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To which branch of Islam do you belong?

Sunni
164
41%
Shia
53
13%
Ibadi
15
4%
Ahmadiyya
10
2%
Sufi
31
8%
Nondenominational
47
12%
Other
84
21%
 
Total votes : 404

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Postby Streetgrind » Tue Mar 04, 2014 6:03 pm

Great German States wrote:
Streetgrind wrote:How is a theocratic government based on texts predating nazism by more than a millennia going to take influence from nazism?

Muslims are often fascist and anti-Semitic.

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Menassa wrote:Why?

You know, I try not to make jokes about Jewish over-sensitivity. But literally one person said they laughed at an antisemitic poster and "Menassa is summoned!"

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Postby Aurulence » Tue Mar 04, 2014 6:05 pm

Great German States wrote:
Streetgrind wrote:How is a theocratic government based on texts predating nazism by more than a millennia going to take influence from nazism?

Muslims are often fascist and anti-Semitic.


Do you have a source for this? While I know a lot of Muslims who tend to side with Palestine on the whole Israel debacle, they're certainly not anti-Semitic...or fascist for that matter...
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Postby Streetgrind » Tue Mar 04, 2014 6:41 pm

Aurulence wrote:
Great German States wrote:Muslims are often fascist and anti-Semitic.


Do you have a source for this? While I know a lot of Muslims who tend to side with Palestine on the whole Israel debacle, they're certainly not anti-Semitic...or fascist for that matter...

Do note that any evidence you (GGS) might bring is correlational until you manage to find probable cause. Until then, you're wrong.
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Menassa wrote:Why?

You know, I try not to make jokes about Jewish over-sensitivity. But literally one person said they laughed at an antisemitic poster and "Menassa is summoned!"

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Postby Great German States » Tue Mar 04, 2014 7:09 pm

Aurulence wrote:
Great German States wrote:Muslims are often fascist and anti-Semitic.


Do you have a source for this? While I know a lot of Muslims who tend to side with Palestine on the whole Israel debacle, they're certainly not anti-Semitic...or fascist for that matter...

Look at this photo:Image

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Postby Streetgrind » Tue Mar 04, 2014 7:10 pm

Great German States wrote:
Aurulence wrote:
Do you have a source for this? While I know a lot of Muslims who tend to side with Palestine on the whole Israel debacle, they're certainly not anti-Semitic...or fascist for that matter...

Look at this photo:Image

Still correlational.
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Menassa wrote:Why?

You know, I try not to make jokes about Jewish over-sensitivity. But literally one person said they laughed at an antisemitic poster and "Menassa is summoned!"

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Postby Bundabunda » Tue Mar 04, 2014 7:12 pm

And a picture isn't a source and doesn't actually give statistics and whatnot.
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Postby Streetgrind » Tue Mar 04, 2014 7:17 pm

Bundabunda wrote:And a picture isn't a source and doesn't actually give statistics and whatnot.

This. Also, where did that picture come from?
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Menassa wrote:Why?

You know, I try not to make jokes about Jewish over-sensitivity. But literally one person said they laughed at an antisemitic poster and "Menassa is summoned!"

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Postby Sun Wukong » Tue Mar 04, 2014 7:19 pm

Great German States wrote:
Aurulence wrote:
Do you have a source for this? While I know a lot of Muslims who tend to side with Palestine on the whole Israel debacle, they're certainly not anti-Semitic...or fascist for that matter...

Look at this photo:Image

You're right. I certainly couldn't find a photo of two antisemitic Catholics anywhere.
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Postby Great German States » Tue Mar 04, 2014 7:20 pm

Streetgrind wrote:
Bundabunda wrote:And a picture isn't a source and doesn't actually give statistics and whatnot.

This. Also, where did that picture come from?

Middle-East-Info.org

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Postby Streetgrind » Tue Mar 04, 2014 7:21 pm

Great German States wrote:
Streetgrind wrote:This. Also, where did that picture come from?

Middle-East-Info.org

Could you link that photo, please?

Explain to us why that photo proves that the majority of Muslims are anti Semitic nazis.
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Menassa wrote:Why?

You know, I try not to make jokes about Jewish over-sensitivity. But literally one person said they laughed at an antisemitic poster and "Menassa is summoned!"

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Postby Stagnant Axon Terminal » Tue Mar 04, 2014 7:25 pm

Great German States wrote:
Aurulence wrote:
Do you have a source for this? While I know a lot of Muslims who tend to side with Palestine on the whole Israel debacle, they're certainly not anti-Semitic...or fascist for that matter...

Look at this photo:Image

Have you not realized yes that THAT ISN'T A SOURCE
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Postby Malisin » Tue Mar 04, 2014 7:41 pm

Great German States wrote:
Aurulence wrote:
Do you have a source for this? While I know a lot of Muslims who tend to side with Palestine on the whole Israel debacle, they're certainly not anti-Semitic...or fascist for that matter...

Look at this photo:Image


"Lock up your kids, the rabbis are everywhere!"


Laughed harder than I should have.

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Postby Menassa » Tue Mar 04, 2014 7:43 pm

Malisin wrote:
Great German States wrote:Look at this photo:Image


"Lock up your kids, the rabbis are everywhere!"


Laughed harder than I should have.

Why?
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Postby Sun Wukong » Tue Mar 04, 2014 7:45 pm

Menassa wrote:
Malisin wrote:
"Lock up your kids, the rabbis are everywhere!"


Laughed harder than I should have.

Why?

You know, I try not to make jokes about Jewish over-sensitivity. But literally one person said they laughed at an antisemitic poster and "Menassa is summoned!"
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Postby Menassa » Tue Mar 04, 2014 7:47 pm

Sun Wukong wrote:
Menassa wrote:Why?

