What Happens When we die?

[The Land of Truth]

1. Then, it's fiction.
2. I meant document before the Gospels that say something about Jesus.
2. Da fuck? "bullet"?
5. How do you know it's the Devil?

1. Still your opinion. I can accept it as fact with what I know without using scientific validation if I so chose.
2. http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/c ... px-P46.jpg
There you go, good luck reading it.
5. Because all Malevolence has its source as the tempter as its originator. Humanity will sin and be malevolent in the presence of temptation absent the restraint of will, and even then it will still fail to some temptations, but all malevolence begins with the Devil who has chosen to be the antithesis of all that is defined as righteous by God and who tests humanity every day of its existence.

1. No, you really can't.
2. Nice try. For all I know, that could say, "Free Slurpees here!" Get something I can actually read.
5. How do you know it's the Devil? Maybe it's Angra Mainyu? Or Loki? Maybe it's just Zeus fuckin' with you?

[Dragonisia]

1. I'm right because there's enough circumstantial evidence to convince me. Science is a far from perfect art in its current state. There are things we cannot measure, cannot perceive, and the assumption that something is not there simply because we cannot see it goes back to the days when Air was "nothing" because we saw through it and we passed through it with ease.

Well, here's the thing. Until evidence of the supernatural comes along, real, verifiable evidence, I'll change my mind. Until then, no is my default position.

Then you will never change your mind. Because the supposition in this case is there is an all powerful being using life as a lithmus test for the human will, and if it interferes in a direct fashion it spoils the results of the test. It already knows everything, including all of your potential choices.. and what you will even finally choose, but you still have to be given the chance to make your choices in order to retain its position as a righteous adjudicator by its own moral standards. You aren't a sinner until you sin. You're not saved from that sin until you are saved.

That said, you will never have that evidence.

[The Land of Truth]

If by "entirely fiction", you mean single bit was made up, then of course not. There's no such thing as that.

But the stories themselves are, as far as the evidence is concerned, completely fictional accounts.

Okay, what are we talking about? Old Testament creation myths and the stories of the Exodus? Fiction, sure. Mythology. The deportation of the Jews to Babylonia? True. The return of the exiles to Jerusalem? True. Told from a Jewish point of view but still true. Paul's letters to various congregations in Corinth and Galatia and Philippi and Thessalonika? The best modern scholarship say they're authentic, along with the letter to the Romans and the one to Philemon. The rest are questionable to differing degrees.

What part of "the stories themselves" didn't you get?

[Dangelia]

Humans have three parts if you will, body, spirit (mind), and soul.

That still didnt answer my question.

What evidence or proof is there for the soul?

Read: http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/bio ... e-says-yes

[Nanatsu no Tsuki]

Body begins to decompose. Natural process and all.

Once upon a time Sir William Gilbert was at a party where the conversation turned to a composer of some note who had recently died. An earnest young person, who had obviously not heard the news, enthused, "What is he doing? Composing, surely!" To which Gilbert said, "No, decomposing."

And I agree, Nanatsu.

Nice answer. But essentially, yes. That's what happens when a living creature dies. Our remains decompose.

Now, if its a more esoteric question, the destiny of the soul and whathaveyou? I don't know.

[Mavorpen]

That said, you will never have that evidence.

Of course not. It's bullshit.

[Farnhamia]

Well, here's the thing. Until evidence of the supernatural comes along, real, verifiable evidence, I'll change my mind. Until then, no is my default position.

Then you will never change your mind. Because the supposition in this case is there is an all powerful being using life as a lithmus test for the human will, and if it interferes in a direct fashion it spoils the results of the test. It already knows everything, including all of your potential choices.. and what you will even finally choose, but you still have to be given the chance to make your choices in order to retain its position as a righteous adjudicator by its own moral standards. You aren't a sinner until you sin. You're not saved from that sin until you are saved.

That said, you will never have that evidence.

Well, then I won't change my mind. That doesn't bother me, not in the least.

[The Land of Truth]

1. "IM RIGHT BECAUSE I KNOW I AM"

1. I'm right because there's enough circumstantial evidence to convince me. Science is a far from perfect art in its current state. There are things we cannot measure, cannot perceive, and the assumption that something is not there simply because we cannot see it goes back to the days when Air was "nothing" because we saw through it and we passed through it with ease.

