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To which branch of Islam do you belong?

Sunni
164
41%
Shia
53
13%
Ibadi
15
4%
Ahmadiyya
10
2%
Sufi
31
8%
Nondenominational
47
12%
Other
84
21%
 
Total votes : 404

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Seljuq Kyiv
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Postby Seljuq Kyiv » Sat Jan 11, 2014 10:24 pm

Taoju wrote:
Seljuq Kyiv wrote:
Aye. The government has done nothing to stop alcohol or smoking amongst Muslims here. Meanwhile we are still yapping about Christians using the word Allah (which translates to THE GOD — a semantics failure as it refers to a singular indivisible Being in contrast to the Trinity, but not exactly threatening the religion, etc.) and the smallest things.

And Malaysia is extremely diverse so~

Good luck imposing Shariah and driving all the Chinese or Hindu business owners away :/


Again, Shari'a only applies to Muslims, and I refer to alcohol or smoking amongst Muslims.

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Postby Nightkill the Emperor » Sat Jan 11, 2014 10:28 pm

Glorious Wonderland wrote:happy birthday Muhammad, old chap! may peace be always upon to you!

to celebrate your birthday I'm going to finish my the satanic verses, damn book like a bollywood movie with hilarious wordmixing, it's easy to know the writer is an Indian. plus a sirah.

Pakistani cinema had a calm and measured reaction to that book.
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Postby Prospect Landings » Sat Jan 11, 2014 10:31 pm

Nightkill the Emperor wrote:
Glorious Wonderland wrote:happy birthday Muhammad, old chap! may peace be always upon to you!

to celebrate your birthday I'm going to finish my the satanic verses, damn book like a bollywood movie with hilarious wordmixing, it's easy to know the writer is an Indian. plus a sirah.

Pakistani cinema had a calm and measured reaction to that book.


haha, my goodness:

Salman Rushdie, played by Afzaal Ahmad, is portrayed in the film as a sadistic criminal mastermind, working for an international organization devoted to destroying Islam (as the Muslim faith is an obstacle to his wishes of building casinos, nightclubs and brothels around the world). He is depicted as hiding in the Philippines, guarded by a private army led by an Israeli general.

EDIT: Everyone knows Rushdie's private army is led by an Ahmadiyya.
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Postby Seljuq Kyiv » Sat Jan 11, 2014 10:33 pm

Nightkill the Emperor wrote:
Glorious Wonderland wrote:happy birthday Muhammad, old chap! may peace be always upon to you!

to celebrate your birthday I'm going to finish my the satanic verses, damn book like a bollywood movie with hilarious wordmixing, it's easy to know the writer is an Indian. plus a sirah.

Pakistani cinema had a calm and measured reaction to that book.


such heretical
many blasphemous
very flying quran
so israel
wow

But seriously, it should be billed as comedy rather than action.

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Postby Utceforp » Sat Jan 11, 2014 10:36 pm

Seljuq Kyiv wrote:


such heretical
many blasphemous
very flying quran
so israel
wow

But seriously, it should be billed as comedy rather than action.

I wonder what would happen if somebody dubbed it in English, edited some of the dialogue and added a laugh track and release it in the US. I'm not saying it will be successful, I'm not saying it should be done, I'm just curious to see what would happen.
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Postby Prospect Landings » Sat Jan 11, 2014 10:36 pm

Islam/Muslim Discussion Thread: "All the biggest crooks in the world have gather here today to destroy Islam."
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Postby Nightkill the Emperor » Sat Jan 11, 2014 10:37 pm

Utceforp wrote:
Seljuq Kyiv wrote:
such heretical
many blasphemous
very flying quran
so israel
wow

But seriously, it should be billed as comedy rather than action.

I wonder what would happen if somebody dubbed it in English, edited some of the dialogue and added a laugh track and release it in the US. I'm not saying it will be successful, I'm not saying it should be done, I'm just curious to see what would happen.

I actually sat down and watched the film in the original Urdu (I can understand it well since the spoken form is virtually the same as Hindi). It's worth seeing because it is extremely funny.
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Postby Seljuq Kyiv » Sat Jan 11, 2014 10:41 pm

Prospect Landings wrote:Islam/Muslim Discussion Thread: "All the biggest crooks in the world The Rothschilds have gather here today to destroy Islam."


FTFY

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Postby Prospect Landings » Sat Jan 11, 2014 10:43 pm

There is a musical cowboy.
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Postby Nightkill the Emperor » Sat Jan 11, 2014 10:43 pm

Prospect Landings wrote:There is a musical cowboy.

You're watching the film?
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Postby Prospect Landings » Sat Jan 11, 2014 10:50 pm

Nightkill the Emperor wrote:
Prospect Landings wrote:There is a musical cowboy.

You're watching the film?


Pakistan Zindabad
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Postby Nightkill the Emperor » Sat Jan 11, 2014 10:50 pm

Prospect Landings wrote:
Nightkill the Emperor wrote:You're watching the film?


