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Postby Fartsniffage » Fri Aug 09, 2013 8:30 pm

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It's really not. Chivalry is mostly about how to treat other men. The women are kinda tacked on at the end in a be a bit nice if they're noble and try not to rape them too hard.


Actually protection of all women is tenet of true chivalry.


In the time when chivalry was actually a thing? Why would protecting chattels be so important?

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Postby The Parkus Empire » Fri Aug 09, 2013 8:30 pm

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Stern des Meeres wrote:Exactly my problem with it. I am not so weak that I need men to protect me.


It's not that women are weak, it's just that women are so infinitely important to the man that they must be protected. It's like protecting a church. It is God's church and He is all powerful, yet it is still the responsibility of chivalrous men to protect His Glory and promote His Kingdom.

It is that women are weak, or else the man wouldn't mind the woman protecting him
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Postby Stern des Meeres » Fri Aug 09, 2013 8:31 pm

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Stern des Meeres wrote:Exactly my problem with it. I am not so weak that I need men to protect me.


It's not that women are weak, it's just that women are so infinitely important to the man that they must be protected. It's like protecting a church. It is God's church and He is all powerful, yet it is still the responsibility of chivalrous men to protect His Glory and promote His Kingdom.

Sorry, you lost me when you went religious.
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Postby Hathradic States » Fri Aug 09, 2013 8:31 pm

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This also works.

Nothing wrong with making the opposition seem weaker. ;)

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Postby The Parkus Empire » Fri Aug 09, 2013 8:31 pm

Fartsniffage wrote:
The French Revolutionaries wrote:
Actually protection of all women is tenet of true chivalry.


In the time when chivalry was actually a thing? Why would protecting chattels be so important?

Why would protecting your Bentley be so important?
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Postby Farnhamia » Fri Aug 09, 2013 8:31 pm

Fartsniffage wrote:
The French Revolutionaries wrote:
Actually protection of all women is tenet of true chivalry.


In the time when chivalry was actually a thing? Why would protecting chattels be so important?

See, when Daddy and the Chattel really love each other, they give each other this special hug, and then then nine months later ...
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Postby The French Revolutionaries » Fri Aug 09, 2013 8:31 pm

The Parkus Empire wrote:
The French Revolutionaries wrote:
It's not that women are weak, it's just that women are so infinitely important to the man that they must be protected. It's like protecting a church. It is God's church and He is all powerful, yet it is still the responsibility of chivalrous men to protect His Glory and promote His Kingdom.

It is that women are weak, or else the man wouldn't mind the woman protecting him


That would be against Chivalry.

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Postby The Land of Truth » Fri Aug 09, 2013 8:31 pm

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The Land of Truth wrote:Not in the Middle Ages.

We're talking about today. Nobody who's chivalrous today engages in death duels over honor

I thought he was talking about the Middle Ages version. :eyebrow:
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Postby The Parkus Empire » Fri Aug 09, 2013 8:32 pm

Stern des Meeres wrote:
The French Revolutionaries wrote:
It's not that women are weak, it's just that women are so infinitely important to the man that they must be protected. It's like protecting a church. It is God's church and He is all powerful, yet it is still the responsibility of chivalrous men to protect His Glory and promote His Kingdom.

Sorry, you lost me when you went religious.

I thought you were religious :?:
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Postby Stern des Meeres » Fri Aug 09, 2013 8:32 pm

The French Revolutionaries wrote:
The Parkus Empire wrote:It is that women are weak, or else the man wouldn't mind the woman protecting him


That would be against Chivalry.

Which would make chivalry inherently sexist, would it not?
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Postby The French Revolutionaries » Fri Aug 09, 2013 8:32 pm

Stern des Meeres wrote:
The French Revolutionaries wrote:
It's not that women are weak, it's just that women are so infinitely important to the man that they must be protected. It's like protecting a church. It is God's church and He is all powerful, yet it is still the responsibility of chivalrous men to protect His Glory and promote His Kingdom.

Sorry, you lost me when you went religious.


Atheist, art thou? :eyebrow:

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Postby The Parkus Empire » Fri Aug 09, 2013 8:32 pm

The French Revolutionaries wrote:
The Parkus Empire wrote:It is that women are weak, or else the man wouldn't mind the woman protecting him


That would be against Chivalry.

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Postby Vitaphone Racing » Fri Aug 09, 2013 8:32 pm

The French Revolutionaries wrote:
Stern des Meeres wrote:Exactly my problem with it. I am not so weak that I need men to protect me.


