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Hathradic States
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Postby Hathradic States » Tue Aug 06, 2013 11:07 pm

The Parkus Empire wrote:
Hathradic States wrote:1. For their country. Despite America's flaws, I would not live in any other country willingly. It is my home, and I love it. I just hate the government.
2. Mostly political (see Korea, Vietnam)
3. Yeah, but without us making their trucks for them, they would have had a hell of a time doing that.

Why do you hate the government?

The government is full of corporate slaves who don't give two shits about their people, that's why.

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Postby Blasveck » Tue Aug 06, 2013 11:08 pm

Hathradic States wrote:
The Parkus Empire wrote:Why do you hate the government?

The government is full of corporate slaves who don't give two shits about their people, that's why.


And you propose fixing it by....
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Postby Agritum » Tue Aug 06, 2013 11:08 pm

Byzantium Imperial wrote:Oh crap, the DHS is watching my computer screen? Thats really not good.....

Nah. It's more like they can stop you while you drive along the border for the silliest shit.

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Postby Hathradic States » Tue Aug 06, 2013 11:08 pm

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Hathradic States wrote:1. That happens no matter where you live. At least now we don't have a draft.
2. I didn't say I love it because we always won.


1. I'd rather it never happen, which is why I'm a Libertarian.

Libertarianism, true libertarianism, is unattainable, imo. Whenever you get someone in a position of power, it will be abused.

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Postby Bendira » Tue Aug 06, 2013 11:09 pm

Hathradic States wrote:1. That happens no matter where you live. At least now we don't have a draft.

If you lived on a street made up entirely of rapists, would you worship your rapist room mate who terrorizes you because he rapes you the least relative to the other rapists in the neighborhood?

Just because in America we get abused less by our state doesn't mean we should suck it off

2. I didn't say I love it because we always won.


Wars that didn't have to happen are great right?

I would like to see you be drafted and go fight and die for no god damn reason, then sing the praises of the asshole who enslaved you and sent you there.

That is the problem with history nerds on the internet, they sing praises to war because it seems so glamorous. It probably isn't as glamorous when you actually have to be the one to get traumatic brain injuries when you get the upper portion of your skull blown off.
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Postby Agritum » Tue Aug 06, 2013 11:09 pm

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The Parkus Empire wrote:Why do you hate the government?

The government is full of corporate slaves who don't give two shits about their people, that's why.

That's not simply the government.

That's the whole American Political System. Libertarians included (Koch Brothers, eh.)

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Postby Blasveck » Tue Aug 06, 2013 11:09 pm

Hathradic States wrote:
Blasveck wrote:
1. I'd rather it never happen, which is why I'm a Libertarian.

Libertarianism, true libertarianism, is unattainable, imo. Whenever you get someone in a position of power, it will be abused.


Which is why you make their power as limited as humanly possible.
Or shit like this will happen.
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Postby Blasveck » Tue Aug 06, 2013 11:10 pm

Agritum wrote:
Hathradic States wrote:The government is full of corporate slaves who don't give two shits about their people, that's why.

That's not simply the government.

That's the whole American Political System. Libertarians included (Koch Brothers, eh.)


Arent the Koch Brothers Tea Partiers?
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Postby Byzantium Imperial » Tue Aug 06, 2013 11:11 pm

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Hathradic States wrote:The government is full of corporate slaves who don't give two shits about their people, that's why.


And you propose fixing it by....

Shoot them
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Postby Agritum » Tue Aug 06, 2013 11:11 pm

Blasveck wrote:
Agritum wrote:That's not simply the government.

That's the whole American Political System. Libertarians included (Koch Brothers, eh.)


Arent the Koch Brothers Tea Partiers?

Cato Institute, too.

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Postby The Steel Magnolia » Tue Aug 06, 2013 11:11 pm

I'm assuming the standard, overblown 1984 comparisons have been made?

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Postby Agritum » Tue Aug 06, 2013 11:12 pm

The Steel Magnolia wrote:I'm assuming the standard, overblown 1984 comparisons have been made?

Yep. It's still quite a shitty thing, though. Especially for immigrants.

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Postby The Parkus Empire » Tue Aug 06, 2013 11:13 pm

Hathradic States wrote:
The Parkus Empire wrote:Why do you hate the government?

The government is full of corporate slaves who don't give two shits about their people, that's why.

You said you prefer a system where the strong dominate the weak. You said you define strength as wealth. Where is the problem here?
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Postby Mike the Progressive » Tue Aug 06, 2013 11:13 pm

As somebody who is actually hoping to do government contract work during graduate school, I say God bless America!

Honestly though, I've never understood this obsession, this fear of "Oh my god, everything I do online the government can see." Chances are unless you're planning to set off a fucking bomb, they couldn't give two fucks about you.

I know, I know. It's quite the shocker. You not being that important (except maybe to yourself), what a world we live in.

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Postby Byzantium Imperial » Tue Aug 06, 2013 11:14 pm

Mike the Progressive wrote:As somebody who is actually hoping to do government contract work during graduate school, I say God bless America!

Honestly though, I've never understood this obsession, this fear of "Oh my god, everything I do online the government can see." Chances are unless you're planning to set off a fucking bomb, they couldn't give two fucks about you.

I know, I know. It's quite the shocker. You not being that important (except maybe to yourself), what a world we live in.

Well about that.....
I may or may not have posted several times desires to bomb the dmv.
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Postby Hathradic States » Tue Aug 06, 2013 11:14 pm

Bendira wrote:
Hathradic States wrote:1. That happens no matter where you live. At least now we don't have a draft.

If you lived on a street made up entirely of rapists, would you worship your rapist room mate who terrorizes you because he rapes you the least relative to the other rapists in the neighborhood?

