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Torcularis Septentrionalis
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Postby Torcularis Septentrionalis » Fri Aug 09, 2013 9:04 pm

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Torcularis Septentrionalis wrote:Sadly, my boyfriend, who should be the more mature one since he's 8 years older and has kids for fuck's sake, is ridiculously immature and if he starts talking about marriage one more time I'm done.
Why 4 immaturity???

Of course he wants to get married, it's more financially stable; plus, he has kids.

We've only been dating a month, and it's clearly not more financially stable as I don't have a job.
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Postby The Grey Wolf » Fri Aug 09, 2013 9:05 pm

Torcularis Septentrionalis wrote:
Ostroeuropa wrote:
Sure.
And a campaign getting people to stop giving a shit about gender would do that just fine. The women being told that could be told "But your gender is of absolutely no consequence. Don't listen to them. The only people who think it matters are nutters and sexists, and there are laws against them acting on it. So stop giving a shit and come and have a pint."
I have no clue why you'd instead opt for "no, gender is MASSIVELY IMPORTANT but they are wrong! your gender is -"
And if someone acts on gender and discriminates, I have no problem with punishing them. It's a prejudice. But I don't see why the rest of us have to care.

Especially as the second approach leads to ridiculous shit.

Where in the world am I advocating for what you think I'm advocating?
I'm trying for the same thing you are, getting people to stop telling girls their gender is a factor in what they can and cannot do well and that they are just as capable as a boy.


I miss the days before feminism invaded my town.

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Postby United Marxist Nations » Fri Aug 09, 2013 9:05 pm

Torcularis Septentrionalis wrote:
United Marxist Nations wrote:Of course he wants to get married, it's more financially stable; plus, he has kids.

We've only been dating a month, and it's clearly not more financially stable as I don't have a job.

I think you get a tax cut for getting married. Yes, a month is way too short.
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Postby Nightkill the Emperor » Fri Aug 09, 2013 9:05 pm

Oh, words that have helped me get many a girl.

"You have time to hit the pub tonight with a few blokes and your own friends?"

Surprisingly useful. Also helps with job interviews.
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Postby The Land of Truth » Fri Aug 09, 2013 9:06 pm

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Can I talk to the camels instead?

If you love them very much.

And if they're jazzy, you take 'em to dinner. ;)
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Postby Hathradic States » Fri Aug 09, 2013 9:06 pm

Nightkill the Emperor wrote:Oh, words that have helped me get many a girl.

"You have time to hit the pub tonight with a few blokes and your own friends?"

Surprisingly useful. Also helps with job interviews.

Those nights end best when everybody hooks up with someone.

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Postby The Grey Wolf » Fri Aug 09, 2013 9:08 pm

Hathradic States wrote:
Nightkill the Emperor wrote:Oh, words that have helped me get many a girl.

"You have time to hit the pub tonight with a few blokes and your own friends?"

Surprisingly useful. Also helps with job interviews.

Those nights end best when everybody hooks up with someone.


And then in a few weeks later when the pregnant lass knocks on your door.

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Postby Hathradic States » Fri Aug 09, 2013 9:08 pm

The Grey Wolf wrote:
Hathradic States wrote:Those nights end best when everybody hooks up with someone.


And then in a few weeks later when the pregnant lass knocks on your door.

Condoms exist for a reason.

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Torcularis Septentrionalis
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Postby Torcularis Septentrionalis » Fri Aug 09, 2013 9:09 pm

The Grey Wolf wrote:
Torcularis Septentrionalis wrote:Where in the world am I advocating for what you think I'm advocating?
I'm trying for the same thing you are, getting people to stop telling girls their gender is a factor in what they can and cannot do well and that they are just as capable as a boy.


I miss the days before feminism invaded my town.

Please stop talking.
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Postby Ostroeuropa » Fri Aug 09, 2013 9:09 pm

Torcularis Septentrionalis wrote:
Ostroeuropa wrote:
Sure.
And a campaign getting people to stop giving a shit about gender would do that just fine. The women being told that could be told "But your gender is of absolutely no consequence. Don't listen to them. The only people who think it matters are nutters and sexists, and there are laws against them acting on it. So stop giving a shit and come and have a pint."
I have no clue why you'd instead opt for "no, gender is MASSIVELY IMPORTANT but they are wrong! your gender is -"
And if someone acts on gender and discriminates, I have no problem with punishing them. It's a prejudice. But I don't see why the rest of us have to care.