1. Circumstantial evidence is not evidence (not good evidence, anyway).
2. No, science isn't perfect. What does that have to do with anything?
3. We can actually prove air exists, though.

[Tlaceceyaya]

Well, here's the thing. Until evidence of the supernatural comes along, real, verifiable evidence, I'll change my mind. Until then, no is my default position.

Then you will never change your mind. Because the supposition in this case is there is an all powerful being using life as a lithmus test for the human will, and if it interferes in a direct fashion it spoils the results of the test. It already knows everything, including all of your potential choices.. and what you will even finally choose, but you still have to be given the chance to make your choices in order to retain its position as a righteous adjudicator by its own moral standards. You aren't a sinner until you sin. You're not saved from that sin until you are saved.

That said, you will never have that evidence.

1: Far from that. An evidence-based approach means that whatever evidence shows up can change beliefs, as opposed to blind faith which stubbornly denies evidence.
2: Then that all powerful being is an asshole. It's like walking up to someone, telling them they've failed your test, and then shooting them. Without them ever knowing about your test.

[Blasveck]

That still didnt answer my question.

What evidence or proof is there for the soul?

Read: http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/bio ... e-says-yes

Any follow-up tests?

Or was this a one time thing in 2011?

[Farnhamia]

That still didnt answer my question.

What evidence or proof is there for the soul?

Read: http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/bio ... e-says-yes

Biocentrism? Uh huh. Until Lanza comes up with some experimental results that can be reproduced, no.

[The Land of Truth]

Well, here's the thing. Until evidence of the supernatural comes along, real, verifiable evidence, I'll change my mind. Until then, no is my default position.

Then you will never change your mind. Because the supposition in this case is there is an all powerful being using life as a lithmus test for the human will, and if it interferes in a direct fashion it spoils the results of the test. It already knows everything, including all of your potential choices.. and what you will even finally choose, but you still have to be given the chance to make your choices in order to retain its position as a righteous adjudicator by its own moral standards. You aren't a sinner until you sin. You're not saved from that sin until you are saved.

That said, you will never have that evidence.

Having evidence for God's existence affects freewill in no way, whatsoever.

[Kulverint]

I, too, have contemplated this thought. I honestly cannot know. All evidence to me suggests that upon death one goes back to the conscious state they had before birth. I can't imagine a way anything otherwise could be the case.

That said, the idea that I'll die and be greeted by some kind of afterlife would certainly more than comfort me immediately before death, and I take solace when I think about this in the hope that I might be wrong.

[Ertae]

Probably nothing.

[Blasveck]

Well, here's the thing. Until evidence of the supernatural comes along, real, verifiable evidence, I'll change my mind. Until then, no is my default position.

Then you will never change your mind. Because the supposition in this case is there is an all powerful being using life as a lithmus test for the human will, and if it interferes in a direct fashion it spoils the results of the test. It already knows everything, including all of your potential choices.. and what you will even finally choose, but you still have to be given the chance to make your choices in order to retain its position as a righteous adjudicator by its own moral standards. You aren't a sinner until you sin. You're not saved from that sin until you are saved.

That said, you will never have that evidence.

This is OT, but why exactly do I need to be saved from sin?
What makes sin inherently a bad thing?

And what evidence won't we have?

[Dragonisia]

1. No, you really can't.
2. Nice try. For all I know, that could say, "Free Slurpees here!" Get something I can actually read.
5. How do you know it's the Devil? Maybe it's Angra Mainyu? Or Loki? Maybe it's just Zeus fuckin' with you?

1. Yes, I can.
2. That's one of Paul's epistles. It can be read, sorry you don't understand it.
5. Because the nature of the universe is to uniform to indicate a muti-deific structure. It appears to indicate one originating author and one source of malfeasance acting in polarity.

[Blasveck]

1. No, you really can't.
2. Nice try. For all I know, that could say, "Free Slurpees here!" Get something I can actually read.
5. How do you know it's the Devil? Maybe it's Angra Mainyu? Or Loki? Maybe it's just Zeus fuckin' with you?

1. Yes, I can.
2. That's one of Paul's epistles. It can be read, sorry you don't understand it.
5. Because the nature of the universe is to uniform to indicate a muti-deific structure. It appears to indicate one originating author and one source of malfeasance acting in polarity.

Evidence for this "multi-deific" structure?

