Islam/Muslim Discussion Thread

[Mahdistan]

https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=606329

Any Muslims interested, TG your sect and Madhhab. No particular reason for this, just a survey.

Ooh, Nice.

For Sufis, do you say your madhab and your Sufi Order?

Yeah, what I think I'll do though is just remove the 'Sufi' sections and just have the orders be added on at the end if the one answering is Sufi.

[Ghuraba Al-Khorusani]

Once Imam Abu Hanifa(RA) was walking and wearing nice clothing as he was a good merchant, a Jew approached him and said "I thought this world was a prison for Muslims!?" Imam Abu Hanifa(RA) replied "If this is what Allah(SWT) gives us in prison, just imagine what he'll give us in paradise"
Mashallah

[Vistulange]

How is it an exaggeration?

Because there isn't any in Turkey.

Bullshit. Half of my mothers' side is culturally Bektâşi or Alevi. They are a minority, yes, but saying there isn't any in Turkey is pretty much saying that there aren't any blacks in the United States.

Bektâşis were also heavily repressed following the violent end of the Janissary Corps in the Ottoman Empire, which were predominantly Bektâşi themselves.

[Brunei Darussalam and Labuan]

Hello,any Malays here?

[Jute]

What do you people think about the implementation of "Sharia" law in Brunei (i.e. stoning for adultery, homosexuality and apostasy, among other things)?

[North Arkana]

What do you people think about the implementation of "Sharia" law in Brunei (i.e. stoning for adultery, homosexuality and apostasy, among other things)?

I can guess what Ghuraba has to say about it.

[The Nuclear Fist]

What do you people think about the implementation of "Sharia" law in Brunei (i.e. stoning for adultery, homosexuality and apostasy, among other things)?

Given the notorious corruption of the sultan of Brunei and the repression inherent to Sharia law, my guess is he and his family will still engage in drug and hooker parties while the common prole gets to be a Pious Muslim^TM.

[Novus America]

What do you people think about the implementation of "Sharia" law in Brunei (i.e. stoning for adultery, homosexuality and apostasy, among other things)?

Given the notorious corruption of the sultan of Brunei and the repression inherent to Sharia law, my guess is he and his family will still engage in drug and hooker parties while the common prole gets to be a Pious Muslim^TM.

Yup. Just like Saudi Arabia.

[Ghuraba Al-Khorusani]

What do you people think about the implementation of "Sharia" law in Brunei (i.e. stoning for adultery, homosexuality and apostasy, among other things)?

It's the needed to establish Islam properly, I mean today people don't even recite the Quran correctly.

[Jute]

What do you people think about the implementation of "Sharia" law in Brunei (i.e. stoning for adultery, homosexuality and apostasy, among other things)?

It's the needed to establish Islam properly, I mean today people don't even recite the Quran correctly.

How does that follow? Also, isn't it odd to say the least to have the same penalty for adultery and murder?

[North Arkana]

It's the needed to establish Islam properly, I mean today people don't even recite the Quran correctly.

How does that follow? Also, isn't it odd to say the least to have the same penalty for adultery and murder?

You're attempting to reason with a supporter of al-Qaeda. Think about that for a moment.

[The Archregimancy]

What do you people think about the implementation of "Sharia" law in Brunei (i.e. stoning for adultery, homosexuality and apostasy, among other things)?

Given the notorious corruption of the sultan of Brunei and the repression inherent to Sharia law, my guess is he and his family will still engage in drug and hooker parties while the common prole gets to be a Pious Muslim^TM.

The Sultan himself perhaps not; his fondness for gold and luxury cars aside, he's never been caught up in any scandals involving sex or drugs.

His brother Jefri 'lick him clean' Bolkiah, absolutely.

It tends to be the collateral family members who are the problem in these cases rather than the ruler himself; examples abound across the remaining monarchies of the Islamic world. Among the actual rulers, few want a direct repeat of Farouk.

[Vistulange]

Given the notorious corruption of the sultan of Brunei and the repression inherent to Sharia law, my guess is he and his family will still engage in drug and hooker parties while the common prole gets to be a Pious Muslim^TM.

The Sultan himself perhaps not; his fondness for gold and luxury cars aside, he's never been caught up in any scandals involving sex or drugs.

His brother Jefri 'lick him clean' Bolkiah, absolutely.

It tends to be the collateral family members who are the problem in these cases rather than the ruler himself; examples abound across the remaining monarchies of the Islamic world. Among the actual rulers, few want a direct repeat of Farouk.

What happened to King Farouk? The Wikipedia article on him isn't too detailed.

[Ghuraba Al-Khorusani]

Given the notorious corruption of the sultan of Brunei and the repression inherent to Sharia law, my guess is he and his family will still engage in drug and hooker parties while the common prole gets to be a Pious Muslim^TM.

The Sultan himself perhaps not; his fondness for gold and luxury cars aside, he's never been caught up in any scandals involving sex or drugs.