Especially as the second approach leads to ridiculous shit.

Where in the world am I advocating for what you think I'm advocating?
I'm trying for the same thing you are, getting people to stop telling girls their gender is a factor in what they can and cannot do well and that they are just as capable as a boy.


You may not.
Other feminists do, and your brand is being taken over by them.
The gender-feminists instead of the abolition or equality feminists.
I'm a gender abolitionist. I refuse to associate with the term feminism because of what they have done to it.
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Postby The Serbian Empire » Fri Aug 09, 2013 9:10 pm

The Grey Wolf wrote:
Hathradic States wrote:Those nights end best when everybody hooks up with someone.


And then in a few weeks later when the pregnant lass knocks on your door.

Just be glad it's not a call to the Maury Show.
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Postby The Parkus Empire » Fri Aug 09, 2013 9:11 pm

The Grey Wolf wrote:
Torcularis Septentrionalis wrote:Where in the world am I advocating for what you think I'm advocating?
I'm trying for the same thing you are, getting people to stop telling girls their gender is a factor in what they can and cannot do well and that they are just as capable as a boy.


I miss the days before feminism invaded my town.

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Postby Hathradic States » Fri Aug 09, 2013 9:12 pm

The Serbian Empire wrote:
The Grey Wolf wrote:
And then in a few weeks later when the pregnant lass knocks on your door.

Just be glad it's not a call to the Maury Show.

My ex tried to pull me into something like that.

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Postby Nazi Flower Power » Fri Aug 09, 2013 9:12 pm

The French Revolutionaries wrote:Hello everyone. This is kind of embarrassing :blush: , so I'm using one of my puppets, but I'm looking for general advice on the female. I sort of understand the traditional woman, but not the modern (that's hindsight for you).

Anyways, what do girls actually like in males? Kindness? Piety? Chivalry? Or something else entirely? How can one tell if a girl is interested in them?

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It depends on the girl. Personally, I like guys that are honest and level-headed.

It's OK if you get nervous talking to a girl for the first time. It's OK if you're a little bit dorky sometimes. It's OK if you're not rich enough to afford fancy restaurants all the time. It's OK if you aren't as sexy as Jacoby Ellsbury. It's OK if you have limits of how far you're willing to go to please a woman.

But your flaws are going to be more of a problem if you try to cover them up and pretend to be some kind of super-human knight in shining armor. Don't say things like, "I could be happy anywhere if I was with you," unless you are ready for some crazy scheme that involves moving to Namibia. Don't say, "I'll pay all the bills and you'll never have to worry about a thing," unless you are financially stable enough to actually do so.
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Postby Stern des Meeres » Fri Aug 09, 2013 9:13 pm

Ostroeuropa wrote:
Torcularis Septentrionalis wrote:Where in the world am I advocating for what you think I'm advocating?
I'm trying for the same thing you are, getting people to stop telling girls their gender is a factor in what they can and cannot do well and that they are just as capable as a boy.


You may not.
Other feminists do, and your brand is being taken over by them.
The gender-feminists instead of the abolition or equality feminists.
I'm a gender abolitionist. I refuse to associate with the term feminism because of what they have done to it.

I understand where you are coming from. Feminism has a slightly bad name. However, the majority of people I have met realize that women being superior is just as idiotic as men being superior.
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Postby United Marxist Nations » Fri Aug 09, 2013 9:14 pm

Nazi Flower Power wrote:
The French Revolutionaries wrote:Hello everyone. This is kind of embarrassing :blush: , so I'm using one of my puppets, but I'm looking for general advice on the female. I sort of understand the traditional woman, but not the modern (that's hindsight for you).

Anyways, what do girls actually like in males? Kindness? Piety? Chivalry? Or something else entirely? How can one tell if a girl is interested in them?

One Rule: Please, no vulgarity.


It depends on the girl. Personally, I like guys that are honest and level-headed.

It's OK if you get nervous talking to a girl for the first time. It's OK if you're a little bit dorky sometimes. It's OK if you're not rich enough to afford fancy restaurants all the time. It's OK if you aren't as sexy as Jacoby Ellsbury. It's OK if you have limits of how far you're willing to go to please a woman.

