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Postby The Grey Wolf » Fri Aug 09, 2013 8:52 pm

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Sorry, I'm just telling you that you probably shouldn't threadjack this into an argument about theism vs atheism; the mods hate that.


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Postby The Land of Truth » Fri Aug 09, 2013 8:52 pm

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Vitaphone Racing wrote:When they're 15, maybe.

Part of why I said "girls". This led to trouble finding a date my own age when I was in highschool. :P That, and far too smart and mature acting IRL for teenage girls.

Ironic, 'cause the girls in my school want nothing but mature guys.
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Postby Fartsniffage » Fri Aug 09, 2013 8:52 pm

Vitaphone Racing wrote:I really hope the message sinks in when not one but five people just said the same thing...


You mug...this is NSG. :)

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Postby Vitaphone Racing » Fri Aug 09, 2013 8:52 pm

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Nightkill the Emperor wrote:Because they can care about themselves?

Women are not special. They are people like men. I will happily insult them and befriend them and treat them equally and judge them on their personality merits and circumstance, rather than what genitals they got.

SEXIST!!!!

Are you actually going to make proper points or just shitpost? The pseudo-ironic one liner is getting old bro, you've done it to death in this thread.
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Postby Ostroeuropa » Fri Aug 09, 2013 8:52 pm

Torcularis Septentrionalis wrote:
The French Revolutionaries wrote:Hold on, hold on. Why am I sexist for actually caring about women?

If you care about women, then you need to realize that we are not weaklings for you to protect just because we've got an innie and you've got an outie.
Support EMPOWERMENT of women, not treating them like prizes you have to protect from everything.


Why do I need to support the empowerment of women if they are just as good as men?
I'd rather support not giving a shit about if you're a man or a woman. That seems to solve the issue satisfactorily without any potential for overshooting the mark or missing anything out, or far more likely, only empowering white middle class harpies who wont shut the fuck up while leaving the vast majority of women in the shithouse that they can use for leverage.
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Postby United Marxist Nations » Fri Aug 09, 2013 8:53 pm

The Grey Wolf wrote:
United Marxist Nations wrote:Sorry, I'm just telling you that you probably shouldn't threadjack this into an argument about theism vs atheism; the mods hate that.


Listen to United Marxists Nations. He's right.

I think they already did.
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Postby Pasovo-nacoBo » Fri Aug 09, 2013 8:53 pm

The Land of Truth wrote:
The French Revolutionaries wrote:
I was saying that people are willing to fight to the death over that stuff, and since women are people, they are far more valuable. So, one should gladly take up arms and march to their death for the protection of women.

They're no more valuable than men.

Well, actually.

Theorectically, they DO give us all of our children..so we need them, and they're valuable for that, and contributing to society.

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Postby The Rich Port » Fri Aug 09, 2013 8:53 pm

Vitaphone Racing wrote:I really hope the message sinks in when not one but five people just said the same thing...


Of COURSE it won't.

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Postby Stern des Meeres » Fri Aug 09, 2013 8:53 pm

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Stern des Meeres wrote:Ah, yes, I apologize.

Basically, French Revolutionaries, objectifying women by comparing them to gold and land is not going to get you brownie points in the love department.


I was saying that people are willing to fight to the death over that stuff, and since women are people, they are far more valuable. So, one should gladly take up arms and march to their death for the protection of women.

No. One should gladly take up arms and march to their death for the protection of human fucking beings, regardless of gender.
and even then, no one should be forced to take up arms.
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Postby Nightkill the Emperor » Fri Aug 09, 2013 8:53 pm

The Land of Truth wrote:
Nightkill the Emperor wrote:Because they can care about themselves?

Women are not special. They are people like men. I will happily insult them and befriend them and treat them equally and judge them on their personality merits and circumstance, rather than what genitals they got.

SEXIST!!!!

I am absolutely a mild sexist and a bit of a racist and general cunt, due to my conservative upbringing. I'm trying to get over that and try not to let it influence my behaviour.