Just because in America we get abused less by our state doesn't mean we should suck it off

2. I didn't say I love it because we always won.


Wars that didn't have to happen are great right?

I would like to see you be drafted and go fight and die for no god damn reason, then sing the praises of the asshole who enslaved you and sent you there.

That is the problem with history nerds on the internet, they sing praises to war because it seems so glamorous. It probably isn't as glamorous when you actually have to be the one to get traumatic brain injuries when you get the upper portion of your skull blown off.

Yeah. Bad comparison.


I respect the soldiers who fought and died, not the war itself. Believe me, I know war is shit. I'll spare you the description of what happens in a firefight, but it's not pretty. That doesn't mean I can't respect and admire the men (and women) who put their lives on the line for their nation.

Liberals: Honestly I was wrong bout em.
I swear I'm not as terrible as you remember.
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Postby The Parkus Empire » Tue Aug 06, 2013 11:15 pm

Mike the Progressive wrote:As somebody who is actually hoping to do government contract work during graduate school, I say God bless America!

Honestly though, I've never understood this obsession, this fear of "Oh my god, everything I do online the government can see." Chances are unless you're planning to set off a fucking bomb, they couldn't give two fucks about you.

I know, I know. It's quite the shocker. You not being that important (except maybe to yourself), what a world we live in.

I'm going to post my bomb plans on Facebook! Oh wait, we live in 1984....
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Postby Blasveck » Tue Aug 06, 2013 11:16 pm

Hathradic States wrote:
Bendira wrote:If you lived on a street made up entirely of rapists, would you worship your rapist room mate who terrorizes you because he rapes you the least relative to the other rapists in the neighborhood?

Just because in America we get abused less by our state doesn't mean we should suck it off



Wars that didn't have to happen are great right?

I would like to see you be drafted and go fight and die for no god damn reason, then sing the praises of the asshole who enslaved you and sent you there.

That is the problem with history nerds on the internet, they sing praises to war because it seems so glamorous. It probably isn't as glamorous when you actually have to be the one to get traumatic brain injuries when you get the upper portion of your skull blown off.

Yeah. Bad comparison.


I respect the soldiers who fought and died, not the war itself. Believe me, I know war is shit. I'll spare you the description of what happens in a firefight, but it's not pretty. That doesn't mean I can't respect and admire the men (and women) who put their lives on the line for their nation.


They put their lives on the line for a bullshit cause.

War isn't just hell, it's complete and utter bullshit.
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Postby Hathradic States » Tue Aug 06, 2013 11:16 pm

The Parkus Empire wrote:
Hathradic States wrote:The government is full of corporate slaves who don't give two shits about their people, that's why.

You said you prefer a system where the strong dominate the weak. You said you define strength as wealth. Where is the problem here?

I prefer for individuals to dominate instead of corporations. Business should be under the government, not the other way around.

Liberals: Honestly I was wrong bout em.
I swear I'm not as terrible as you remember.
Sadly Proven Right in 2016
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Postby Agritum » Tue Aug 06, 2013 11:17 pm

Hathradic States wrote:
The Parkus Empire wrote:You said you prefer a system where the strong dominate the weak. You said you define strength as wealth. Where is the problem here?

I prefer for individuals to dominate instead of corporations. Business should be under the government, not the other way around.

Individuals are behind corporations.

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Postby Tenebriso » Tue Aug 06, 2013 11:17 pm

Shit like this is why I am a Libertarian. Where are dem conspiracy nuts when you need them. They used to give us all a good laugh...now I can't help but think they are all laughing at us.
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Postby Hathradic States » Tue Aug 06, 2013 11:17 pm

Blasveck wrote:
Hathradic States wrote:Yeah. Bad comparison.


I respect the soldiers who fought and died, not the war itself. Believe me, I know war is shit. I'll spare you the description of what happens in a firefight, but it's not pretty. That doesn't mean I can't respect and admire the men (and women) who put their lives on the line for their nation.


They put their lives on the line for a bullshit cause.

War isn't just hell, it's complete and utter bullshit.

Does it matter what the cause? They still had the balls to deal with the bullshit and come home afterwards.

Liberals: Honestly I was wrong bout em.
I swear I'm not as terrible as you remember.
Sadly Proven Right in 2016
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Postby Bendira » Tue Aug 06, 2013 11:17 pm

Hathradic States wrote:Yeah. Bad comparison.

Why?

I respect the soldiers who fought and died, not the war itself. Believe me, I know war is shit. I'll spare you the description of what happens in a firefight, but it's not pretty. That doesn't mean I can't respect and admire the men (and women) who put their lives on the line for their nation.


You mean fought and died for literally nothing. And not only fought and died for nothing, but killed other human beings for nothing. Vietnam was a total waste, everybody on both sides died for literally nothing. None of them are heroes, none of them deserve praise. They deserve pity for being the enslaved draftees that had to go in there and get shot at for no reason.

They were enslaved and forced to commit murder, that is pitiful, not heroic or admirable.
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Postby Hathradic States » Tue Aug 06, 2013 11:18 pm

Agritum wrote:
Hathradic States wrote:I prefer for individuals to dominate instead of corporations. Business should be under the government, not the other way around.

Individuals are behind corporations.

Individuals whose biggest concern is corporate profit, not national good.

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I swear I'm not as terrible as you remember.
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Postby Tenebriso » Tue Aug 06, 2013 11:18 pm

Hathradic States wrote:
Blasveck wrote:
They put their lives on the line for a bullshit cause.

War isn't just hell, it's complete and utter bullshit.

Does it matter what the cause? They still had the balls to deal with the bullshit and come home afterwards.

We still have to know when to say no...
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