Richard Dawkins: Islam is Bad

[Frisivisia]

Except he explicitly equated it to Nazism.

He might not have meant it that way, but like I've said so many times before: intentions are meaningless. What matters are the consequences.

This. Comparing something to Nazism has certain implications. Amusing that's from the guy who gets pissy about Godwin's Law.

I think Fris has a point, even if it is disagreeable.

He has no point. Not one bit.

If Fris has a point, then why the fuck am I defending religious people from Fris' douchiness? Don't you see what that does? He's not abolishing religion. He's making atheists defend it, because he's being that douchy.

I'm sitting here wondering why it's perfectly fine to call me a dick or an asshole or a douche or a bigot repeatedly, without evidence.

[The Steel Magnolia]

The man deserves a little context. I'm a bit like the Koran, you dig?

The quote tags are right there.

[Luveria]

Don't tell me they don't irritate you, because even I get irritated by Jesus talk

If someone tells me "Jesus was a cool guy" I wouldn't get annoyed.
When someone says "Jesus says your going to hell!!!", I think we all get annoyed.

And surprisingly, a lot of Christians would agree with you.

[Nationalist State of Knox]

Don't tell me they don't irritate you, because even I get irritated by Jesus talk

If someone tells me "Jesus was a cool guy" I wouldn't get annoyed.
When someone says "Jesus says your going to hell!!!", I think we all get annoyed.

I'd be more annoyed by the wrong "your" being used.

[Frisivisia]

You can't argue that nothing we do is a choice and immediately tie it back to the "gay/bi/trans" bludgeon you so enjoy using.

I'm not actually arguing that though. I'm saying there are empirically verifiable differences in the brains of the religious and the brains of the not.

And is this uncontrollable?

[Hathradic States]

Yes, you can. I chose my beliefs, thank you very much.

I'm not necessarily making a claim one way or another, I'm just thinking about the poor people who didn't realize they were gay/bi/trans until late in their lives, and I was wondering if it wasn't quite the same for religions.

I honestly don't think so. It is a hell of a stretch to say one is genetically predisposed towards a belief system.

[The Steel Magnolia]

This. Comparing something to Nazism has certain implications. Amusing that's from the guy who gets pissy about Godwin's Law.


He has no point. Not one bit.

If Fris has a point, then why the fuck am I defending religious people from Fris' douchiness? Don't you see what that does? He's not abolishing religion. He's making atheists defend it, because he's being that douchy.

I'm sitting here wondering why it's perfectly fine to call me a dick or an asshole or a douche or a bigot repeatedly, without evidence.

*points to the past 20 pages*

plenty of evidence. plenty.

but as always, feel free to report any incidences of flaming you might encounter.

[Orcoa]

You have been saying abolish all religion, world would be better off with religion, etc. etc.


You have no excuses for that.


Fris is only one of many. Every time I see someone say HERPA DERPA ALL RELIGION BAD! SMASH! RAWR! I think what the fuck have Wiccans ever done to you, seriously?

When I agreed with the "abolish religion" guy, it was obvious that he meant through completely nonviolent, non-forceful methods like teaching reason and science.

Where are you guys getting this quote that I hate all religious people and want to concentration camp them? Can I get a link?

So you think people of faith are uneducated? or have reason?

That's funny, I'm going to college right now and I don't have the sudden desire to leave my religion.

So...how are you going to make people into atheists without forcing them?

Because I'm sure that education is not the answer you are looking for joe

[The Steel Magnolia]

I'm not necessarily making a claim one way or another, I'm just thinking about the poor people who didn't realize they were gay/bi/trans until late in their lives, and I was wondering if it wasn't quite the same for religions.

I honestly don't think so. It is a hell of a stretch to say one is genetically predisposed towards a belief system.

Hence the reason why I'm not making that claim. It was an idle thought.

[Seitonjin]

If someone tells me "Jesus was a cool guy" I wouldn't get annoyed.
When someone says "Jesus says your going to hell!!!", I think we all get annoyed.

And surprisingly, a lot of Christians would agree with you.

Extremists are cray.

[Nationalist State of Knox]

You can't argue that nothing we do is a choice and immediately tie it back to the "gay/bi/trans" bludgeon you so enjoy using.

I'm not actually arguing that though. I'm saying there are empirically verifiable differences in the brains of the religious and the brains of the not.

Could you source that?

[The Steel Magnolia]

I'm not actually arguing that though. I'm saying there are empirically verifiable differences in the brains of the religious and the brains of the not.

And is this uncontrollable?

I don't believe I said that it was.

[Blasveck]

Except he explicitly equated it to Nazism.

He might not have meant it that way, but like I've said so many times before: intentions are meaningless. What matters are the consequences.

