General Girl Advice

[Haakopen]

It isnt that bad.

It just kicks when I talk to girls I really really really like. I will be able to have some short normal conversation but my face will usally be bright red as some of my friends have noticed.

So when you're around someone whose opinion really matters to you, you find yourself more anxious about making a good impression. Sounds pretty normal.

However, my original advice stands. There's no shortcut to this. You either say something, or you don't. You will most likely experience rejection at least once or twice in your lifetime. This, too, is normal. It does not mean there is something wrong with you, and it does not mean there is something wrong with the person who rejects you.

You can choose to not say things to people you like, if that's what you want to do. (Just be careful not to become yet another bitter "Nice Guy" who resents all the women who dare to go out with the "alpha" guys who actually, ya know, ask the girls out in the first place.) You will miss out on opportunities, but you also will avoid rejection. It is up to you whether you want to make that trade.

The Alplha guy term was just hilarious

[The Blaatschapen]

The combination is just hilarious

If it works, I'll take credit. Just redirect the young lady to me. *nod*

She's not some kind of reward that I can just pass on...

[Ethel mermania]

not necessarily, if they clean you up and take you home, then answer the pone when you call to apologize. that girl is the keeper.

I can't decide if that's sage advice or standard Ethel creepiness seeping in again.

i am really not creepy.

[Stern des Meeres]

It isnt that bad.

It just kicks when I talk to girls I really really really like. I will be able to have some short normal conversation but my face will usally be bright red as some of my friends have noticed.

So when you're around someone whose opinion really matters to you, you find yourself more anxious about making a good impression. Sounds pretty normal.

However, my original advice stands. There's no shortcut to this. You either say something, or you don't. You will most likely experience rejection at least once or twice in your lifetime. This, too, is normal. It does not mean there is something wrong with you, and it does not mean there is something wrong with the person who rejects you.

You can choose to not say things to people you like, if that's what you want to do. (Just be careful not to become yet another bitter "Nice Guy" who resents all the women who dare to go out with the "alpha" guys who actually, ya know, ask the girls out in the first place.) You will miss out on opportunities, but you also will avoid rejection. It is up to you whether you want to make that trade.

Another thing: if you do nothing, nothing will happen. It's only logical that you do something, because if you don't, you are almost guaranteed not to "get the girl." Take a chance.

[Galloism]

It isnt that bad.

It just kicks when I talk to girls I really really really like. I will be able to have some short normal conversation but my face will usally be bright red as some of my friends have noticed.

So when you're around someone whose opinion really matters to you, you find yourself more anxious about making a good impression. Sounds pretty normal.

However, my original advice stands. There's no shortcut to this. You either say something, or you don't. You will most likely experience rejection at least once or twice in your lifetime. This, too, is normal. It does not mean there is something wrong with you, and it does not mean there is something wrong with the person who rejects you.

You can choose to not say things to people you like, if that's what you want to do. (Just be careful not to become yet another bitter "Nice Guy" who resents all the women who dare to go out with the "alpha" guys who actually, ya know, ask the girls out in the first place.) You will miss out on opportunities, but you also will avoid rejection. It is up to you whether you want to make that trade.

I don't know about other people, but I used to be so extremely shy in general, but particularly around women, that it was almost impossible to hold a conversation.

First time I had sex, I got over my shyness literally overnight. Now I'm just out there (some would argue that's worse), take it or leave it.


My Advice to all: once you're 18, if you haven't yet tried my solution, travel to Nevada or <legal prostitution destination in your area>, hire a prostitute, and do it. Use protection.

If it works, congratulations! Now you're not shy.

If it doesn't, congratulations! You just had sex.

[Nightkill the Emperor]

If it works, I'll take credit. Just redirect the young lady to me. *nod*

She's not some kind of reward that I can just pass on...

What? No, I just want to have a chat with her and inform her that you're a Generalite, a serious medical condition. Could even be genetic.

[Northern Dominus]

Shit or get off the pot.

There's no shortcut. There is no way to avoid the possibility of rejection. She might love you back, or she might not, so talk to her about it if you want to find out.

In practise this cant work especially if you have Level 4 shyness where the only thing you can say to a girl is hello when you meet face to face.

So then quit going in with expectations. Don't go in with a plan at all. Freestyle, just talk, let her lead and pay attention to her damn interests rather than focus on your own ambitions. You'd be surprised where this gets you.

