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Torcularis Septentrionalis
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Postby Torcularis Septentrionalis » Fri Aug 09, 2013 8:41 pm

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The Land of Truth wrote:No, they're more valuable. Because they're people.


Precisely. That is why.

And we are capable of surviving without your bullshit, thank you. We don't need inherent "protecting." We are not YOURS, and do not compare us to objects.
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Postby The Land of Truth » Fri Aug 09, 2013 8:41 pm

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The Land of Truth wrote:No, they're more valuable. Because they're people.


Precisely. That is why.

Why? They're people, so why should they receive treatment that is different from that of any other person?
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Postby The French Revolutionaries » Fri Aug 09, 2013 8:42 pm

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So women aren't as valuable as all the gold, land, etc. in the world in your opinion? :eyebrow:

As a general proposition, no, no more than any other human being is. And don't you give me the eyebrow, youngling.


Yes, but in my opinion not desiring to protect them sounds like your are sub-humanizing them.

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Postby Torcularis Septentrionalis » Fri Aug 09, 2013 8:42 pm

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Stern des Meeres wrote:Comparing us to objects, then saying we aren't objects? Wow.


Actually, I never said women were objects.

You compared us to objects.
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Postby Stern des Meeres » Fri Aug 09, 2013 8:42 pm

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Stern des Meeres wrote:Basically, yes.

Do you believe it created the universe as well?

Ah, yes. Actually, I think he created the universe and started the ball rolling, which eventually led to the creation of our solar system. Immediately after creation, I think the laws of nature and physics took control.
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Postby The French Revolutionaries » Fri Aug 09, 2013 8:42 pm

Torcularis Septentrionalis wrote:
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Actually, I never said women were objects.

You compared us to objects.


When?

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Postby Pasovo-nacoBo » Fri Aug 09, 2013 8:42 pm

The Parkus Empire wrote:Why do you keep pushing this bullshit when all the women here don't like it? Is that part of being chivalrous?

No, it's called being a modern guy who gets all the ladies.

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Postby Nightkill the Emperor » Fri Aug 09, 2013 8:42 pm

Torcularis Septentrionalis wrote:
The French Revolutionaries wrote:
Precisely. That is why.

And we are capable of surviving without your bullshit, thank you. We don't need inherent "protecting." We are not YOURS, and do not compare us to objects.

So I can't buy you for a camel?
...How about two camels?
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Postby Torcularis Septentrionalis » Fri Aug 09, 2013 8:42 pm

The French Revolutionaries wrote:
Farnhamia wrote:As a general proposition, no, no more than any other human being is. And don't you give me the eyebrow, youngling.


Yes, but in my opinion not desiring to protect them sounds like your are sub-humanizing them.

No, saying we are incapable of doing as good a job at protecting ourselves as men is dehumanizing.
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Postby The Land of Truth » Fri Aug 09, 2013 8:42 pm

The French Revolutionaries wrote:
Farnhamia wrote:As a general proposition, no, no more than any other human being is. And don't you give me the eyebrow, youngling.


Yes, but in my opinion not desiring to protect them sounds like your are sub-humanizing them.

Is it sub-humanizing other men when you don't desire to defend them?
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Postby Farnhamia » Fri Aug 09, 2013 8:43 pm

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Stern des Meeres wrote:Basically, yes.

Do you believe it created the universe as well?

Deism was created by Enlightenment intellectuals in the 17th and 18th centuries, people who couldn't tear themselves away from their Christian upbringing.
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Postby Torcularis Septentrionalis » Fri Aug 09, 2013 8:43 pm

Nightkill the Emperor wrote:
Torcularis Septentrionalis wrote:And we are capable of surviving without your bullshit, thank you. We don't need inherent "protecting." We are not YOURS, and do not compare us to objects.

So I can't buy you for a camel?
...How about two camels?

One male, one female, and a field of corn, and the pussy is open for business.
The Andromeda Islands wrote:This! Is! A! Bad! Idea!
Furious Grandmothers wrote:Why are you talking about murder when we are talking about abortion? Murdering a fetus is impossible. It's like smelling an echo. You're not making sense.



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Postby The Land of Truth » Fri Aug 09, 2013 8:43 pm

Pasovo-nacoBo wrote:
The Parkus Empire wrote:Why do you keep pushing this bullshit when all the women here don't like it? Is that part of being chivalrous?

No, it's called being a modern guy who gets all the ladies.

Dafuq?
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Postby Vitaphone Racing » Fri Aug 09, 2013 8:43 pm

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Stern des Meeres wrote:Comparing us to objects, then saying we aren't objects? Wow.


Actually, I never said women were objects.

Except you're advocating treating them like objects.

And now I've figured out why you're single. It's because you want a girlfriend for the girlfriend experience, not because you actually are in love with a girl. When you stop treating women like items in your inventory, you might have more luck.
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Postby Pasovo-nacoBo » Fri Aug 09, 2013 8:44 pm

Nightkill the Emperor wrote:
Pasovo-nacoBo wrote:Stop hating on this guy!

