NATION

PASSWORD

An Independent Native American State?

For discussion and debate about anything. (Not a roleplay related forum; out-of-character commentary only.)

Advertisement

Remove ads

Do you think Native American Reservations should be allowed to gain independence?

YES
235
38%
NO
275
45%
MAYBE
104
17%
 
Total votes : 614

User avatar
Greater Corea
Diplomat
 
Posts: 775
Founded: Feb 18, 2013
Democratic Socialists

Postby Greater Corea » Mon Aug 05, 2013 4:09 pm

Vazdania wrote:
Torsiedellious and Sturmovosk wrote:
And we Greeks demand our Greek Yogurt factories and Olive Gardens!

Even thought I'm pretty sure they aren't Greek.

TAKE YOUR GREEK YOGURT BACK!!! Ain't nobody got time for 'dat!


Wow...

We British demand the thriteen colonies back! They belong to us!
We'd also like our beer, tea, and biscuits back!
Join Asiana today!
Shnercropolis wrote:
Greater Corea wrote:
...Corea was attacked by some enemy and thus troops stay high for defense porpoises.

aww yeah.
http://www.guns.com/wp-content/uploads/ ... ins-5.jpeg

Greater Corea wrote:
Ranoria wrote:...

"He's dead Jim"


:( "Spock, If I get back, we really need to talk about your bedside manner."

Male, 18 yrs old

User avatar
The Parkus Empire
Post Czar
 
Posts: 43030
Founded: Sep 12, 2005
Ex-Nation

Postby The Parkus Empire » Mon Aug 05, 2013 4:09 pm

Shirah Mataniya wrote:
Genivaria wrote:Yes let's just start tearing apart the whole country then. :palm:


Well originally before the greedy colonists arrived the land we now call the United States was very divided anyway.
The United States is in dire need of being divided up, it's an ungodly sized nation.

Native Americans would be sure to fare better if states could do whatever the fuck they wanted.
American Orthodox: one, holy, catholic, and apostolic church.
Jesus is Allah ن
Burkean conservative
Homophobic
Anti-feminist sexist
♂Copy and paste this in your sig if you passed biology and know men and women aren't the same.♀

User avatar
Genivaria
Khan of Spam
 
Posts: 69943
Founded: Mar 29, 2011
Ex-Nation

Postby Genivaria » Mon Aug 05, 2013 4:09 pm

Shirah Mataniya wrote:
Genivaria wrote:And you base this on.....? :eyebrow:


I'm not entirely serious, but the United States is very large compared to Europe.

.....and? That doesn't justify trying to split it up.
And what are you not being serious about?

User avatar
The Grey Wolf
Post Czar
 
Posts: 32675
Founded: May 19, 2013
Ex-Nation

Postby The Grey Wolf » Mon Aug 05, 2013 4:09 pm

Genivaria wrote:
The Grey Wolf wrote:
Because clearly wanting to gain independence from a country that has lied, manipulated, and attacked you is not a good enough reason.
Racial nationalism alone is a sufficient reason.

No it's really not, Racial Nationalism is how the Israel/Palestine nonsense started to begin with.


Wait, you mean Jews are a race? :roll: Shocking.

User avatar
Genivaria
Khan of Spam
 
Posts: 69943
Founded: Mar 29, 2011
Ex-Nation

Postby Genivaria » Mon Aug 05, 2013 4:10 pm

The Parkus Empire wrote:
Shirah Mataniya wrote:
Well originally before the greedy colonists arrived the land we now call the United States was very divided anyway.
The United States is in dire need of being divided up, it's an ungodly sized nation.

Native Americans would be sure to fare better if states could do whatever the fuck they wanted.

*coughJimCrowLawscough*

User avatar
Granadeseret
Ambassador
 
Posts: 1251
Founded: Jul 28, 2013
Ex-Nation

Postby Granadeseret » Mon Aug 05, 2013 4:10 pm

Genivaria wrote:
Shirah Mataniya wrote:Well originally before the greedy colonists arrived the land we now call the United States was very divided anyway.
The United States is in dire need of being divided up, it's an ungodly sized nation.

And you base this on.....? :eyebrow:


Certainly not popular ideals, since the vast majority of the people living in The United States prefer for it to remain one nation. Certainly not on the basis of being much large the any other nation, since India and China are large population-wise and do fairly well, and Russia and Canada are bigger geographcially, same thing. Certainly not due to major regional ethnic or linguistically divides, since most of the nation speaks primarily English, is ethnically diverse, ect.

User avatar
The Parkus Empire
Post Czar
 
Posts: 43030
Founded: Sep 12, 2005
Ex-Nation

Postby The Parkus Empire » Mon Aug 05, 2013 4:11 pm

The Grey Wolf wrote:
The Parkus Empire wrote:The Jews will just come in and take over both, one way or another


Let's see how long they want to stay when I have successfully cloned Hitler. :twisted:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RhpqqNZMx50
American Orthodox: one, holy, catholic, and apostolic church.
Jesus is Allah ن
Burkean conservative
Homophobic
Anti-feminist sexist
♂Copy and paste this in your sig if you passed biology and know men and women aren't the same.♀

User avatar
The Grey Wolf
Post Czar
 
Posts: 32675
Founded: May 19, 2013
Ex-Nation

Postby The Grey Wolf » Mon Aug 05, 2013 4:11 pm

Mike the Progressive wrote:
Genivaria wrote:Yes let's just start tearing apart the whole country then. :palm:


He's like the Oprah of land.