Instead, I loathe people not by the colour of their skin (or type of genital), but by the content of their character.
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Postby Hathradic States » Fri Aug 09, 2013 8:54 pm

The Land of Truth wrote:
Hathradic States wrote:Part of why I said "girls". This led to trouble finding a date my own age when I was in highschool. :P That, and far too smart and mature acting IRL for teenage girls.

Ironic, 'cause the girls in my school want nothing but mature guys.

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Postby The French Revolutionaries » Fri Aug 09, 2013 8:54 pm

Torcularis Septentrionalis wrote:
The French Revolutionaries wrote:Hold on, hold on. Why am I sexist for actually caring about women?

If you care about women, then you need to realize that we are not weaklings for you to protect just because we've got an innie and you've got an outie.
Support EMPOWERMENT of women, not treating them like prizes you have to protect from everything.


I care about women. That is why they must be protected. They can protect themselves, they can work for themselves, but I was taught by my own mother to try to prevent this stuff from having to happen. It is not that they are weak or anything like that, it is because they are humans that they are so important.

Our opinions on what it means to care for women are blatantly different.

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Postby The Land of Truth » Fri Aug 09, 2013 8:54 pm

Vitaphone Racing wrote:
The Land of Truth wrote:SEXIST!!!!

Are you actually going to make proper points or just shitpost? The pseudo-ironic one liner is getting old bro, you've done it to death in this thread.

It's a joke, man. Not to mention, I've been making actual posts, yet you seem to have ignored them entirely.
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Postby Torcularis Septentrionalis » Fri Aug 09, 2013 8:54 pm

Hathradic States wrote:
Vitaphone Racing wrote:When they're 15, maybe.

Part of why I said "girls". This led to trouble finding a date my own age when I was in highschool. :P That, and far too smart and mature acting IRL for teenage girls.

Sadly, my boyfriend, who should be the more mature one since he's 8 years older and has kids for fuck's sake, is ridiculously immature and if he starts talking about marriage one more time I'm done.
Why 4 immaturity???
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Postby The Grey Wolf » Fri Aug 09, 2013 8:54 pm

Ostroeuropa wrote:
Torcularis Septentrionalis wrote:If you care about women, then you need to realize that we are not weaklings for you to protect just because we've got an innie and you've got an outie.
Support EMPOWERMENT of women, not treating them like prizes you have to protect from everything.


Why do I need to support the empowerment of women if they are just as good as men?
I'd rather support not giving a shit about if you're a man or a woman. That seems to solve the issue satisfactorily without any potential for overshooting the mark or missing anything out, or far more likely, only empowering white middle class harpies who wont shut the fuck up while leaving the vast majority of women in the shithouse that they can use for leverage.


^ Have a cookie.

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Postby Torcularis Septentrionalis » Fri Aug 09, 2013 8:54 pm

The French Revolutionaries wrote:
Torcularis Septentrionalis wrote:If you care about women, then you need to realize that we are not weaklings for you to protect just because we've got an innie and you've got an outie.
Support EMPOWERMENT of women, not treating them like prizes you have to protect from everything.


I care about women. That is why they must be protected. They can protect themselves, they can work for themselves, but I was taught by my own mother to try to prevent this stuff from having to happen. It is not that they are weak or anything like that, it is because they are humans that they are so important.

Our opinions on what it means to care for women are blatantly different.

Then why don't you protect men in the same way? Why is it just women?
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Postby Pasovo-nacoBo » Fri Aug 09, 2013 8:55 pm

Nightkill the Emperor wrote:
The Land of Truth wrote:SEXIST!!!!

I am absolutely a mild sexist and a bit of a racist and general cunt, due to my conservative upbringing. I'm trying to get over that and try not to let it influence my behaviour.

Instead, I loathe people not by the colour of their skin (or type of genital), but by the content of their character.



True for me, too.
When I was with this girl, I was very sexist, when I wasn't, I supported feminism, yea...