But your flaws are going to be more of a problem if you try to cover them up and pretend to be some kind of super-human knight in shining armor. Don't say things like, "I could be happy anywhere if I was with you," unless you are ready for some crazy scheme that involves moving to Namibia. Don't say, "I'll pay all the bills and you'll never have to worry about a thing," unless you are financially stable enough to actually do so.

The armor is nice enough to have, regardless of what women think.
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Postby The Parkus Empire » Fri Aug 09, 2013 9:16 pm

Ostroeuropa wrote:
Torcularis Septentrionalis wrote:Where in the world am I advocating for what you think I'm advocating?
I'm trying for the same thing you are, getting people to stop telling girls their gender is a factor in what they can and cannot do well and that they are just as capable as a boy.


You may not.
Other feminists do, and your brand is being taken over by them.
The gender-feminists instead of the abolition or equality feminists.
I'm a gender abolitionist. I refuse to associate with the term feminism because of what they have done to it.

Blah blah blah. You refuse to associate with the term feminist because you refuse to ever recognize men as a class of privilege under any circumstances whatsoever.
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Postby Ostroeuropa » Fri Aug 09, 2013 9:16 pm

Anyway, final roundup of advice:

Be a brony (Chicks love bronies.)
Party!
Don't be an asshole (unless they are into that sort of thing.)
Buy a strapon

You'll be rolling in women in no time.
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Postby Ostroeuropa » Fri Aug 09, 2013 9:17 pm

The Parkus Empire wrote:
Ostroeuropa wrote:
You may not.
Other feminists do, and your brand is being taken over by them.
The gender-feminists instead of the abolition or equality feminists.
I'm a gender abolitionist. I refuse to associate with the term feminism because of what they have done to it.

Blah blah blah. You refuse to associate with the term feminist because you refuse to ever recognize men as a class of privilege under any circumstances whatsoever.


In the sense that some prisoners can have privileges and others may not? Sure. They were.
In the sense that they were prison guards? No. They were also prisoners, and pretending otherwise like you people do is monstrous.
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Postby The Land of Truth » Fri Aug 09, 2013 9:17 pm

The Parkus Empire wrote:
Ostroeuropa wrote:
You may not.
Other feminists do, and your brand is being taken over by them.
The gender-feminists instead of the abolition or equality feminists.
I'm a gender abolitionist. I refuse to associate with the term feminism because of what they have done to it.

Blah blah blah. You refuse to associate with the term feminist because you refuse to ever recognize men as a class of privilege under any circumstances whatsoever.

No one ever said that.
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Postby Hathradic States » Fri Aug 09, 2013 9:17 pm

The Parkus Empire wrote:
Ostroeuropa wrote:
You may not.
Other feminists do, and your brand is being taken over by them.
The gender-feminists instead of the abolition or equality feminists.
I'm a gender abolitionist. I refuse to associate with the term feminism because of what they have done to it.

Blah blah blah. You refuse to associate with the term feminist because you refuse to ever recognize men as a class of privilege under any circumstances whatsoever.

Because it is no longer the class of privilege in the Western world. Rich is the class of privilege.

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Postby Ostroeuropa » Fri Aug 09, 2013 9:18 pm

Hathradic States wrote:
The Parkus Empire wrote:Blah blah blah. You refuse to associate with the term feminist because you refuse to ever recognize men as a class of privilege under any circumstances whatsoever.

Because it is no longer the class of privilege in the Western world. Rich is the class of privilege.


And always was.
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Postby United Marxist Nations » Fri Aug 09, 2013 9:18 pm

Hathradic States wrote:
The Parkus Empire wrote:Blah blah blah. You refuse to associate with the term feminist because you refuse to ever recognize men as a class of privilege under any circumstances whatsoever.

Because it is no longer the class of privilege in the Western world. Rich is the class of privilege.

It was always that way.
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Postby The Parkus Empire » Fri Aug 09, 2013 9:19 pm

Hathradic States wrote:
The Parkus Empire wrote:Blah blah blah. You refuse to associate with the term feminist because you refuse to ever recognize men as a class of privilege under any circumstances whatsoever.

Because it is no longer the class of privilege in the Western world. Rich is the class of privilege.

He doesn't recolonize that it ever was, even in the fucking 1800's, even in the Middle East.
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Postby Mavorpen » Fri Aug 09, 2013 9:19 pm

So yeah, kicking and screaming about feminism is girl advice?
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