Richard Dawkins: Islam is Bad

[Hathradic States]

Then they should say it to the nut's biggest defender here.

"I'm an atheist, and you do not speak for me."

I'm entirely serious. I promise to do the same every time some religious fundy comes up on here, so let's see how it goes, eh?

If anything, I can thank people like Dawkins and Joe for driving me to defend religious freedom. I didn't really care much until seeing how douchey militant atheists can be, to people not harming them one fucking bit.

^pretty much that. I'm not normally one to defend to the religious folk, either.

[Frisivisia]

I certainly think it would be better than way, but I'm not going to kill everyone with a cat sweater in the back of their closet.

Is there some sort of filter that changes all my posts into "FUCK ALL THA RELIGIS PPL THEIR STOPID AN I H8 THEM"?

Nah they just come out like that.

Oh, please don't take them like that. I don't hate religious people, I simply dislike and disbelieve religion and feel that the world would be better without it. I dunno if it's just that I'm tired, but I keep missing the part where I call for genocide against the Muslims.

[Luveria]

You're not an article, silly Luv.

But he is the living evidence.

I'm a she.

The feeling a lot of atheists get from Dawkins and Joe is the feeling some Muslims get from jihadists.

Extremism tends to tarnish a movement or and ideology. The key is to speak up, to counteract the ill effects of extremism. To say 'they do not speak for all of us'.

I respect believers. Within reason. As soon as someone crosses the threshold of extremism, I shut down. I have no respect for extremist Christians or Muslim. Or Jewish. Or any other creed for that matter.

However, I know these fringe elements do not speak for all Christians or Muslims or Jews.

Progressive religious people feel the same as you do about it. I've had a few Muslim friends who really hated fundamentalists, more so than non-Muslims.

[Nanatsu no Tsuki]

But he is the living evidence.

I'm a she.

Extremism tends to tarnish a movement or and ideology. The key is to speak up, to counteract the ill effects of extremism. To say 'they do not speak for all of us'.

I respect believers. Within reason. As soon as someone crosses the threshold of extremism, I shut down. I have no respect for extremist Christians or Muslim. Or Jewish. Or any other creed for that matter.

However, I know these fringe elements do not speak for all Christians or Muslims or Jews.

Progressive religious people feel the same as you do about it. I've had a few Muslim friends who really hated fundamentalists, more so than non-Muslims.

I identify as agnostic myself.

[Frisivisia]

Shit, you're really going out of your way with the Nazism thing. It's like you're using your proud heritage and who you are as a bludgeon in an online argument.

And you say I stoop low.

You mean... who we are influences the world around us? Who'd have thunk!?

I'm Irish. People say we're drunkards, which, though true, is an unfair stereotype. WHY ARE YOU TELLING A POOR IRISH BOY WHOSE ANCESTORS WERE TREATED INCREDIBLY POORLY IN THE 19TH CENTURY THAT HE'S A DRUNKARD?!?!?!?

[New Libertarian States]

I didn't say that religious people are dumb or that I wished they didn't exist, unless there's a filter on the things I'm saying.

I do remember saying that about religion, just the same as I'd say it about Communism or whether Call of Duty is a good video game or not.

I don't appreciate the flaming and calling me a dick and an asshole that seems perfectly acceptable as long as you're not saying it about whether or not I believe that Jesus was a real guy who walked on water.

Sorry, you're bitching and moaning about the flaming?

Should've thought of that before telling a jewish girl that her belief is Nazism 2.0.

What i remember is that he compared it to Nazis-ism is because he didn't like it.
Not that Abraham was Hitler.

[The Steel Magnolia]

Nah they just come out like that.

Oh, please don't take them like that. I don't hate religious people, I simply dislike and disbelieve religion and feel that the world would be better without it. I dunno if it's just that I'm tired, but I keep missing the part where I call for genocide against the Muslims.

so... you dislike religious people.

if you say you wish libertarianism was gone from this world you do realize you're saying you wish libertarians were gone from the world, right?

[Frisivisia]

I'm a she.


Progressive religious people feel the same as you do about it. I've had a few Muslim friends who really hated fundamentalists, more so than non-Muslims.

I identify as agnostic myself.

So do I. I identify as an atheist too.

[The Steel Magnolia]

Sorry, you're bitching and moaning about the flaming?

Should've thought of that before telling a jewish girl that her belief is Nazism 2.0.

What i remember is that he compared it to Nazis-ism is because he didn't like it.
Not that Abraham was Hitler.

...which makes it less bad, how again?

[Frisivisia]

Oh, please don't take them like that. I don't hate religious people, I simply dislike and disbelieve religion and feel that the world would be better without it. I dunno if it's just that I'm tired, but I keep missing the part where I call for genocide against the Muslims.

so... you dislike religious people.

if you say you wish libertarianism was gone from this world you do realize you're saying you wish libertarians were gone from the world, right?

I'm not really following you.

[Frisivisia]

What i remember is that he compared it to Nazis-ism is because he didn't like it.
Not that Abraham was Hitler.

...which makes it less bad, how again?

Because I don't like plenty of things. You're just choosing the one that you can smack me with most effectively. It's really not nice.

[Luveria]

If anything, I can thank people like Dawkins and Joe for driving me to defend religious freedom. I didn't really care much until seeing how douchey militant atheists can be, to people not harming them one fucking bit.