So then that begs the question... would you? A WNBA player I mean?

Depends on which one. And if she fits my standards and preferences.

Ah yes "your" standards. Which is what Bottle was referencing in the first place. Lemme guess...not feminine enough? Not fitting the obligatory "looks like a woman" standards? Or what exactly is the problem with say Sharnee Zoll or Swin Cash who are clearly very healthy and quite striking physical specimens and are rather personable to boot (amazing who you'll run into here in Chicago)?

[Dyakovo]

If your shyness only kicks in when talking to girls, then you have a lot of growing up to do before you will be ready to have a relationship.

It isnt that bad.

It just kicks when I talk to girls I really really really like. I will be able to have some short normal conversation but my face will usally be bright red as some of my friends have noticed.

Hit on guys instead then.

[Haakopen]

So when you're around someone whose opinion really matters to you, you find yourself more anxious about making a good impression. Sounds pretty normal.

However, my original advice stands. There's no shortcut to this. You either say something, or you don't. You will most likely experience rejection at least once or twice in your lifetime. This, too, is normal. It does not mean there is something wrong with you, and it does not mean there is something wrong with the person who rejects you.

You can choose to not say things to people you like, if that's what you want to do. (Just be careful not to become yet another bitter "Nice Guy" who resents all the women who dare to go out with the "alpha" guys who actually, ya know, ask the girls out in the first place.) You will miss out on opportunities, but you also will avoid rejection. It is up to you whether you want to make that trade.

Another thing: if you do nothing, nothing will happen. It's only logical that you do something, because if you don't, you are almost guaranteed not to "get the girl." Take a chance.

Most girls in my school just like the cool bad-boy dude who will usually mock a nerd or too.

So...yeah it's not like I have chances and I dont take them.

[Haakopen]

It isnt that bad.

It just kicks when I talk to girls I really really really like. I will be able to have some short normal conversation but my face will usally be bright red as some of my friends have noticed.

Hit on guys instead then.

Nope. Just nope.

[Dyakovo]

I can't decide if that's sage advice or standard Ethel creepiness seeping in again.

i am really not creepy.

Since when?

[Galloism]

It isnt that bad.

It just kicks when I talk to girls I really really really like. I will be able to have some short normal conversation but my face will usally be bright red as some of my friends have noticed.

Hit on guys instead then.

...

Here I thought I was being funny, then you come and steal the show.

[Dyakovo]

Hit on guys instead then.

Nope. Just nope.

Consider it practice.

[Microsol]

You should try blackmail. Girls love blackmail.

[Solarys]

Ah yes "your" standards. Which is what Bottle was referencing in the first place. Lemme guess...not feminine enough? Not fitting the obligatory "looks like a woman" standards? Or what exactly is the problem with say Sharnee Zoll or Swin Cash who are clearly very healthy and quite striking physical specimens and are rather personable to boot (amazing who you'll run into here in Chicago)?

Yep, those standards. But criticizing someone for things like that is like criticizing a gay person for liking people of the same sex. You can't choose who you are attracted to.

You don't go upto a homosexual male and say "you don't like her ? why ? she doesn't have a penis or is not masculine enough for you ?" or something like that.

[Haakopen]

Nope. Just nope.

Consider it practice.

......

Seeing the stuff people actually suggest here I cant determinate if this is trolling or actual advice.

Oh, @%$@%& that, it's trolling.

[The Blaatschapen]

I can't decide if that's sage advice or standard Ethel creepiness seeping in again.

i am really not creepy.

That's true.

Ethel stalked me for a while, but never overtly too much. He was totally non-creepy in it.

[Stern des Meeres]

Another thing: if you do nothing, nothing will happen. It's only logical that you do something, because if you don't, you are almost guaranteed not to "get the girl." Take a chance.

Most girls in my school just like the cool bad-boy dude who will usually mock a nerd or too.

So...yeah it's not like I have chances and I dont take them.

Teenagers, ja. Though there are a fair number of us who do like nerdy guys. We're out there, just keep looking.

[Bottle]

So when you're around someone whose opinion really matters to you, you find yourself more anxious about making a good impression. Sounds pretty normal.