You know, I try not to make jokes about Jewish over-sensitivity. But literally one person said they laughed at an antisemitic poster and "Menassa is summoned!"

I may or may not frequently type in 'Rabbi' into the search on the forums....
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"Imagine of a bunch of Zulu tribesmen told Congress how to read the Constitution, that's how it feels to a Jew when you tell us how to read our bible"
"God said: you must teach, as I taught, without a fee."
"Against your will you are formed, against your will you are born, against your will you live, against your will you die, and against your will you are destined to give a judgement and accounting before the king, king of all kings..."

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Postby Streetgrind » Tue Mar 04, 2014 7:48 pm

Sun Wukong wrote:
Menassa wrote:Why?

You know, I try not to make jokes about Jewish over-sensitivity. But literally one person said they laughed at an antisemitic poster and "Menassa is summoned!"

Sig'd.
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Sun Wukong wrote:
Menassa wrote:Why?

You know, I try not to make jokes about Jewish over-sensitivity. But literally one person said they laughed at an antisemitic poster and "Menassa is summoned!"

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Postby Menassa » Tue Mar 04, 2014 7:49 pm

Streetgrind wrote:
Sun Wukong wrote:You know, I try not to make jokes about Jewish over-sensitivity. But literally one person said they laughed at an antisemitic poster and "Menassa is summoned!"

Sig'd.

After 3 years, I'm finally in someone's signature.

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"A missionary uses the Bible like a drunk uses a lamppost, not so much for illumination, but for support"
"Imagine of a bunch of Zulu tribesmen told Congress how to read the Constitution, that's how it feels to a Jew when you tell us how to read our bible"
"God said: you must teach, as I taught, without a fee."
"Against your will you are formed, against your will you are born, against your will you live, against your will you die, and against your will you are destined to give a judgement and accounting before the king, king of all kings..."

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Postby Bundabunda » Tue Mar 04, 2014 7:58 pm

http://www.middle-east-info.org/

I think I've found the site. Hilarious stuff, some of this.

The freest Arabs and Muslims in the Middle East live in Israel. The Israeli government is the only one in the Middle East that is elected by free citizens -- including Arabs and Muslims.


There's careful avoidance of the word "Palestinian" here. Most Palestinians aren't citizens of Israel and don't vote in elections. Even kids in Gaza turn down IDF candy.
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Postby Aurulence » Tue Mar 04, 2014 8:02 pm

Stagnant Axon Terminal wrote:
Great German States wrote:Look at this photo:(Image)

Have you not realized yes that THAT ISN'T A SOURCE


Funny how this is just a random photo and not a statistical study of Anti-Semite attitudes among Muslim populations. I could just as easily pull up a picture from some pro-life rally with misspelled signs and make the generalization that Republicans are unable to spell. :T

Actually on second thought how do you even know that those guys are actually Muslim? And there are only two of them to begin with. Something is obviously fishy.
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Postby Bundabunda » Tue Mar 04, 2014 8:06 pm

To be fair to OP, you can see a faint hand on the right corner. Though we have no idea what it says. It could be an ad for hot dogs or demands for jihad.
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Postby Malisin » Tue Mar 04, 2014 8:13 pm

Menassa wrote:
Malisin wrote:
"Lock up your kids, the rabbis are everywhere!"


Laughed harder than I should have.

Why?


Because it's ridiculously stupid.

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Postby Menassa » Tue Mar 04, 2014 8:15 pm

Malisin wrote:
Menassa wrote:Why?


Because it's ridiculously stupid.

But I mean, with 15 million Jews... they are... everywhere...
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"Imagine of a bunch of Zulu tribesmen told Congress how to read the Constitution, that's how it feels to a Jew when you tell us how to read our bible"
"God said: you must teach, as I taught, without a fee."
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Postby Great German States » Tue Mar 04, 2014 8:19 pm

Aurulence wrote:
Stagnant Axon Terminal wrote:Have you not realized yes that THAT ISN'T A SOURCE


Funny how this is just a random photo and not a statistical study of Anti-Semite attitudes among Muslim populations. I could just as easily pull up a picture from some pro-life rally with misspelled signs and make the generalization that Republicans are unable to spell. :T

Actually on second thought how do you even know that those guys are actually Muslim? And there are only two of them to begin with. Something is obviously fishy.

One has a veil on them.

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Postby The Scientific States » Tue Mar 04, 2014 8:19 pm

Great German States wrote:
Aurulence wrote:
Funny how this is just a random photo and not a statistical study of Anti-Semite attitudes among Muslim populations. I could just as easily pull up a picture from some pro-life rally with misspelled signs and make the generalization that Republicans are unable to spell. :T

Actually on second thought how do you even know that those guys are actually Muslim? And there are only two of them to begin with. Something is obviously fishy.

One has a veil on them.


So, one Muslim anti Semite means all Muslims are anti Semites? Fail argument.
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Postby Streetgrind » Tue Mar 04, 2014 8:20 pm

Great German States wrote:
Aurulence wrote:
Funny how this is just a random photo and not a statistical study of Anti-Semite attitudes among Muslim populations. I could just as easily pull up a picture from some pro-life rally with misspelled signs and make the generalization that Republicans are unable to spell. :T

Actually on second thought how do you even know that those guys are actually Muslim? And there are only two of them to begin with. Something is obviously fishy.

One has a veil on them.

Yeah, and so did my mother at her wedding but that doesn't mean she's Muslim.

Besides, if anyone is wearing a veil in Islam, it's the women
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You know, I try not to make jokes about Jewish over-sensitivity. But literally one person said they laughed at an antisemitic poster and "Menassa is summoned!"

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