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Postby Olthar » Wed Aug 07, 2013 2:35 am

Hathradic States wrote:
Olthar wrote:You get stuffed into a box and chucked in the ground.

No. I'm being turned into wolf chow.

It's in my will. :meh:

Well, then you'll get eaten by wolves.
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Postby Nationalist State of Knox » Wed Aug 07, 2013 2:35 am

Tyriece wrote:
Nationalist State of Knox wrote:We do know what happens, and that's nothing.


Nothing dose not exist.
To better understand this read tho this http://www.nbcnews.com/science/what-not ... -1B9044094

Yes, I know about quantum vacuums, virtual particles etc etc.

However, we're talking about nothing as an action, not a state.
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Postby Hallistar » Wed Aug 07, 2013 2:36 am

After reaching information-theoretic death, everything that defined your personality/memories/sentience/consciousness, etc would permanently cease to function. Outside of the concept of a "soul", there would be no reason to believe that anything metaphysical would actively occur to your consciousness.
You would not be able to tell you were not existing anymore mentally. It is not some kind of "void" or sensory-deprived feeling of paralyzation, as some seem to believe.

Once ways of replicating a person's brain atleast physically or in some kind of computational-based state are developed, then there might not necessarily need to be a worry about losing everything that defined you. Of course, it would be like replicating a harddrive with the same data. You have two harddrives with the same data -- both function the same, yet are physically seperate. Then you get into the debates about is the person replicated really you, etc.
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The Parkus Empire wrote:We go back to how we were before birth

Dead people get turned into fetuses? The horror! :eek:
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Postby The Parkus Empire » Wed Aug 07, 2013 2:38 am

Olthar wrote:
The Parkus Empire wrote:We go back to how we were before birth

Dead people get turned into fetuses? The horror! :eek:

Pretty sure it's a question of consciousness. Everyone knows what happens to your body after you die.
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Postby Olthar » Wed Aug 07, 2013 2:40 am

The Parkus Empire wrote:
Olthar wrote:Dead people get turned into fetuses? The horror! :eek:

Pretty sure it's a question of consciousness. Everyone knows what happens to your body after you die.

Too late. I'm already imagining a video game where when you shoot people, they turn into fetuses and fall to the ground.

FETALITY!
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At the moment? Don't know, don't care.
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Postby The Parkus Empire » Wed Aug 07, 2013 3:01 am

Olthar wrote:
The Parkus Empire wrote:Pretty sure it's a question of consciousness. Everyone knows what happens to your body after you die.

Too late. I'm already imagining a video game where when you shoot people, they turn into fetuses and fall to the ground.

FETALITY!

Aw shit! *capcapcap* Imma abort your ass, fool!
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Postby Ermarian » Wed Aug 07, 2013 3:01 am

The information that you consist of gradually dissipates over hours, as your brain undergoes autolysis and decomposition. Not to be a downer, but that's it.
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Postby Cameroi » Wed Aug 07, 2013 3:05 am

people other then ourselves will observe the physical form we previously occupied begin to deteriorate. that is as much as can be observed to happen.

to anyone else. when we do.

exactly the same, as any other living organism, when "its time" has come.

that is thus as much as we can say "is known".

but we know also, that the sum of human knowledge is not infinite, nor equal to all that may exit. the sum total of human knowledge is not the total of all knowledge.

i can be readily observed by anyone, that reality is never limited by what we know, let alone by what we think we know.

i don't know if the phrasing of the question was intentional. certainly the more interesting question, and the one more people are likely to conclude was intended to be asked, is what do WE, individually experience, when our physical form ceases to function, and thus ceases to provide a home, or connection to physical existence, for our nonphysical awareness.

all answers to this latter, are of course, for the most part speculative.
even the claim of complete and perminent ceasation of awareness, is also speculative and unprovable, as the true nature of our awareness is itself unprovable.

i can only offer my own speculation, with which some beliefs may agree, and others not.

and that is that at some random place, on some random world, on which sapient life exist, an infant will be born, at some random point in time, after our physical demise here, who will, in every practical sense, again be, ourselves. in all probability, with little or no reason, at first, to even suspect, the existence of past lives.

it is even possible, that some, completely nonphysical setting may exist, that is in some what experienced between physical lives.

as the infant grows into a child, and later adolescence and adulthood, they may or may not become aware of inclinations and limitations, inhierent in their perceptions, having no obvious origin in their present lives. these, i am inclined to suspect, are a legacy of previous lives, which intern leads me to the speculation, that death is no more eternal then life.

as for the elaborate claims of 'afterlives' and what takes place in them, rewards and punishments and eternity, i can perceive no other basis for their invention, then the hope that such beliefs will prompt people, to be more considerate toward each other, and to the kind of world their actions, create for each other, in the here and now, to have to live in.
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Postby Nevanmaa » Wed Aug 07, 2013 3:05 am

Most likely nothing.
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Postby Petrovsegratsk » Wed Aug 07, 2013 3:07 am

We go to Heaven/Hell, we're reborn or nothing happens.

