Richard Dawkins: Islam is Bad

[Frisivisia]

I'm not some guy on a mission to destroy religion by "GENOCIDING ALL OF TEH STOPID RUHLIJUSES", I just think we'd be better off without it.

I'm not some girl on a mission to destroy homosexuals by "GENOCIDING ALL OF TEH STOPID GAYZZZ", I just think we'd be better off without it.

Come the fuck on.

Religion is a choice.

Come the fuck on.

I'm not going to be branded a bigot because you understand that it's an effective way of arguing.

"MUHSAWJUNIST"

[Orcoa]

So you think people of faith are uneducated? or have reason?

That's funny, I'm going to college right now and I don't have the sudden desire to leave my religion.

So...how are you going to make people into atheists without forcing them?

Because I'm sure that education is not the answer you are looking for joe

I'm not some guy on a mission to destroy religion by "GENOCIDING ALL OF TEH STOPID RUHLIJUSES", I just think we'd be better off without it.

Uh huh

Yeah you did not answer my question

How are you going to make people who are religious into atheists?

Answer my goddamn question because ever since I been on this fucking website I've never got a answer for this question.

[Nationalist State of Knox]

I'm not actually arguing that though. I'm saying there are empirically verifiable differences in the brains of the religious and the brains of the not.

Could you source that?

[New Libertarian States]

And, where, pray tell, is he equating religion to Nazism?
He's saying that National Socialism isn't good, I'm not seeing him equate it to Religion.

Follow the quote tree?

I said that functionally banning religion isn't a good thing. He responded with, "we functionally ban nazism", thereby linking the two.

He's saying they're both bad, and have lead to some bad things, he's not saying "Religion=Nazism."

[Luveria]

I'm not some girl on a mission to destroy homosexuals by "GENOCIDING ALL OF TEH STOPID GAYZZZ", I just think we'd be better off without it.

Come the fuck on.

Religion is a choice.

Come the fuck on.

I'm not going to be branded a bigot because you understand that it's an effective way of arguing.

"MUHSAWJUNIST"

It can be a choice.

You are aware people can be indoctrinated into a religion from a young age, aren't you?

[Nanatsu no Tsuki]

Seitojinn:
http://cubiksrube.wordpress.com/2008/08 ... ef-system/

Allow me to note that I do not agree with what is purported in this blog. I'm just linking to it to evidence my claim that some people consider atheism a belief system.

Also, allow me to note that this perhaps is due to a misunderstanding of the meaning of the word 'belief'.

[Frisivisia]

I think Biden is saying that they're both bad, but not equally bad.

I'm sure he intended it like that.

Unfortunately, that's not what we said, and even given historical context that doesn't mean much given that Nazism is probably the only ideology that gets rejected.

Then why are you focusing on what the words are rather than how they were intended? It's almost like you're some religious zealot looking for something in some holy book that will justify bombing something. What matters is fucking intent.

[The Steel Magnolia]

Could you source that?

Uh, give me a few hours. It was in the other religion thread, I'll have to go hunting for it.

[Frisivisia]

Religion is a choice.

Come the fuck on.

I'm not going to be branded a bigot because you understand that it's an effective way of arguing.

"MUHSAWJUNIST"

It can be a choice.

You are aware people can be indoctrinated into a religion from a young age, aren't you?

Yeah, that's a bad practice.

[Blasveck]

I think Biden is saying that they're both bad, but not equally bad.

I'm sure he intended it like that.

Unfortunately, that's not what we said, and even given historical context that doesn't mean much given that Nazism is probably the only ideology that gets rejected.

What do you mean "that's not what he said"?

I don't see anywhere there that equates Nazism with religion.

All he's saying is that they are bad.

I don't see anything indicating that they are equally bad.

[The Steel Magnolia]

Follow the quote tree?

I said that functionally banning religion isn't a good thing. He responded with, "we functionally ban nazism", thereby linking the two.

He's saying they're both bad, and have lead to some bad things, he's not saying "Religion=Nazism."

I'm sure he meant it that way.

Except, of course, when you say "well banning this isn't bad because we ban nazism" you're literally saying it's on the same level as nazism.

[Torcularis Septentrionalis]

Hence the reason why I'm not making that claim. It was an idle thought.

And interesting one, I must admit. But, one I cannot accept. (I'm like that with of lot of things).

Well, tbh, I don't think that I can just will myself into being another religion. It takes convincing, and what convinces people are different things. I think you can choose to be open enough to listen to different sides and reasonings, though.

[Nationalist State of Knox]

Uh, give me a few hours. It was in the other religion thread, I'll have to go hunting for it.

Okay, thanks.