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Postby The French Revolutionaries » Fri Aug 09, 2013 8:55 pm

Stern des Meeres wrote:
The French Revolutionaries wrote:
I was saying that people are willing to fight to the death over that stuff, and since women are people, they are far more valuable. So, one should gladly take up arms and march to their death for the protection of women.

No. One should gladly take up arms and march to their death for the protection of human fucking beings, regardless of gender.
and even then, no one should be forced to take up arms.


Why? That is a cornerstone of honour.

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Postby Vitaphone Racing » Fri Aug 09, 2013 8:55 pm

Hathradic States wrote:
Vitaphone Racing wrote:When they're 15, maybe.

Part of why I said "girls". This led to trouble finding a date my own age when I was in highschool. :P That, and far too smart and mature acting IRL for teenage girls.

Why? Do you think teenage girls don't like smart or mature males?
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Postby United Marxist Nations » Fri Aug 09, 2013 8:55 pm

Pasovo-nacoBo wrote:
The Land of Truth wrote:They're no more valuable than men.

Well, actually.

Theorectically, they DO give us all of our children..so we need them, and they're valuable for that, and contributing to society.

And with sperm preservation technologies, in-vitro fertilization, and cloning, that they don't need us anymore. The only thing saving us is the tight pickle jars.
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Postby The Land of Truth » Fri Aug 09, 2013 8:55 pm

The French Revolutionaries wrote:
Torcularis Septentrionalis wrote:If you care about women, then you need to realize that we are not weaklings for you to protect just because we've got an innie and you've got an outie.
Support EMPOWERMENT of women, not treating them like prizes you have to protect from everything.


I care about women. That is why they must be protected. They can protect themselves, they can work for themselves, but I was taught by my own mother to try to prevent this stuff from having to happen. It is not that they are weak or anything like that, it is because they are humans that they are so important.

Our opinions on what it means to care for women are blatantly different.

Then, why is the fact that they're women at all relevant?
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Postby The Grey Wolf » Fri Aug 09, 2013 8:55 pm

Torcularis Septentrionalis wrote:
Hathradic States wrote:Part of why I said "girls". This led to trouble finding a date my own age when I was in highschool. :P That, and far too smart and mature acting IRL for teenage girls.

Sadly, my boyfriend, who should be the more mature one since he's 8 years older and has kids for fuck's sake, is ridiculously immature and if he starts talking about marriage one more time I'm done.
Why 4 immaturity???


You sound like the immature one.

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Postby Hathradic States » Fri Aug 09, 2013 8:55 pm

Torcularis Septentrionalis wrote:
Hathradic States wrote:Part of why I said "girls". This led to trouble finding a date my own age when I was in highschool. :P That, and far too smart and mature acting IRL for teenage girls.

Sadly, my boyfriend, who should be the more mature one since he's 8 years older and has kids for fuck's sake, is ridiculously immature and if he starts talking about marriage one more time I'm done.
Why 4 immaturity???

Some people never grow up. *shakes head*

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Postby Nightkill the Emperor » Fri Aug 09, 2013 8:56 pm

Torcularis Septentrionalis wrote:
The French Revolutionaries wrote:
I care about women. That is why they must be protected. They can protect themselves, they can work for themselves, but I was taught by my own mother to try to prevent this stuff from having to happen. It is not that they are weak or anything like that, it is because they are humans that they are so important.

Our opinions on what it means to care for women are blatantly different.

Then why don't you protect men in the same way? Why is it just women?

Well, I have a stake in keeping women safe. A lot of camels and land went into this.
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Postby Pasovo-nacoBo » Fri Aug 09, 2013 8:56 pm

Torcularis Septentrionalis wrote:
The French Revolutionaries wrote:
I care about women. That is why they must be protected. They can protect themselves, they can work for themselves, but I was taught by my own mother to try to prevent this stuff from having to happen. It is not that they are weak or anything like that, it is because they are humans that they are so important.

Our opinions on what it means to care for women are blatantly different.

Then why don't you protect men in the same way? Why is it just women?



Simple, society for thousands of years believed men are "expendable" to die, and women are not.

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