This. Comparing something to Nazism has certain implications. Amusing that's from the guy who gets pissy about Godwin's Law.

I think Fris has a point, even if it is disagreeable.

He has no point. Not one bit.

If Fris has a point, then why the fuck am I defending religious people from Fris' douchiness? Don't you see what that does? He's not abolishing religion. He's making atheists defend it, because he's being that douchy.

Good point, Luv.

I think I'm done hating on some random person on the Internet though.

[New Libertarian States]

Can I have the link to the quote, so I can better judge it?

Why do we functionally forbid Nazism? What bastards we are.

And, where, pray tell, is he equating religion to Nazism?
He's saying that National Socialism isn't good, I'm not seeing him equate it to Religion.

[New Libertarian States]

If someone tells me "Jesus was a cool guy" I wouldn't get annoyed.
When someone says "Jesus says your going to hell!!!", I think we all get annoyed.

I'd be more annoyed by the wrong "your" being used.

Dammit, I'll change it.

[Frisivisia]

When I agreed with the "abolish religion" guy, it was obvious that he meant through completely nonviolent, non-forceful methods like teaching reason and science.

Where are you guys getting this quote that I hate all religious people and want to concentration camp them? Can I get a link?

So you think people of faith are uneducated? or have reason?

That's funny, I'm going to college right now and I don't have the sudden desire to leave my religion.

So...how are you going to make people into atheists without forcing them?

Because I'm sure that education is not the answer you are looking for joe

I'm not some guy on a mission to destroy religion by "GENOCIDING ALL OF TEH STOPID RUHLIJUSES", I just think we'd be better off without it.

[The Steel Magnolia]

And, where, pray tell, is he equating religion to Nazism?
He's saying that National Socialism isn't good, I'm not seeing him equate it to Religion.

Follow the quote tree?

I said that functionally banning religion isn't a good thing. He responded with, "we functionally ban nazism", thereby linking the two.

[Frisivisia]

And is this uncontrollable?

I don't believe I said that it was.

So where's your point?

[The Steel Magnolia]

So you think people of faith are uneducated? or have reason?

That's funny, I'm going to college right now and I don't have the sudden desire to leave my religion.

So...how are you going to make people into atheists without forcing them?

Because I'm sure that education is not the answer you are looking for joe

I'm not some guy on a mission to destroy religion by "GENOCIDING ALL OF TEH STOPID RUHLIJUSES", I just think we'd be better off without it.

I'm not some girl on a mission to destroy homosexuals by "GENOCIDING ALL OF TEH STOPID GAYZZZ", I just think we'd be better off without it.

Come the fuck on.

[Frisivisia]

And, where, pray tell, is he equating religion to Nazism?
He's saying that National Socialism isn't good, I'm not seeing him equate it to Religion.

Follow the quote tree?

I said that functionally banning religion isn't a good thing. He responded with, "we functionally ban nazism", thereby linking the two.

Because I don't like either of them. Not because I secretly think that religion is Nazism.

[Blasveck]

And, where, pray tell, is he equating religion to Nazism?
He's saying that National Socialism isn't good, I'm not seeing him equate it to Religion.

Follow the quote tree?

I said that functionally banning religion isn't a good thing. He responded with, "we functionally ban nazism", thereby linking the two.

I think Biden is saying that they're both bad, but not equally bad.

[Seitonjin]

How is this...?

I am brainbroke.

Allow me to source it. One sec.

Thank you, take your time.

[Hathradic States]

I honestly don't think so. It is a hell of a stretch to say one is genetically predisposed towards a belief system.

Hence the reason why I'm not making that claim. It was an idle thought.

And interesting one, I must admit. But, one I cannot accept. (I'm like that with of lot of things).

[Luveria]

This. Comparing something to Nazism has certain implications. Amusing that's from the guy who gets pissy about Godwin's Law.


He has no point. Not one bit.

If Fris has a point, then why the fuck am I defending religious people from Fris' douchiness? Don't you see what that does? He's not abolishing religion. He's making atheists defend it, because he's being that douchy.

I'm sitting here wondering why it's perfectly fine to call me a dick or an asshole or a douche or a bigot repeatedly, without evidence.

Now you're acting like a summer-poster who leaves behind a pages long trail of evidence and says "please provide evidence of what you are claiming I said."

[The Steel Magnolia]

Follow the quote tree?

I said that functionally banning religion isn't a good thing. He responded with, "we functionally ban nazism", thereby linking the two.

I think Biden is saying that they're both bad, but not equally bad.

I'm sure he intended it like that.

Unfortunately, that's not what we said, and even given historical context that doesn't mean much given that Nazism is probably the only ideology that gets rejected.