[Frisivisia]

He's saying they're both bad, and have lead to some bad things, he's not saying "Religion=Nazism."

I'm sure he meant it that way.

Except, of course, when you say "well banning this isn't bad because we ban nazism" you're literally saying it's on the same level as nazism.

And if I say "I enjoy neither Justin Bieber nor genocide", that's equating a teen pop star with the killing fields, right?

[Hathradic States]

I'm not some guy on a mission to destroy religion by "GENOCIDING ALL OF TEH STOPID RUHLIJUSES", I just think we'd be better off without it.

Uh huh

Yeah you did not answer my question

How are you going to make people who are religious into atheists?

Answer my goddamn question because ever since I been on this fucking website I've never got a answer for this question.

They simply cant. They think that education makes it go away, but they don't know how many people have some form of faith.

Myself being one. I hate to sound braggardly, but I am very, very well educated and well read, but even I believe there is a god.

[Luveria]

It can be a choice.

You are aware people can be indoctrinated into a religion from a young age, aren't you?

Yeah, that's a bad practice.

And those people are victims. That's how most fundies happen.

[Frisivisia]

He's saying they're both bad, and have lead to some bad things, he's not saying "Religion=Nazism."

I'm sure he meant it that way.

Except, of course, when you say "well banning this isn't bad because we ban nazism" you're literally saying it's on the same level as nazism.

I meant that we effectively ban Nazism through knowing that it's stupid!

[Seitonjin]

Seitojinn:
http://cubiksrube.wordpress.com/2008/08 ... ef-system/

Allow me to note that I do not agree with what is purported in this blog. I'm just linking to it to evidence my claim that some people consider atheism a belief system.

Also, allow me to note that this perhaps is due to a misunderstanding of the meaning of the word 'belief'.

It's four in the morning at that is pretty damn long.

And the blogger already messed up a teensy bit with his misunderstanding.

[Frisivisia]

Uh huh

Yeah you did not answer my question

How are you going to make people who are religious into atheists?

Answer my goddamn question because ever since I been on this fucking website I've never got a answer for this question.

They simply cant. They think that education makes it go away, but they don't know how many people have some form of faith.

Myself being one. I hate to sound braggardly, but I am very, very well educated and well read, but even I believe there is a god.

God does have a difficult time coexisting with logic...

[New Libertarian States]

He's saying they're both bad, and have lead to some bad things, he's not saying "Religion=Nazism."

I'm sure he meant it that way.

Except, of course, when you say "well banning this isn't bad because we ban nazism" you're literally saying it's on the same level as nazism.

Ok, so you KNEW what he was trying to say, and tried to pester him about it for, what,15 minutes?

[The Steel Magnolia]

I'm sure he meant it that way.

Except, of course, when you say "well banning this isn't bad because we ban nazism" you're literally saying it's on the same level as nazism.

I meant that we effectively ban Nazism through knowing that it's stupid!

Actually that's not true, given the multitude of legal provisions against it.

However, you're saying that religion is, on a level of stupidity, on the same level as nazism. so good job.

[Frisivisia]

I'm sure he meant it that way.

Except, of course, when you say "well banning this isn't bad because we ban nazism" you're literally saying it's on the same level as nazism.

Ok, so you KNEW what he was trying to say, and tried to pester him about it for, what,15 minutes?

Maggie isn't interested in debate, she's interested in teaching me a lesson or whatever.

[Orcoa]

Uh huh

Yeah you did not answer my question

How are you going to make people who are religious into atheists?

Answer my goddamn question because ever since I been on this fucking website I've never got a answer for this question.

They simply cant. They think that education makes it go away, but they don't know how many people have some form of faith.

Myself being one. I hate to sound braggardly, but I am very, very well educated and well read, but even I believe there is a god.

I don't give a flying fuck what they can't do.

I WANT A ANSWER TO THIS QUESTION

I'm tired of no one giving me one and I've been on this fucking website for almost 4 years.

[Nanatsu no Tsuki]

Seitojinn:
http://cubiksrube.wordpress.com/2008/08 ... ef-system/

Allow me to note that I do not agree with what is purported in this blog. I'm just linking to it to evidence my claim that some people consider atheism a belief system.

Also, allow me to note that this perhaps is due to a misunderstanding of the meaning of the word 'belief'.

It's four in the morning at that is pretty damn long.

And the blogger already messed up a teensy bit with his misunderstanding.

You can, if you wish, read it at a latter time. I'm just providing evidence of my claim. That's all.

[The Parkus Empire]

Don't tell me they don't irritate you, because even I get irritated by Jesus talk

Proselytising is what irritates me.

Even prayer annoys me.