^pretty much that. I'm not normally one to defend to the religious folk, either.

I pretty much have to now. I can't sit back and watch while someone bashes on people who support my rights and don't bother anyone.

I mean what the fuck reason is there to be such an ass and bash on people for a belief they happen to have when they aren't harming anyone. It's just bigotry.

[Seitonjin]

But he is the living evidence.

I'm a she.

*backs into corner and mutters*

Shit nuggets. I feel idiotic. *jumps into the wall*

[Nanatsu no Tsuki]

I identify as agnostic myself.

So do I. I identify as an atheist too.

I am not sure whether I'm agnostic theist or agnostic atheist. But that's a topic for another discussion.

[The Steel Magnolia]

You mean... who we are influences the world around us? Who'd have thunk!?

I'm Irish. People say we're drunkards, which, though true, is an unfair stereotype. WHY ARE YOU TELLING A POOR IRISH BOY WHOSE ANCESTORS WERE TREATED INCREDIBLY POORLY IN THE 19TH CENTURY THAT HE'S A DRUNKARD?!?!?!?

I'm Irish too. I'm also an alcoholic! I also face mental illness, physical disability, PTSD, GID, the whole gamut really.

I'd take that any day over the hatred you harbor in your heart.

[Frisivisia]

^pretty much that. I'm not normally one to defend to the religious folk, either.

I pretty much have to now. I can't sit back and watch while someone bashes on people who support my rights and don't bother anyone.

I mean what the fuck reason is there to be such an ass and bash on people for a belief they happen to have when they aren't harming anyone. It's just bigotry.

What's with this idea that I'm bigoted against religious people? I'm not!

[Hathradic States]

Nah they just come out like that.

Oh, please don't take them like that. I don't hate religious people, I simply dislike and disbelieve religion and feel that the world would be better without it. I dunno if it's just that I'm tired, but I keep missing the part where I call for genocide against the Muslims.

In order to get the world free of religion, you have to free it from religious people...there is only one way to do that right, you know.

I think everybody accepting a live and let live attitude would be much better, myself.

[The Steel Magnolia]

I pretty much have to now. I can't sit back and watch while someone bashes on people who support my rights and don't bother anyone.

I mean what the fuck reason is there to be such an ass and bash on people for a belief they happen to have when they aren't harming anyone. It's just bigotry.

What's with this idea that I'm bigoted against religious people? I'm not!

Frisivisia: "Religion is Nazism."

[New Libertarian States]

What i remember is that he compared it to Nazis-ism is because he didn't like it.
Not that Abraham was Hitler.

...which makes it less bad, how again?

I don't like X idea, so I think it's bad and equating it to National Socialism isn't flaming.
I wouldn't compare religion to Nazism I think it was a poor analogy .
Maybe chopped liver would have been better, or something not as horrible as National Socialism

[Frisivisia]

I'm Irish. People say we're drunkards, which, though true, is an unfair stereotype. WHY ARE YOU TELLING A POOR IRISH BOY WHOSE ANCESTORS WERE TREATED INCREDIBLY POORLY IN THE 19TH CENTURY THAT HE'S A DRUNKARD?!?!?!?

I'm Irish too. I'm also an alcoholic! I also face mental illness, physical disability, PTSD, GID, the whole gamut really.

I'd take that any day over the hatred you harbor in your heart.

My deep-seated hatred for white people?

Oh wait, the "Joe disagrees with me so bigot" thing. This is a very popular misconception.

[Blasveck]

^pretty much that. I'm not normally one to defend to the religious folk, either.

I pretty much have to now. I can't sit back and watch while someone bashes on people who support my rights and don't bother anyone.

I mean what the fuck reason is there to be such an ass and bash on people for a belief they happen to have when they aren't harming anyone. It's just bigotry.

There is a difference between bash and criticize though.

Not saying Biden is/was simply criticizing either.

[Frisivisia]

What's with this idea that I'm bigoted against religious people? I'm not!

Frisivisia: "Religion is Nazism."

Jesus, you really do want this to happen.

[The Steel Magnolia]

...which makes it less bad, how again?

I don't like X idea, so I think it's bad and equating it to National Socialism isn't flaming.
I wouldn't compare religion to Nazism I think it was a poor analogy .
Maybe chopped liver would have been better, or something not as horrible as National Socialism

Tell that to Joe.

[Hathradic States]

^pretty much that. I'm not normally one to defend to the religious folk, either.

I pretty much have to now. I can't sit back and watch while someone bashes on people who support my rights and don't bother anyone.

I mean what the fuck reason is there to be such an ass and bash on people for a belief they happen to have when they aren't harming anyone. It's just bigotry.

Pretty much. I'm not singling out Fris here, I don't think Fris is much of a bigot, but I have seen posters before go on about how all religious people are stupid and irrational, or that they are all just bad people. That shit just ain't right.

[The Steel Magnolia]

I'm Irish too. I'm also an alcoholic! I also face mental illness, physical disability, PTSD, GID, the whole gamut really.

I'd take that any day over the hatred you harbor in your heart.

My deep-seated hatred for white people?

Oh wait, the "Joe disagrees with me so bigot" thing. This is a very popular misconception.

no. The part where you hate religion and the religious, however, makes it so.