[The Land of Truth]

1. No, you really can't.
2. Nice try. For all I know, that could say, "Free Slurpees here!" Get something I can actually read.
5. How do you know it's the Devil? Maybe it's Angra Mainyu? Or Loki? Maybe it's just Zeus fuckin' with you?

1. Yes, I can.
2. That's one of Paul's epistles. It can be read, sorry you don't understand it.
5. Because the nature of the universe is to uniform to indicate a muti-deific structure. It appears to indicate one originating author and one source of malfeasance acting in polarity.

1. Then you're deluding yourself.
2. I don't speak Greek. Neither do you. So quite trying to be cute and actually provide something that can be read by the both of us.
5. And how do you know they're not Ahura Mazda and Angra Mainyu, respectively?

[Teodosia]

From my observed understanding, these series of events take place:
- Brain activity ceases, you are now officially dead.
- Close relatives and friends mourn your passing, for the weeks to come you will be thought of in only a positive light.
- A burial, or ceremony pertinent to your faith or that of your married partner will take place, forgoing either of these I'm sure it's in your will somewhere (space cannon anyone?).
- You will rest within a wooden box (or have already been reduced to a fine carbon powder) until natural decay takes its place. Based on the construction of your particular coffin, this time varies.
- Time passes, visitors still lay tributes to the impact your life had on theirs on your grave, hand picked testaments to your greatness.
- Time continues to pass, the visitors stop, or have all passed on themselves, you become an unknown tomb amidst an unknown world.
- Many billions of years later, the Sun turns into a Red Giant, engulfing the Earth in a firestorm, eradicating all life.

Cheers!

[Trelso]

1. Yes, I can.
2. That's one of Paul's epistles. It can be read, sorry you don't understand it.
5. Because the nature of the universe is to uniform to indicate a muti-deific structure. It appears to indicate one originating author and one source of malfeasance acting in polarity.

1. Then you're deluding yourself.
2. I don't speak Greek. Neither do you. So quite trying to be cute and actually provide something that can be read by the both of us.
5. And how do you know they're not Ahura Mazda and Angra Mainyu, respectively?

Just a point, I'm pretty sure that's Hebrew not Greek.

[Katganistan]

What happens after you die? Is there some sort of after life or do you completely cease to exist forever? Do you reincarnate into another living thing? Are scared to die?

The only thing I have seen with my own eyes is that you cease to breathe, your heart ceases to beat, you sigh out your last breath, and grow progressively colder and turn greyish as time passes.

I assume that unless embalmed or cremated, one begins to rot fairly quickly -- within five days to a week, dependent on the temperature and the level of humidity.

[Miopic]

Now it is such a bizarrely impossible coincidence that anything so mind-bogglingly useful could have evolved purely by chance that some thinkers have chosen to see it as a final and clinching proof of the nonexistence of God. The arguement goes something like this:


"I refuse to prove that I exist," says God, "for proof denies faith, and without faith I am nothing."
"But," say Man, "the human race is a dead giveaway, isn't it? It could not have evolved by chance. It proves you exist, and so therefore, by your own arguments, you don't. QED."
"Oh dear," says God, "I hadn't though of that" and promply vanishes in a puff of logic.
Douglas Adams- Hitchhikers guide to the galaxy

[Katganistan]

Now it is such a bizarrely impossible coincidence that anything so mind-bogglingly useful could have evolved purely by chance that some thinkers have chosen to see it as a final and clinching proof of the nonexistence of God. The arguement goes something like this:


"I refuse to prove that I exist," says God, "for proof denies faith, and without faith I am nothing."
"But," say Man, "the human race is a dead giveaway, isn't it? It could not have evolved by chance. It proves you exist, and so therefore, by your own arguments, you don't. QED."
"Oh dear," says God, "I hadn't though of that" and promply vanishes in a puff of logic.

Douglas Adams would object to your plagiarizing "The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy" were he not dead, so I'll do it for him.

[Neo Rome Republic]

I didn't exist before I was born, why would I after I die.

[Tlaceceyaya]

What happens after you die? Is there some sort of after life or do you completely cease to exist forever? Do you reincarnate into another living thing? Are scared to die?

The only thing I have seen with my own eyes is that you cease to breathe, your heart ceases to beat, you sigh out your last breath, and grow progressively colder and turn greyish as time passes.

I assume that unless embalmed or cremated, one begins to rot fairly quickly -- within five days to a week, dependent on the temperature and the level of humidity.

More quickly than that, especially if outside.