EnragedMaldivians wrote:Azurand wrote:Whoa, whoa, calm down for a moment, Brother. Don't get angry only because that heretic, narrow-minded apostate!
Kharijites and Qur'anists are, well, ideologically different. As long as a Caliph have the same thought, or, coming from their group, they would accept it, but if not, they wouldn't. While the Qur'anists only believe the Qur'an as the relevant source text of Islam, and refuse to acknowledged any hadith. Far difference, actually. Not mean that I like both.
That's pretty much what I said. Kharijites rebelled against Khalifa Ali bin Talib not because they disagreed with the institution of the Caliph but because Ali was acting un-Islamically because he seemed too willing to come to terms with the rebel Mua'wiyya (who would later go on to become the first Caliph of the Umayyad dynasty), even if it was only a temporary expedient. But in principle they were not against the institution of a Caliphate (it's just that, to iterate, they no longer accepted the Caliphate of Ali and felt justified in rebelling against a ruler not properly upholding or defending Islam).
So our good friend Great Islamic Empire's ridiculous claim that the Quranists are Kharijites, on the basis that Kharijites reject external religious authority, is factually incorrect. Thank you for taking the time to educate your somewhat more irritable brother.
Also, just call me "narrow-minded apostate". Adding heretical is a bit verbose, and inaccurate don't you think? I don't mind either way if you insist though, and I'm not offended. In fact, I quite like you; you're more fun.
I was under the assumption that Kharijites merely believed that to be Caliph/imam all you needed was to be pious, and not of the same tribe or descendant of Mohamed.