However, my original advice stands. There's no shortcut to this. You either say something, or you don't. You will most likely experience rejection at least once or twice in your lifetime. This, too, is normal. It does not mean there is something wrong with you, and it does not mean there is something wrong with the person who rejects you.

You can choose to not say things to people you like, if that's what you want to do. (Just be careful not to become yet another bitter "Nice Guy" who resents all the women who dare to go out with the "alpha" guys who actually, ya know, ask the girls out in the first place.) You will miss out on opportunities, but you also will avoid rejection. It is up to you whether you want to make that trade.

The Alplha guy term was just hilarious

I cannot take credit for that, haha, there is a whole subculture that defines human interaction with this letter system. It's basically a way to take the high school stereotypes and make them sound sciencey and legit.

Alpha = Quarterback of the football team, homecoming king.
Beta = The Everyman fellow who is totally smart and cool and way nicer than any of the stupid jocks, but the cheerleaders are too stuck up to recognize that he's totally the best guy around because girls are stupid and bitchy.
Omega = The nerds who aren't cool-nerdy, and who the betas can point to in order to establish that they, the betas, aren't, like, nerdy nerds.

[Northern Dominus]

Ah yes "your" standards. Which is what Bottle was referencing in the first place. Lemme guess...not feminine enough? Not fitting the obligatory "looks like a woman" standards? Or what exactly is the problem with say Sharnee Zoll or Swin Cash who are clearly very healthy and quite striking physical specimens and are rather personable to boot (amazing who you'll run into here in Chicago)?

Yep, those standards. But criticizing someone for things like that is like criticizing a gay person for liking people of the same sex. You can't choose who you are attracted to.

You don't go upto a homosexual male and say "you don't like her ? why ? she doesn't have a penis or is not masculine enough for you ?" or something like that.

Erm.. not exactly since sexual orientation is most likely not a choice. And that's a false equivelency anyway, you're conflating basic attraction with stringent standards.

[Werbittarthinyu]

hi

[Galloism]

The Alplha guy term was just hilarious

I cannot take credit for that, haha, there is a whole subculture that defines human interaction with this letter system. It's basically a way to take the high school stereotypes and make them sound sciencey and legit.

Alpha = Quarterback of the football team, homecoming king.
Beta = The Everyman fellow who is totally smart and cool and way nicer than any of the stupid jocks, but the cheerleaders are too stuck up to recognize that he's totally the best guy around because girls are stupid and bitchy.
Omega = The nerds who aren't cool-nerdy, and who the betas can point to in order to establish that they, the betas, aren't, like, nerdy nerds.

Wait, when did we add a new class of nerd?

Why wasn't I told?

[Dyakovo]

Consider it practice.

......

Seeing the stuff people actually suggest here I cant determinate if this is trolling or actual advice.

Oh, @%$@%& that, it's trolling.

No, it's actual advice. You obviously need to work on your flirting skills, and are apparently to uncomfortable with girls to try it on them.

[Haakopen]

The Alplha guy term was just hilarious

I cannot take credit for that, haha, there is a whole subculture that defines human interaction with this letter system. It's basically a way to take the high school stereotypes and make them sound sciencey and legit.

Alpha = Quarterback of the football team, homecoming king.
Beta = The Everyman fellow who is totally smart and cool and way nicer than any of the stupid jocks, but the cheerleaders are too stuck up to recognize that he's totally the best guy around because girls are stupid and bitchy.
Omega = The nerds who aren't cool-nerdy, and who the betas can point to in order to establish that they, the betas, aren't, like, nerdy nerds.

Oh please, who likes Cheerleaders?

OK that was a lie.

[Northern Dominus]

I cannot take credit for that, haha, there is a whole subculture that defines human interaction with this letter system. It's basically a way to take the high school stereotypes and make them sound sciencey and legit.

Alpha = Quarterback of the football team, homecoming king.
Beta = The Everyman fellow who is totally smart and cool and way nicer than any of the stupid jocks, but the cheerleaders are too stuck up to recognize that he's totally the best guy around because girls are stupid and bitchy.
Omega = The nerds who aren't cool-nerdy, and who the betas can point to in order to establish that they, the betas, aren't, like, nerdy nerds.

Wait, when did we add a new class of nerd?

Why wasn't I told?

Notice how there's no category for those of us who are jockish and nerdy simultaneously