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Postby The Land of Truth » Fri Aug 09, 2013 8:56 pm

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Hathradic States wrote:Part of why I said "girls". This led to trouble finding a date my own age when I was in highschool. :P That, and far too smart and mature acting IRL for teenage girls.

Why? Do you think teenage girls don't like smart or mature males?

Some do, some don't. People are different.
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Postby Fartsniffage » Fri Aug 09, 2013 8:56 pm

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Torcularis Septentrionalis wrote:If you care about women, then you need to realize that we are not weaklings for you to protect just because we've got an innie and you've got an outie.
Support EMPOWERMENT of women, not treating them like prizes you have to protect from everything.


I care about women. That is why they must be protected. They can protect themselves, they can work for themselves, but I was taught by my own mother to try to prevent this stuff from having to happen. It is not that they are weak or anything like that, it is because they are humans that they are so important.

Our opinions on what it means to care for women are blatantly different.


You know, you could have looked less sill by just substituting the word "people" for "women" in that post.

You would have got much less shit than your about to as well.....

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Postby Nightkill the Emperor » Fri Aug 09, 2013 8:56 pm

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Stern des Meeres wrote:No. One should gladly take up arms and march to their death for the protection of human fucking beings, regardless of gender.
and even then, no one should be forced to take up arms.


Why? That is a cornerstone of honour.

Your honour is different from many people's.
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Postby Stern des Meeres » Fri Aug 09, 2013 8:56 pm

The French Revolutionaries wrote:
Stern des Meeres wrote:No. One should gladly take up arms and march to their death for the protection of human fucking beings, regardless of gender.
and even then, no one should be forced to take up arms.


Why? That is a cornerstone of honour.

Honor in the historical sense isn't for everyone.
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Postby Hathradic States » Fri Aug 09, 2013 8:57 pm

Vitaphone Racing wrote:
Hathradic States wrote:Part of why I said "girls". This led to trouble finding a date my own age when I was in highschool. :P That, and far too smart and mature acting IRL for teenage girls.

Why? Do you think teenage girls don't like smart or mature males?

Not in my experiences, though I admit that all people are different. *shrug* Then again, part of it could have been the girls I was pursuing.

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Postby Alexander Sothis » Fri Aug 09, 2013 8:57 pm

The French Revolutionaries wrote:Hello everyone. This is kind of embarrassing :blush: , so I'm using one of my puppets, but I'm looking for general advice on the female. I sort of understand the traditional woman, but not the modern (that's hindsight for you).

Anyways, what do girls actually like in males? Kindness? Piety? Chivalry? Or something else entirely? How can one tell if a girl is interested in them?

One Rule: Please, no vulgarity.


Well, me I am slightly crazy in the head, always doing what I find to be humerous stuff, but occasionally others do not. It took a LONG time for me to find a girl who appreciates my BS, but once found life was great. My point is this. No girl are the same. WHere 99 percent of girls found me obnoxious when I was young, the 1% made the difference. Plus, as I get older that helps. I think you shouldnt ask what girls like, they like all different types. You should find out what type of girl you like or desire, (being realistic to the fact that not everyone will like your own personality type), and NOT settle for any other type of girl.

That being said, if you are having fun, you are being yourself, you cannot fake true enjoyment. Have fun, and the girls who like you will come.

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Postby Torcularis Septentrionalis » Fri Aug 09, 2013 8:57 pm

Ostroeuropa wrote:
Torcularis Septentrionalis wrote:If you care about women, then you need to realize that we are not weaklings for you to protect just because we've got an innie and you've got an outie.
Support EMPOWERMENT of women, not treating them like prizes you have to protect from everything.


Why do I need to support the empowerment of women if they are just as good as men?
I'd rather support not giving a shit about if you're a man or a woman. That seems to solve the issue satisfactorily without any potential for overshooting the mark or missing anything out, or far more likely, only empowering white middle class harpies who wont shut the fuck up while leaving the vast majority of women in the shithouse that they can use for leverage.

Because many women are still being told that they aren't capable of doing X, like being a scientist or mathematician or politician or police officer, just because they have girly bits. Or they're told they need a "prince charming" and someone to care for them and love them and HEAVEN FORBID IF THEY DON'T GET MARRIED BY A CERTAIN AGE.
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Postby The Parkus Empire » Fri Aug 09, 2013 8:57 pm

The French Revolutionaries wrote:
Stern des Meeres wrote:No. One should gladly take up arms and march to their death for the protection of human fucking beings, regardless of gender.
and even then, no one should be forced to take up arms.