It's not that women are weak, it's just that women are so infinitely important to the man that they must be protected. It's like protecting a church. It is God's church and He is all powerful, yet it is still the responsibility of chivalrous men to protect His Glory and promote His Kingdom.

Yeah look. If you treat women like they're, you know, people and not objects to be acquired and protected, you might be luckier in love.
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Postby The French Revolutionaries » Fri Aug 09, 2013 8:33 pm

Stern des Meeres wrote:
The French Revolutionaries wrote:
That would be against Chivalry.

Which would make chivalry inherently sexist, would it not?


So is maternity leave. It only applies to women. Does that make it sexist? No.

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Postby The Parkus Empire » Fri Aug 09, 2013 8:33 pm

The Land of Truth wrote:
The Parkus Empire wrote:We're talking about today. Nobody who's chivalrous today engages in death duels over honor

I thought he was talking about the Middle Ages version. :eyebrow:

That doesn't really exist today, except maybe in ass-backward third-world countries, and even then it's just an approximation because they aren't actually following the code itself.
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Postby The Parkus Empire » Fri Aug 09, 2013 8:33 pm

The French Revolutionaries wrote:
Stern des Meeres wrote:Which would make chivalry inherently sexist, would it not?


So is maternity leave. It only applies to women. Does that make it sexist? No.

Where it's longer than a week or two, yes.
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Postby Stern des Meeres » Fri Aug 09, 2013 8:33 pm

The Parkus Empire wrote:
Stern des Meeres wrote:Sorry, you lost me when you went religious.

I thought you were religious :?:

I'm not religious per se, and though I believe in god I don't believe he has any impact beyond creating earth.
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Postby The French Revolutionaries » Fri Aug 09, 2013 8:34 pm

Vitaphone Racing wrote:
The French Revolutionaries wrote:
It's not that women are weak, it's just that women are so infinitely important to the man that they must be protected. It's like protecting a church. It is God's church and He is all powerful, yet it is still the responsibility of chivalrous men to protect His Glory and promote His Kingdom.

Yeah look. If you treat women like they're, you know, people and not objects to be acquired and protected, you might be luckier in love.


It is because they aren't objects is why they ought be protected.

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Postby Stern des Meeres » Fri Aug 09, 2013 8:34 pm

The French Revolutionaries wrote:
Stern des Meeres wrote:Sorry, you lost me when you went religious.


Atheist, art thou? :eyebrow:

Deist, does it matter?
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Postby Torcularis Septentrionalis » Fri Aug 09, 2013 8:34 pm

The French Revolutionaries wrote:
Stern des Meeres wrote:Exactly my problem with it. I am not so weak that I need men to protect me.


It's not that women are weak, it's just that women are so infinitely important to the man that they must be protected. It's like protecting a church. It is God's church and He is all powerful, yet it is still the responsibility of chivalrous men to protect His Glory and promote His Kingdom.

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Postby Farnhamia » Fri Aug 09, 2013 8:34 pm

The French Revolutionaries wrote:
Vitaphone Racing wrote:Yeah look. If you treat women like they're, you know, people and not objects to be acquired and protected, you might be luckier in love.


It is because they aren't objects is why they ought be protected.

That doesn't actually make any sense.
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Postby Fartsniffage » Fri Aug 09, 2013 8:34 pm

The Parkus Empire wrote:
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So what is it these days?

Assuming the role of protector and/or provider, for the most part


See....I don't see it as that. Chivalry to me is looking after your lady friend to the best of your ability. If they need a provider then you provide, if the need a protector then you protect. If they need neither then you do neither but at all times you're there for them if they need it.

And of course, you expect the same in return.

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Postby Torcularis Septentrionalis » Fri Aug 09, 2013 8:35 pm

The French Revolutionaries wrote:
Vitaphone Racing wrote:Yeah look. If you treat women like they're, you know, people and not objects to be acquired and protected, you might be luckier in love.


It is because they aren't objects is why they ought be protected.

No.
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Postby The French Revolutionaries » Fri Aug 09, 2013 8:35 pm

Stern des Meeres wrote:
The French Revolutionaries wrote:
Atheist, art thou? :eyebrow:

Deist, does it matter?


No, just wondering.

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Postby Nightkill the Emperor » Fri Aug 09, 2013 8:35 pm

The French Revolutionaries wrote:
Vitaphone Racing wrote:Yeah look. If you treat women like they're, you know, people and not objects to be acquired and protected, you might be luckier in love.


It is because they aren't objects is why they ought be protected.

How can one sentence be so contradictory?
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