Pakistan Zindabad

Hindustan Zindabad. ;)
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The balkens wrote:
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Postby Prospect Landings » Sat Jan 11, 2014 10:52 pm

Nightkill the Emperor wrote:
Prospect Landings wrote:
Pakistan Zindabad

Hindustan Zindabad. ;)


thank you for introducing this into the discussion :)
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Postby Nightkill the Emperor » Sat Jan 11, 2014 10:52 pm

Prospect Landings wrote:
Nightkill the Emperor wrote:Hindustan Zindabad. ;)


thank you for introducing this into the discussion :)

No problem. That film is a work of art.

Are you Pakistani?
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Monfrox wrote:
The balkens wrote:
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Postby Prospect Landings » Sat Jan 11, 2014 10:55 pm

Nightkill the Emperor wrote:
Prospect Landings wrote:
thank you for introducing this into the discussion :)

No problem. That film is a work of art.

Are you Pakistani?


A bit further eastern Asian than that. Filipino.
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Postby Nightkill the Emperor » Sat Jan 11, 2014 10:56 pm

Prospect Landings wrote:
Nightkill the Emperor wrote:No problem. That film is a work of art.

Are you Pakistani?


A bit further eastern Asian than that. Filipino.

Heh, Rushdie's hiding out in your country.
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Swith: It's because you're so awesome. God himself refreshes the screen before he types just to see if Nightkill has written anything while he was off somewhere else.

Monfrox wrote:
The balkens wrote:
# went there....

It's Nightkill. He's been there so long he rents out rooms to other people at a flat rate, but demands cash up front.

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Postby Prospect Landings » Sat Jan 11, 2014 11:03 pm

Nightkill the Emperor wrote:
Prospect Landings wrote:
A bit further eastern Asian than that. Filipino.

Heh, Rushdie's hiding out in your country.


This is actually very similar to one of my favorite movies: The Black Gestapo.
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Postby Southern Arkansas » Sat Jan 11, 2014 11:04 pm

Curious what y'all think.


Marriage or School. Which first?
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Postby Prospect Landings » Sat Jan 11, 2014 11:30 pm

From a religious standpoint International Guerrillas is complete nonsense. The Word of God literally manifests as fire from the heavens, an utter disregard from Islam's rejection of Divine Providence. It is more clearly understood through the prism of a people attempting to regain their 'face' while under the pressure of emasculating capitalistic globalization. When the characters wish to kill Salman Rushdie, what they really want is to kill the idea of the ideological traitor. A Pakistan who has forsook his culture, his nation, his God, for another. There's a reason he wears a Western business suit.
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Postby Nightkill the Emperor » Sat Jan 11, 2014 11:41 pm

Prospect Landings wrote:From a religious standpoint International Guerrillas is complete nonsense. The Word of God literally manifests as fire from the heavens, an utter disregard from Islam's rejection of Divine Providence. It is more clearly understood through the prism of a people attempting to regain their 'face' while under the pressure of emasculating capitalistic globalization. When the characters wish to kill Salman Rushdie, what they really want is to kill the idea of the ideological traitor. A Pakistan who has forsook his culture, his nation, his God, for another. There's a reason he wears a Western business suit.

I'd give it hardly a moment's thought other than comedy myself.
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Monfrox wrote:
The balkens wrote:
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Postby Seljuq Kyiv » Sun Jan 12, 2014 12:20 am

Southern Arkansas wrote:Curious what y'all think.


Marriage or School. Which first?


School first, so that you can be educated parents with educated perspectives equipped to nurture soon-to-be-educated children.

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Postby Kalosia » Sun Jan 12, 2014 12:34 am

Taoju wrote:
Absurrania wrote:
Islamically, it is not supposed to be celebrated. However, that is between you and Allah, not you and me. But my earlier comment referred to the celebration of Prophet Muhammed's (pbuh) birthday, although we don't really know when he was born, as that would quickly lead to some sort of worship towards him.

Explain why Malaysia and Brunei, presumably Islamic nations, celebrate it anyways?

My teacher told me the other day, if I'm not mistaken, that it was so that he would not be forgotten in time. It's to be celebrated at the 12th of the current Islamic month, which would be Tuesday.
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Postby Seljuq Kyiv » Sun Jan 12, 2014 1:54 am

Kalosia wrote:
Taoju wrote:Explain why Malaysia and Brunei, presumably Islamic nations, celebrate it anyways?

My teacher told me the other day, if I'm not mistaken, that it was so that he would not be forgotten in time. It's to be celebrated at the 12th of the current Islamic month, which would be Tuesday.


But Muhammad was born on Monday...

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Postby DogDoo 7 » Sun Jan 12, 2014 2:01 am

Kemalist wrote:
DogDoo 7 wrote:Happy birthday muhammed! i'll drink a toast to you, old friend.


Mohammad was a cool guy. He was the Che Guevara of his period.

so the Quran is basically 'The Camel Diaries?'
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Postby Seljuq Kyiv » Sun Jan 12, 2014 2:09 am

Kemalist wrote:
DogDoo 7 wrote:Happy birthday muhammed! i'll drink a toast to you, old friend.


Mohammad was a cool guy. He was the Che Guevara of his period.


Hardly. But he did lead a revolution against the bourgeois oppressors long before Marx and Engels' writings.

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