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Postby Desocia » Wed Aug 07, 2013 1:23 am

I have sat down and thought about this for hours on end with no conclusion. I am an atheist but it is hard for my brain to register that all humans completely cease to exist when they die. It is easy to believe that when you die, you go to some magical world but I think that is a illogical way of thinking and understanding things. It is very unknown whether or not such a place exists and I think that is what scares me. I don't think anyone has a good understanding of what happens when a person dies, but I am going to throw it out there for NSG to discuss.

What happens after you die? Is there some sort of after life or do you completely cease to exist forever? Do you reincarnate into another living thing? Are scared to die?
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Postby Hathradic States » Wed Aug 07, 2013 1:24 am

I really don't want to know.

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Postby Blasveck » Wed Aug 07, 2013 1:24 am

This will ultimately end up as a Religion vs Atheism thread, no offense.

Personally?

I honestly don't know.
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Postby Desocia » Wed Aug 07, 2013 1:26 am

Have you ever thought about it? Are you afraid to die?
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Postby Hathradic States » Wed Aug 07, 2013 1:29 am

Desocia wrote:Have you ever thought about it? Are you afraid to die?

Yes.

I used to not be. Then I got engaged, have friends who love me now, and people who depend on me. Now, I really like living.

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Postby Cabra West » Wed Aug 07, 2013 1:30 am

Traditionally, you're either put underground or burned. In some traditions you would be left to feed vultures.

Either way, unless your ashes are kept on someone's mantlepiece, you return the nutrients you borrowed during your lifetime back into the circle of eat-and-be-eaten by either feeding plants or animals.
So, while your conscious self does cease to exist, the stuff you're made of will live on.
I quite like how neat this is.
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Postby Meridiani Planum » Wed Aug 07, 2013 1:30 am

Desocia wrote:What happens after you die? Is there some sort of after life or do you completely cease to exist forever? Do you reincarnate into another living thing? I am sure many of you have divided opinions.


I doubt that "you" survive as the unique "person" that you are. No personal afterlife, period.

At best, the universe carries on with living beings that generate conscious awareness in themselves. I don't believe that "you" reincarnate as another being, because there is no more "you" after death. But conscious awareness as such carries on. If you don't have a soul that is extinguished (and I don't believe in souls), perhaps we are all just fragments of the universe's generation of conscious awareness, and as part of this process, the process continues after we as individuals are no more.

Have you ever thought about it? Are you afraid to die?


Yes, but I am not afraid to die, even if death really is a completely final end, which I think for all practical purposes it is.
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Postby Divair » Wed Aug 07, 2013 1:31 am

Desocia wrote:Have you ever thought about it? Are you afraid to die?

Yes.

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Postby Nationalist State of Knox » Wed Aug 07, 2013 1:31 am

You die and that's it. No idealistic afterlife nonsense.
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Postby Forster Keys » Wed Aug 07, 2013 1:32 am

Desocia wrote:Have you ever thought about it? Are you afraid to die?


Sometimes I think about it. It doesn't worry me though.
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Postby Desocia » Wed Aug 07, 2013 1:32 am

Cabra West wrote:Traditionally, you're either put underground or burned. In some traditions you would be left to feed vultures.

Either way, unless your ashes are kept on someone's mantlepiece, you return the nutrients you borrowed during your lifetime back into the circle of eat-and-be-eaten by either feeding plants or animals.
So, while your conscious self does cease to exist, the stuff you're made of will live on.
I quite like how neat this is.


How inspiring :lol2:
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Postby Cabra West » Wed Aug 07, 2013 1:32 am

Desocia wrote:Have you ever thought about it? Are you afraid to die?


I'm afraid of dying - I'm afraid that it might be a painful and drawn-out process, and like most people I really dislike pain.

I'm not really afraid of what comes after. "Where I am, death is not; where death is, I am not" (Epicurus)
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Postby Conserative Morality » Wed Aug 07, 2013 1:34 am

Nothing. We die. That's it. This is why life is worthwhile.
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Postby Polkopia » Wed Aug 07, 2013 1:35 am

Desocia wrote:Have you ever thought about it? Are you afraid to die?


I'm not afraid of death itself, but I'm afraid to find out what happens after death.
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Postby Desocia » Wed Aug 07, 2013 1:35 am

Conserative Morality wrote:Nothing. We die. That's it. This is why life is worthwhile.


That is a good way to go.
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Postby Horizont » Wed Aug 07, 2013 1:35 am

The physical matter you are made of will never be destroyed. There will be at least thousands of atoms from every single person here in the first person to land on an extrasolar planet in the future.

Also, there are about a million molecules of Archimedes' famous bath water in every glass of water you drink.

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Postby Al Meajilia » Wed Aug 07, 2013 1:36 am

I'm not afraid to die, I believe when you die you either go to heaven or hell.
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Postby Imota » Wed Aug 07, 2013 1:39 am

It's not death I'm afraid of. I'm more afraid that I won't be able to do all the things I want to do in life, or that I'll leave the lights on on the day that I finally

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Postby The Grey Wolf » Wed Aug 07, 2013 1:40 am

Hathradic States wrote:
Desocia wrote:Have you ever thought about it? Are you afraid to die?

Yes.

I used to not be. Then I got engaged, have friends who love me now, and people who depend on me. Now, I really like living.


I know the feeling. I'm not engaged, and have a very limited number of friends, but I still fear death. Especially back when I believed in oblivion.

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Postby The Grey Wolf » Wed Aug 07, 2013 1:42 am

I believe in a sort of reincarnation, when the subtle mind enters a fertilized egg. I'd like to think that it would have some influence on appearance and gender and all (I really don't want to come back as a woman.) But I doubt it.

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Postby Nationalist State of Knox » Wed Aug 07, 2013 1:42 am

The Grey Wolf wrote:
Hathradic States wrote:Yes.

I used to not be. Then I got engaged, have friends who love me now, and people who depend on me. Now, I really like living.


I know the feeling. I'm not engaged, and have a very limited number of friends, but I still fear death. Especially back when I believed in oblivion.

Mehrunes Dagon is pretty scary.
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Postby The Grey Wolf » Wed Aug 07, 2013 1:44 am

Nationalist State of Knox wrote:
The Grey Wolf wrote:
I know the feeling. I'm not engaged, and have a very limited number of friends, but I still fear death. Especially back when I believed in oblivion.

Mehrunes Dagon is pretty scary.


Is he? I wouldn't know. I worship Yog Sothoth. :p

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