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Should Ask.FM.com be closed down?

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Should ASK.FM.com be closed down

Yes
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Only sanctions
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Neutral
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No
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Don't give one
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Should Ask.FM.com be closed down?

Postby Rabopari » Fri Aug 16, 2013 5:19 am

In the UK a couple of weeks ago a girl who was being bullied on ask FM. comitted suicide. which made me ask the question. Should we close it down? This was'nt just a one of thing on ask FM. apparentley it happens everyday on the site which a lot of companies have withdrawn there adverts from in the recent days.

So what do you think?

Personally im neutral in this argumant.

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Postby The Parkus Empire » Fri Aug 16, 2013 5:20 am

Latvia-based ask.fm allows users to post anonymously


Guess you'll have to close down 4chan with it
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Postby The Parkus Empire » Fri Aug 16, 2013 5:21 am

Rabopari wrote:So Personally im neutral in this argumant.

You mean you don't want to give an opinion because you're too lazy to argue you just want to harass anyone who states their opinion with how flawed it is.
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Postby Arglorand » Fri Aug 16, 2013 5:21 am

The Parkus Empire wrote:
Latvia-based ask.fm allows users to post anonymously


Guess you'll have to close down 4chan with it

4chan isn't Latvian. *nods*
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Postby Wolfmanne » Fri Aug 16, 2013 5:21 am

No, it shouldn't be closed down.
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Postby Iuronia » Fri Aug 16, 2013 5:22 am

Rabopari wrote:In the UK a couple of weeks ago a girl who was being bullied on ask FM. comitted suicide. which made me ask the question. Should we close it down? This was'nt just a one of thing on ask FM. apparentley it happens everyday on the site which a lot of companies have withdrawn there adverts from in the recent days.

No because people go online knowing that anyone can be anonymous and utilize such abilities. If they suffer online, they should just close their browser. Simple as that. Don't blame the site on it.
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Postby The Parkus Empire » Fri Aug 16, 2013 5:23 am

Arglorand wrote:
The Parkus Empire wrote:
Guess you'll have to close down 4chan with it

4chan isn't Latvian. *nods*

Well fuck if people are commiting suicide because of it every day, that's quite something
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Postby Rabopari » Fri Aug 16, 2013 5:24 am

Iuronia wrote:
Rabopari wrote:In the UK a couple of weeks ago a girl who was being bullied on ask FM. comitted suicide. which made me ask the question. Should we close it down? This was'nt just a one of thing on ask FM. apparentley it happens everyday on the site which a lot of companies have withdrawn there adverts from in the recent days.

No because people go online knowing that anyone can be anonymous and utilize such abilities. If they suffer online, they should just close their browser. Simple as that. Don't blame the site on it.


i was not saying that. i said at the bottom of the article im neutral in this debate.
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Postby Purpelia » Fri Aug 16, 2013 5:25 am

Anonymity is NOT your enemy. It is your friend. It is NOT what causes people to bully others but what helps people prevent being bullied. If you are anonymous and someone is harassing you than you can just leave and vanish into the cloud without a trace. Hell you can come back to the site with a different name and no one would know it's you. You have become untouchable, unassailable and dare I say unbullyable. The only people who think anonymity is bad are those who are stupid enough to leave personal information about them self on the internet. And the kind of people that ironically would be the only ones vulnerable to serious harassment as they not only leave plenty of munitions for the enemy to use but also allow them self to be tracked. And that is the equivalent of saying all locks are bad because you left the front door open and someone walked in and took your stuff.
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Postby Eganthias » Fri Aug 16, 2013 5:26 am

When a person creates an account, they know the risks.. And if they start getting bullied, then they should delete/stop using the account. Not hard. No need to delete the website all together.

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Postby The Parkus Empire » Fri Aug 16, 2013 5:26 am

Purpelia wrote:Anonymity is NOT your enemy. It is your friend. It is NOT what causes people to bully others

Anonymity on the internet makes people into asses. Really, this isn't obvious?
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Postby Indira » Fri Aug 16, 2013 5:28 am

No. Start there and the trolls go elsewhere and then you get the same groups calling for the shutdown of places like Twitter

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Postby Purpelia » Fri Aug 16, 2013 5:29 am

The Parkus Empire wrote:
Purpelia wrote:Anonymity is NOT your enemy. It is your friend. It is NOT what causes people to bully others

Anonymity on the internet makes people into asses. Really, this isn't obvious?