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Postby Escasia » Wed Aug 07, 2013 3:10 am

I don't know, I've never died.
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Postby De La Fleur » Wed Aug 07, 2013 3:11 am

Tyriece wrote:
De La Fleur wrote:you just disappear through a void of nothingness


Nothing dose not exist.

it does exist
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Postby Nueva Zapatista » Wed Aug 07, 2013 3:16 am

Zottistan wrote:At the moment? Don't know, don't care.


That has nothing to do with the OP. Come back when you care.

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Postby GrandKirche » Wed Aug 07, 2013 3:18 am

A bunch of people, ranging from family and friends to that guy you went to school with who was always a little over-friendly, are crammed into a church/crematorium/non-denominational chapel/boat/whatever where as many good/vague/anything but about that prison sentence things about you as possible are said by people who are crying/smiling/drunk until the priest/relative/undertaker declares its time for free food and drink/awkward talking to relatives/getting out as the next lot are coming in whereupon people drink/eat/disperse whilst enjoying the reunion/avoiding people they hate/avoiding people who hate them/avoiding the detective about to announce who the killer was before all going home and reminiscing/forgetting you/burning evidence whilst you watch from a cloud/rot/smoulder

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Postby Beiluxia » Wed Aug 07, 2013 3:21 am

I don't know, and quite frankly I don't think anybody else alive knows either.
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Postby Zottistan » Wed Aug 07, 2013 3:28 am

Nueva Zapatista wrote:
Zottistan wrote:At the moment? Don't know, don't care.


That has nothing to do with the OP. Come back when you care.

That has quite a bit to do with the OP, because when people obsess over pointless questions that nobody can answer, it wastes time and harms humanity.
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GrandKirche wrote:A bunch of people, ranging from family and friends to that guy you went to school with who was always a little over-friendly, are crammed into a church/crematorium/non-denominational chapel/boat/whatever where as many good/vague/anything but about that prison sentence things about you as possible are said by people who are crying/smiling/drunk until the priest/relative/undertaker declares its time for free food and drink/awkward talking to relatives/getting out as the next lot are coming in whereupon people drink/eat/disperse whilst enjoying the reunion/avoiding people they hate/avoiding people who hate them/avoiding the detective about to announce who the killer was before all going home and reminiscing/forgetting you/burning evidence whilst you watch from a cloud/rot/smoulder

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i rather like this. a good wake is a good way to celibrate someone. even if they were an absolute bastard.

and it is on topic for the question that was actually asked. which may or may not have been the one intended to have been.
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Postby Oceasia » Wed Aug 07, 2013 3:37 am

Yeah, i don't really think i want to know.
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Postby Esternial » Wed Aug 07, 2013 3:43 am

I'd ask Bottle, maybe she knows something about this subject. She studied neurophysiology.

As for my own take on the subject, I'd guess that your brain shuts down and your consciousness ceases to exists, but perhaps it's more complicated than that. As we know, time is relative depending on the observer, so perhaps time will slow down from your own point of perception as your brain shuts down, making those moments of your death last infinitely, where you experience the sensation of your brain as it is gradually being deprived of oxygen.

Or not. I'm just guessing.

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Postby Risottia » Wed Aug 07, 2013 4:22 am

Desocia wrote:What happens after you die?

Most people will go on, some people will be sad for a short while.

Is there some sort of after life

No. Just a small aprés vie for a selected few, the plebs and the parvenus can get the fuck out.

or do you completely cease to exist forever?

As a person, yeah.
As a body, decomposition takes some time. So does cremation.

Do you reincarnate into another living thing?

There's no "me" after my death anyway. So the very question is utterly nonsensical.

Are scared to die?

No. It's just a simple fact of life, it can happen to any one. You win - you lose, it's a chance you have to take with life. Oh yeah - I was alive, but now you say it's over and I'm falling apart, yeah yeah, it's a hard life...
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Postby Lemonius » Wed Aug 07, 2013 4:28 am

I don't really know, I presume nothing; the concept of nothing is difficult to comprehend, to fathom a state of "nothing" is hard for me.
I greatly dislike the unknown, and nothingness, hence why I generally avoid considering what happens after death.
I would still say "nothing", in a heartbeat, however.

EDIT: I mean nothing as in consciousness, or afterlife. Not as in physcial processes, because that's quite obvious.
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