Why? That is a cornerstone of honour.

So is killing anyone who insults you
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Postby Vitaphone Racing » Fri Aug 09, 2013 8:57 pm

The Land of Truth wrote:
Vitaphone Racing wrote:Why? Do you think teenage girls don't like smart or mature males?

Some do, some don't. People are different.

Exactly, people are different. Which is why it's wrong to blame "I didn't get a date in highschool" on "teenage girls don't like smart guys". It's bullshit, and I have photos to prove it.
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Postby Wintersun » Fri Aug 09, 2013 8:58 pm

Easiest way to figure out what she wants is to befriend her. "Well that will just get me friendzoned!" Perhaps, perhaps not. At the very least you'll know what she likes and such and meet her friends, so if she friendzones you more than likely one of her friends will like you. Just start talking to her like you would any other friend, it's win/win really.

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Postby Tlaceceyaya » Fri Aug 09, 2013 8:58 pm

The French Revolutionaries wrote:
Stern des Meeres wrote:No. One should gladly take up arms and march to their death for the protection of human fucking beings, regardless of gender.
and even then, no one should be forced to take up arms.


Why? That is a cornerstone of honour.

Can your honour bring someone's dead child back to them after they have been killed in a pointless war?
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Postby Pasovo-nacoBo » Fri Aug 09, 2013 8:58 pm

*GASP*

SOMEONES ACTUALLY BACK ON TOPIC!!!

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Postby The Land of Truth » Fri Aug 09, 2013 8:58 pm

Vitaphone Racing wrote:
The Land of Truth wrote:Some do, some don't. People are different.

Exactly, people are different. Which is why it's wrong to blame "I didn't get a date in highschool" on "teenage girls don't like smart guys". It's bullshit, and I have photos to prove it.

Okay, that's nice. Me, too (well, I don't have them, personally, but they exist).
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Postby United Marxist Nations » Fri Aug 09, 2013 8:59 pm

Tlaceceyaya wrote:
The French Revolutionaries wrote:
Why? That is a cornerstone of honour.

Can your honour bring someone's dead child back to them after they have been killed in a pointless war?

No, but give him the body and some string, and he can fake it.
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Postby Wintersun » Fri Aug 09, 2013 8:59 pm

Vitaphone Racing wrote:
The Land of Truth wrote:Some do, some don't. People are different.

Exactly, people are different. Which is why it's wrong to blame "I didn't get a date in highschool" on "teenage girls don't like smart guys". It's bullshit, and I have photos to prove it.


This. Chicks dig geeks in college, I mean for one you can fix their computers and get them free wifi and help with their homework and two by that time they're tired of the asshole guys. Not all of them of course, but a great many and those are fantastic odds.

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Postby Torcularis Septentrionalis » Fri Aug 09, 2013 9:00 pm

The Grey Wolf wrote:
Torcularis Septentrionalis wrote:Sadly, my boyfriend, who should be the more mature one since he's 8 years older and has kids for fuck's sake, is ridiculously immature and if he starts talking about marriage one more time I'm done.
Why 4 immaturity???


You sound like the immature one.

Yes, I'm sure you know my entire story. Please, go on.
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Postby United Marxist Nations » Fri Aug 09, 2013 9:00 pm

Pasovo-nacoBo wrote:*GASP*

SOMEONES ACTUALLY BACK ON TOPIC!!!

Seize him!
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Postby Murray land » Fri Aug 09, 2013 9:01 pm

Alexander Sothis wrote:
The French Revolutionaries wrote:Hello everyone. This is kind of embarrassing :blush: , so I'm using one of my puppets, but I'm looking for general advice on the female. I sort of understand the traditional woman, but not the modern (that's hindsight for you).

Anyways, what do girls actually like in males? Kindness? Piety? Chivalry? Or something else entirely? How can one tell if a girl is interested in them?

One Rule: Please, no vulgarity.


Well, me I am slightly crazy in the head, always doing what I find to be humerous stuff, but occasionally others do not. It took a LONG time for me to find a girl who appreciates my BS, but once found life was great. My point is this. No girl are the same. WHere 99 percent of girls found me obnoxious when I was young, the 1% made the difference. Plus, as I get older that helps. I think you shouldnt ask what girls like, they like all different types. You should find out what type of girl you like or desire, (being realistic to the fact that not everyone will like your own personality type), and NOT settle for any other type of girl.

That being said, if you are having fun, you are being yourself, you cannot fake true enjoyment. Have fun, and the girls who like you will come.