And it also makes you immune to serious harassment. What are people going to do? Speak badly about me? Because with anonymity that is all they can do.
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Postby Rabopari » Fri Aug 16, 2013 5:30 am

Risottia wrote:I was bullied at school. Close schools!
I received a letter with threats! Ban paper!


if your saying im paranoid. Im not. Im highlighting a issue that has been debated in britain in the past few days
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Postby Frisivisia » Fri Aug 16, 2013 5:31 am

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Postby Purpelia » Fri Aug 16, 2013 5:31 am

Rabopari wrote:
Risottia wrote:I was bullied at school. Close schools!
I received a letter with threats! Ban paper!


if your saying im paranoid. Im not. Im highlighting a issue that has been debated in britain in the past few days

We know. He is not mocking you. He is mocking the idiots who are discussing it and the issue it self.
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Postby Risottia » Fri Aug 16, 2013 5:32 am

Purpelia wrote:
Rabopari wrote:
if your saying im paranoid. Im not. Im highlighting a issue that has been debated in britain in the past few days

We know. He is not mocking you. He is mocking the idiots who are discussing it and the issue it self.

Nah, I'm mocking the OP just to have NS closed down. Ofc. ;)
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Postby The Parkus Empire » Fri Aug 16, 2013 5:32 am

Purpelia wrote:
The Parkus Empire wrote:Anonymity on the internet makes people into asses. Really, this isn't obvious?

And it also makes you immune to serious harassment. What are people going to do? Speak badly about me? Because with anonymity that is all they can do.

Pretty much. But kids shouldn't be using anonymous, anything goes sites because of this reason. They're highly impressionable. Same reason you monitor what movies they watch.
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Postby Frisivisia » Fri Aug 16, 2013 5:32 am

Rabopari wrote:
Risottia wrote:I was bullied at school. Close schools!
I received a letter with threats! Ban paper!


if your saying im paranoid. Im not. Im highlighting a issue that has been debated in britain in the past few days

Then British people ought not debate it because it's really dumb.
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Postby Iuronia » Fri Aug 16, 2013 5:33 am

Rabopari wrote:
Iuronia wrote:No because people go online knowing that anyone can be anonymous and utilize such abilities. If they suffer online, they should just close their browser. Simple as that. Don't blame the site on it.


i was not saying that. i said at the bottom of the article im neutral in this debate.

I replied to the topic's question, not you specifically.

And anonymity doesn't make people into asses, it just shows which people are asses.
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Postby Purpelia » Fri Aug 16, 2013 5:34 am

The Parkus Empire wrote:
Purpelia wrote:And it also makes you immune to serious harassment. What are people going to do? Speak badly about me? Because with anonymity that is all they can do.

Pretty much. But kids shouldn't be using anonymous, anything goes sites because of this reason. They're highly impressionable. Same reason you monitor what movies they watch.

Or you can, you know, raise your own children and not let the internet and TV do it for you.
Purpelia does not reflect my actual world views. In fact, the vast majority of Purpelian cannon is meant to shock and thus deliberately insane. I just like playing with the idea of a country of madmen utterly convinced that everyone else are the barbarians. So play along or not but don't ever think it's for real.



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Postby Imperializt Russia » Fri Aug 16, 2013 5:34 am

Iuronia wrote:
Rabopari wrote:In the UK a couple of weeks ago a girl who was being bullied on ask FM. comitted suicide. which made me ask the question. Should we close it down? This was'nt just a one of thing on ask FM. apparentley it happens everyday on the site which a lot of companies have withdrawn there adverts from in the recent days.

No because people go online knowing that anyone can be anonymous and utilize such abilities. If they suffer online, they should just close their browser. Simple as that. Don't blame the site on it.

The site should, however, be offering some degree of protection to its users.
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Postby Rabopari » Fri Aug 16, 2013 5:34 am

Frisivisia wrote:
Rabopari wrote:
if your saying im paranoid. Im not. Im highlighting a issue that has been debated in britain in the past few days

Then British people ought not debate it because it's really dumb.


and where are you from?
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Postby Wind in the Willows » Fri Aug 16, 2013 5:35 am

Just because an attention-seeking teenager committed suicide? Fuck no.

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