He is in trouble with "a lady friend" looking for help, not bait for supertrolls.

yes, there are trolls, then there are supertrolls.

I'm a supertroll?

Do I get a costume?

Here, put this on:
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Postby Ostroeuropa » Fri Aug 09, 2013 8:44 pm

Torcularis Septentrionalis wrote:
The French Revolutionaries wrote:
Precisely. That is why.

And we are capable of surviving without your bullshit, thank you. We don't need inherent "protecting." We are not YOURS, and do not compare us to objects.


Frankly if I saw someone in need of help I wouldn't feel the need to check if they had tits before offering assistance.
I'm not going to see someone being mugged and approach then say "Oh, i'm sorry chap you look like a girl from behind. carry on with your business dear muggers." either.

But this attitude you are espousing is contrary to that (slightly) in that its implying that we simply shouldn't help women if we see them in danger.
It's kind of implying that we should check if they have tits and if they do, THEN walk away. Women don't need help after all.

The phrasing should be more
I may need you, as might anyone, to jump in and help if i'm being mugged.
What I don't need from you is to walk me home when you would think it completely absurd to offer the same thing to a man on the grounds of "Danger."
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Postby Torcularis Septentrionalis » Fri Aug 09, 2013 8:44 pm

Pasovo-nacoBo wrote:
The Parkus Empire wrote:Why do you keep pushing this bullshit when all the women here don't like it? Is that part of being chivalrous?

No, it's called being a modern guy who gets all the ladies.

hahahahaha
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The Andromeda Islands wrote:This! Is! A! Bad! Idea!
Furious Grandmothers wrote:Why are you talking about murder when we are talking about abortion? Murdering a fetus is impossible. It's like smelling an echo. You're not making sense.



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Postby Nightkill the Emperor » Fri Aug 09, 2013 8:44 pm

Torcularis Septentrionalis wrote:
Nightkill the Emperor wrote:So I can't buy you for a camel?
...How about two camels?

One male, one female, and a field of corn, and the pussy is open for business.

Capitalism does work.
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Postby Farnhamia » Fri Aug 09, 2013 8:44 pm

Nightkill the Emperor wrote:
Torcularis Septentrionalis wrote:And we are capable of surviving without your bullshit, thank you. We don't need inherent "protecting." We are not YOURS, and do not compare us to objects.

So I can't buy you for a camel?
...How about two camels?

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Postby The French Revolutionaries » Fri Aug 09, 2013 8:44 pm

The Land of Truth wrote:
The French Revolutionaries wrote:
Yes, but in my opinion not desiring to protect them sounds like your are sub-humanizing them.

Is it sub-humanizing other men when you don't desire to defend them?


No, according to Chivalry, an abled bodied man must protect himself. It is his honourable duty.

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Postby The Land of Truth » Fri Aug 09, 2013 8:44 pm

Farnhamia wrote:
The Parkus Empire wrote:Do you believe it created the universe as well?

Deism was created by Enlightenment intellectuals in the 17th and 18th centuries, people who couldn't tear themselves away from their Christian upbringing.

Also, they didn't have all the scientific theories and information we have today, so "goddidit" was still considered a valid argument.
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Postby Shaggai » Fri Aug 09, 2013 8:44 pm

Ostroeuropa wrote:
Shaggai wrote:Each person is different. But in most cases, there's a pretty simple rule to follow.

Wheaton's Law.

There, now you have it all down, except for the subtleties. They include: talk about mutual interests, actually give a crap about your appearance, be confident but not arrogant, and a plethora of things that vary from person to person.

Oh, and be human. It's rather hard to get in a relationship with human girls if you're a crocodile, say, or a hippopotamus. I mean, you can be a unicorn or something, maybe, depending on who you're interested in, but being human generally helps.


You can be a unicorn...
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Postby The Parkus Empire » Fri Aug 09, 2013 8:44 pm

Stern des Meeres wrote:
The Parkus Empire wrote:Do you believe it created the universe as well?

Ah, yes. Actually, I think he created the universe and started the ball rolling, which eventually led to the creation of our solar system. Immediately after creation, I think the laws of nature and physics took control.

Do you consider god a hypothetical fact or as an entity?
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Postby Hathradic States » Fri Aug 09, 2013 8:44 pm

Stern des Meeres wrote:
The Parkus Empire wrote:Do you believe it created the universe as well?

Ah, yes. Actually, I think he created the universe and started the ball rolling, which eventually led to the creation of our solar system. Immediately after creation, I think the laws of nature and physics took control.

Sounds a lot like my beliefs, actually.

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Postby Pasovo-nacoBo » Fri Aug 09, 2013 8:45 pm

Nightkill the Emperor wrote:
Torcularis Septentrionalis wrote:And we are capable of surviving without your bullshit, thank you. We don't need inherent "protecting." We are not YOURS, and do not compare us to objects.

So I can't buy you for a camel?
...How about two camels?

lol.

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