Damn skippy this post here damn skippy. I'm with you for the vast majority who don't like or are indifferent to you the one who care are great. Hell I can even say that about my exes they cared and when we were together it made a difference.
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Postby Ostroeuropa » Fri Aug 09, 2013 9:01 pm

Torcularis Septentrionalis wrote:
Ostroeuropa wrote:
Why do I need to support the empowerment of women if they are just as good as men?
I'd rather support not giving a shit about if you're a man or a woman. That seems to solve the issue satisfactorily without any potential for overshooting the mark or missing anything out, or far more likely, only empowering white middle class harpies who wont shut the fuck up while leaving the vast majority of women in the shithouse that they can use for leverage.

Because many women are still being told that they aren't capable of doing X, like being a scientist or mathematician or politician or police officer, just because they have girly bits. Or they're told they need a "prince charming" and someone to care for them and love them and HEAVEN FORBID IF THEY DON'T GET MARRIED BY A CERTAIN AGE.
We need to get people to stop doing that.


Sure.
And a campaign getting people to stop giving a shit about gender would do that just fine. The women being told that could be told "But your gender is of absolutely no consequence. Don't listen to them. The only people who think it matters are nutters and sexists, and there are laws against them acting on it. So stop giving a shit and come and have a pint."
I have no clue why you'd instead opt for "no, gender is MASSIVELY IMPORTANT but they are wrong! your gender is -"
And if someone acts on gender and discriminates, I have no problem with punishing them. It's a prejudice. But I don't see why the rest of us have to care.

Especially as the second approach leads to ridiculous shit.
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Postby Nightkill the Emperor » Fri Aug 09, 2013 9:02 pm

So yeah.

Talk to females. Or buy with camels.

I think we're done now.
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Postby United Marxist Nations » Fri Aug 09, 2013 9:02 pm

Torcularis Septentrionalis wrote:
Hathradic States wrote:Part of why I said "girls". This led to trouble finding a date my own age when I was in highschool. :P That, and far too smart and mature acting IRL for teenage girls.

Sadly, my boyfriend, who should be the more mature one since he's 8 years older and has kids for fuck's sake, is ridiculously immature and if he starts talking about marriage one more time I'm done.
Why 4 immaturity???

Of course he wants to get married, it's more financially stable; plus, he has kids.
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Postby Hathradic States » Fri Aug 09, 2013 9:02 pm

Vitaphone Racing wrote:
The Land of Truth wrote:Some do, some don't. People are different.

Exactly, people are different. Which is why it's wrong to blame "I didn't get a date in highschool" on "teenage girls don't like smart guys". It's bullshit, and I have photos to prove it.

I never said I didn't get a date.

I just never got a young date. And I did say it was only part. (The rest of it being I was a shy, fat kid for my first two years of highschool, and that never helps)

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Postby Ostroeuropa » Fri Aug 09, 2013 9:02 pm

Nightkill the Emperor wrote:So yeah.

Talk to females. Or buy with camels.

I think we're done now.


Can I talk to the camels instead?
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Postby Nightkill the Emperor » Fri Aug 09, 2013 9:03 pm

Ostroeuropa wrote:
Nightkill the Emperor wrote:So yeah.

Talk to females. Or buy with camels.

I think we're done now.


Can I talk to the camels instead?

If you love them very much.
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Postby Torcularis Septentrionalis » Fri Aug 09, 2013 9:03 pm

Ostroeuropa wrote:
Torcularis Septentrionalis wrote:Because many women are still being told that they aren't capable of doing X, like being a scientist or mathematician or politician or police officer, just because they have girly bits. Or they're told they need a "prince charming" and someone to care for them and love them and HEAVEN FORBID IF THEY DON'T GET MARRIED BY A CERTAIN AGE.
We need to get people to stop doing that.


Sure.
And a campaign getting people to stop giving a shit about gender would do that just fine. The women being told that could be told "But your gender is of absolutely no consequence. Don't listen to them. The only people who think it matters are nutters and sexists, and there are laws against them acting on it. So stop giving a shit and come and have a pint."
I have no clue why you'd instead opt for "no, gender is MASSIVELY IMPORTANT but they are wrong! your gender is -"
And if someone acts on gender and discriminates, I have no problem with punishing them. It's a prejudice. But I don't see why the rest of us have to care.

Especially as the second approach leads to ridiculous shit.

Where in the world am I advocating for what you think I'm advocating?
I'm trying for the same thing you are, getting people to stop telling girls their gender is a factor in what they can and cannot do well and that they are just as capable as a boy.
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