His brother Jefri 'lick him clean' Bolkiah, absolutely.

It tends to be the collateral family members who are the problem in these cases rather than the ruler himself; examples abound across the remaining monarchies of the Islamic world. Among the actual rulers, few want a direct repeat of Farouk.

Like I posted yesterday
Once Imam Abu Hanifa(RA) was walking and wearing nice clothing as he was a good merchant, a Jew approached him and said "I thought this world was a prison for Muslims!?" Imam Abu Hanifa(RA) replied "If this is what Allah(SWT) gives us in prison, just imagine what he'll give us in paradise"

[The Nuclear Fist]

Given the notorious corruption of the sultan of Brunei and the repression inherent to Sharia law, my guess is he and his family will still engage in drug and hooker parties while the common prole gets to be a Pious Muslim^TM.

Yup. Just like Saudi Arabia.

The best part about the Saudi cunt government is that one of their princes got caught having a gay coke party in the US.

[The Nuclear Fist]

The Sultan himself perhaps not; his fondness for gold and luxury cars aside, he's never been caught up in any scandals involving sex or drugs.

His brother Jefri 'lick him clean' Bolkiah, absolutely.

It tends to be the collateral family members who are the problem in these cases rather than the ruler himself; examples abound across the remaining monarchies of the Islamic world. Among the actual rulers, few want a direct repeat of Farouk.

Like I posted yesterday
Once Imam Abu Hanifa(RA) was walking and wearing nice clothing as he was a good merchant, a Jew approached him and said "I thought this world was a prison for Muslims!?" Imam Abu Hanifa(RA) replied "If this is what Allah(SWT) gives us in prison, just imagine what he'll give us in paradise"

Tl;dr "It's okay for me to eat only imported caviar and own 500 gold ferraris while my people lack basic amenities and slavery remains common because heaven"

[Novus America]

Yup. Just like Saudi Arabia.

The best part about the Saudi cunt government is that one of their princes got caught having a gay coke party in the US.

Of course. But more than just one. The Saudi princes are all about wild Vegas sex parties, hookers and blow. Though the hookers are usually but certainly not exclusively women

[Ghuraba Al-Khorusani]

This slander of the Saudi house is unbelievable

[Novus America]

This slander of the Saudi house is unbelievable

I think you mean libel. Slander is spoken. Libel is written.
So accuse us of libel. Get your legal terms right. Anyways truth is an absolute defense against charges of libel.
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2 ... yboys.html
http://listverse.com/2015/06/23/10-sord ... al-family/
http://news.malaysianreview.com/3394/wi ... x-parties/
Note the last source is from Muslim Malaysian.

You are too brainwashed by Saudi propaganda though. Do you know the only difference between an ordinary Wahhabi and ISIS? Faith in the corrupt Saudis. ISIS believe the same religious things you do, but have seen the truth about the house of Saud.

Though they too are corrupt as hell. But extremism and corruption go together like peanut butter and jelly.

[Novus America]

Yes, men of the people indeed...
http://www.theheraldng.com/sex-scandal- ... thousands/

[Ghuraba Al-Khorusani]

ISIS kills real Muslims and is just evil, in Islam we judge by action as only Allah(SWT) knows true intention and sees what we don't. I see slaughter of Islamic heros and creating a bad image of Islam by them.

[Jochistan]

What do you people think about the implementation of "Sharia" law in Brunei (i.e. stoning for adultery, homosexuality and apostasy, among other things)?

As with areas of Pakistan and Nigeria, if you look at the Shari'ah court system in Brunei. They have it all wrong.

The amount of wirnesses is incorrect, The witnesses they do use are unqualified bringing no evidence to prove themselves, difference of scholarly opinion is never adressed when a ruling is brought up, customs are not judged appropriately, repentence is almost never recognized, testimony is often brought forth by bribery...it's an absolute mess. Basically they adhere to a mix of tribal custom, colonial law, Salafi dogma, The Sultan's whims, and cherrypicked instances from Classical Jurisprudence for their system of Shari'ah.

[Jochistan]

Not that I actually support death for Adultery or whatever.

But why do people have so much sympathy for adulterers in cases like this, yet are totally cool with tye concept of some dude beats up who he found his wife sleeping with and throws him out of his house?

Would anyone really be surprised if that happened? That's probably what anyone would do in such a situation.

[Novus America]

ISIS kills real Muslims and is just evil, in Islam we judge by action as only Allah(SWT) knows true intention and sees what we don't. I see slaughter of Islamic heros and creating a bad image of Islam by them.

Salafis kill Muslims too. Other Salfis have killed more Muslims than ISIS.

[Ghuraba Al-Khorusani]

ISIS kills real Muslims and is just evil, in Islam we judge by action as only Allah(SWT) knows true intention and sees what we don't. I see slaughter of Islamic heros and creating a bad image of Islam by them.

Salafis kill Muslims too. Other Salfis have killed more Muslims than ISIS.

No they don't, Abdul Wahab(RA) only fought apostates.