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Rick Santorum: "There Are No Classes In America"

Postby Yumyumsuppertime » Mon Aug 12, 2013 4:01 pm

Basically, since we supposedly allow for social mobility (which we don't do as well as other nations, but that's another issue) class isn't a real thing in America. In other words, there are "middle income" people, but not "middle class" people, a distinction that I can't see appealing to anyone at all, including middle class voters. Also, if you bring up issues of class, you're playing into the hands of the Marxists.

"Don't use the term the other side uses. What does Barack Obama talk about all the time? The middle class," he said at a fundraiser hosted by the Lyon County GOP. "Since when in America do we have classes? Since when in America are people stuck in areas or defined places called a class? That's Marxism talk."

He continued, "When Republicans get up and talk about middle class, we're buying into their rhetoric of dividing America. Stop it. There's no class in America. Call them on it."


This is the "If we pretend that it doesn't exist, then it'll go away as an issue" perspective in American politics, the same one that argues that if we just stop tracking how people of different races are doing in the United States, then race will eventually stop being an issue. It's magical thinking. It's the mindset that causes people to think that if they ignore the suspicious lump rather than going to a doctor, then everything will turn out okay. And, finally, it's one of many reasons that Senator Santorum is utterly unfit to be elected to a local water board, much less a Senate seat or the Oval Office.

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Postby Bottle » Mon Aug 12, 2013 4:02 pm

"Also there are no races or sexes," said the rich white male. "Isn't that nice? Now nobody has to protest anything ever again!"
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Postby Yumyumsuppertime » Mon Aug 12, 2013 4:03 pm

To be fair, considering the Senator's lack of class, I could see how he could make this mistake.

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Postby Bottle » Mon Aug 12, 2013 4:03 pm

Yumyumsuppertime wrote:To be fair, considering the Senator's lack of class, I could see how he could make this mistake.

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Postby Wisconsin9 » Mon Aug 12, 2013 4:03 pm

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Postby Regnum Dominae » Mon Aug 12, 2013 4:04 pm

I think that the left wing often overplays the importance of classes, but to completely deny that classes exist, is equally, if not more, stupid.

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Postby Blasveck » Mon Aug 12, 2013 4:04 pm

"That's Marxist talk"

Does he have any idea of what he's talking about?

And if there are "no classes" then wtf have you been doing this whole time, Mr Santorum?

Talking about the middle class.
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I think this is where he would get spit on by a million+ lower class black/white/latino people if he weren't surrounded by $50,000 per day security.
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Remind me why this ignorant man is in congress?
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That's enough from you, Rick Santorum. Back to the sanitarium.
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Postby Yumyumsuppertime » Mon Aug 12, 2013 4:06 pm

Regnum Dominae wrote:I think that the left wing often overplays the importasnce of classes, but to completely deny that classes exist, is equally, if not more, stuppid.


As someone on that wing, I agree that it's a debatable subject. But, as you stated, it's stupid to deny their existence.

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The Scientific States wrote:Remind me why this ignorant man is in congress?


Because it's Congress, that's why. :P
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The Scientific States wrote:Remind me why this ignorant man is in congress?

He's a former congressman and no longer a senator or representative.
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Postby Llamalandia » Mon Aug 12, 2013 4:07 pm

While I disagree, I should say the great thing about being an american is and always has been you can change classes if your smart, diligent and hardworking enough. Look at all the people who have gone from being poor or middle class to being billionaire almost overnight. Heck, african Americans were slaves in america only 150 years ago and yet now Oprah is the worlds richest woman. Yes Rick their are classes, but no liberals they don't really matter that much because they aren't absolutes. you can start poor and stay or start poor and get rich or start rich and become poor many sometimes you can cycle through these more than in a lifetime.

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The Serbian Empire wrote:
The Scientific States wrote:Remind me why this ignorant man is in congress?

He's a former congressman and no longer a senator or representative.


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Postby Vetalia » Mon Aug 12, 2013 4:07 pm

If anything, class identity and conflict is even more pronounced in the United States than in other developed nations.
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Seems legit.
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Postby Llamalandia » Mon Aug 12, 2013 4:08 pm

The Serbian Empire wrote:That's enough from you, Rick Santorum. Back to the sanitarium.


The Rick Santorum Memorial Sanitarium has a nice ring to it don't ya think. ;)

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Llamalandia wrote:While I disagree, I should say the great thing about being an american is and always has been you can change classes if your smart, diligent and hardworking enough. Look at all the people who have gone from being poor or middle class to being billionaire almost overnight. Heck, african Americans were slaves in america only 150 years ago and yet now Oprah is the worlds richest woman. Yes Rick their are classes, but no liberals they don't really matter that much because they aren't absolutes. you can start poor and stay or start poor and get rich or start rich and become poor many sometimes you can cycle through these more than in a lifetime.


You can go from poor to rich. But it's unlikely and some people simply can't do it.
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Divair wrote:Seems legit.
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I thought China's was higher than that...
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Postby Wisconsin9 » Mon Aug 12, 2013 4:09 pm

Llamalandia wrote:While I disagree, I should say the great thing about being an american is and always has been you can change classes if your smart, diligent and hardworking enough. Look at all the people who have gone from being poor or middle class to being billionaire almost overnight. Heck, african Americans were slaves in america only 150 years ago and yet now Oprah is the worlds richest woman. Yes Rick their are classes, but no liberals they don't really matter that much because they aren't absolutes. you can start poor and stay or start poor and get rich or start rich and become poor many sometimes you can cycle through these more than in a lifetime.

For every genuine rags-to-riches story, there's literally hundreds if not thousands of people who only got where they are because daddy kicked the bucket and left them great-grandpa's cash.
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Postby Lunatic Goofballs » Mon Aug 12, 2013 4:09 pm

So all these times Rick Santorum talked about 'Class Warfare', what sort of classes do you think he meant? Home economics and music appreciation?
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Postby The Serbian Empire » Mon Aug 12, 2013 4:09 pm

Vetalia wrote:If anything, class identity and conflict is even more pronounced in the United States than in other developed nations.

The media is the problem however as everyone wants to be identified as the middle even when they're rich.
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