"You get a state and you get a state and you get a state! You're all getting a state!"


I get dibs on North Carolina.

User avatar
Marcurix
Negotiator
 
Posts: 5235
Founded: Nov 01, 2007
Ex-Nation

Postby Marcurix » Mon Aug 05, 2013 4:12 pm

The Parkus Empire wrote:Not a big fan of racial nationalism.


This.
I do not agree with what you have to say, but I'll defend to the death your right to say it.
-Voltaire

A fanatic is one who can't change his mind and won't change the subject.
-Winston Churchill

Attitude is a little thing that makes a big difference.
-Winston Churchill

User avatar
The Parkus Empire
Post Czar
 
Posts: 43030
Founded: Sep 12, 2005
Ex-Nation

Postby The Parkus Empire » Mon Aug 05, 2013 4:12 pm

Genivaria wrote:
The Parkus Empire wrote:Native Americans would be sure to fare better if states could do whatever the fuck they wanted.

*coughJimCrowLawscough*

At least we wouldn't be an ungodly size.
American Orthodox: one, holy, catholic, and apostolic church.
Jesus is Allah ن
Burkean conservative
Homophobic
Anti-feminist sexist
♂Copy and paste this in your sig if you passed biology and know men and women aren't the same.♀

User avatar
Vazdania
Post Marshal
 
Posts: 19448
Founded: Mar 06, 2011
Ex-Nation

Postby Vazdania » Mon Aug 05, 2013 4:12 pm

Greater Corea wrote:
Vazdania wrote:TAKE YOUR GREEK YOGURT BACK!!! Ain't nobody got time for 'dat!


Wow...

We British demand the thriteen colonies back! They belong to us!
We'd also like our beer, tea, and biscuits back!

D: NOT THE TEA!
NSG's Resident Constitutional Executive Monarchist!
We Monarchists Stand With The Morals Of The Past, As We Hatch Impossible Treasons Against The Present.

They Have No Voice; So I will Speak For Them. The Right To Life Is Fundamental To All Humans Regardless Of How Developed They Are. Pro-Woman. Pro-Child. Pro-Life.

NSG's Newest Vegetarian!

User avatar
Shirah Mataniya
Envoy
 
Posts: 244
Founded: Feb 18, 2013
Ex-Nation

Postby Shirah Mataniya » Mon Aug 05, 2013 4:13 pm

Genivaria wrote:
Shirah Mataniya wrote:
I'm not entirely serious, but the United States is very large compared to Europe.

.....and? That doesn't justify trying to split it up.
And what are you not being serious about?


I'm just saying that the United States wasn't originally an imperialistic entity obsessed with territorial gain and economic dominance over other nations, the land that is now known as the United States was once like this: http://espressostalinist.files.wordpress.com/2011/01/native_american_tribes_map1.jpg
Last edited by Shirah Mataniya on Mon Aug 05, 2013 4:15 pm, edited 1 time in total.
For: Scottish Independence, Irish Reunification and the Good Friday Agreement, Cypriot Reunification and the Annan Plan, Republic of Lakotah and the American Indian Movement, Palestine Liberation Organization and the Madrid Conference, Israeli-Palestinian Peace Process, Sovereignty of Taiwan, Civil Partnership, Tibetan Independence, Catalan Independence, Abortion (under certain circumstances)

Against: Hydraulic Fracturing, Racism, Kosovo, Nazism, Gay Marriage, Animal Cruelty, Same-sex Adoption, Imperialism, Sectarianism, Terrorism and Jihadism, Chechen Independence, Occultism


User avatar
Genivaria
Khan of Spam
 
Posts: 69943
Founded: Mar 29, 2011
Ex-Nation

Postby Genivaria » Mon Aug 05, 2013 4:13 pm

The Parkus Empire wrote:
Genivaria wrote:*coughJimCrowLawscough*

At least we wouldn't be an ungodly size.

You say that like it's a bad thing.

User avatar
The Grey Wolf
Post Czar
 
Posts: 32675
Founded: May 19, 2013
Ex-Nation

Postby The Grey Wolf » Mon Aug 05, 2013 4:15 pm

The Parkus Empire wrote:
The Grey Wolf wrote:
Let's see how long they want to stay when I have successfully cloned Hitler. :twisted:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RhpqqNZMx50


I demand to be played by Gregory Peck or Bruno Ganz. :p

User avatar
The Parkus Empire
Post Czar
 
Posts: 43030
Founded: Sep 12, 2005
Ex-Nation

Postby The Parkus Empire » Mon Aug 05, 2013 4:15 pm

Genivaria wrote:
The Parkus Empire wrote:At least we wouldn't be an ungodly size.

You say that like it's a bad thing.

It forces progress on states, so....
American Orthodox: one, holy, catholic, and apostolic church.
Jesus is Allah ن
Burkean conservative
Homophobic
Anti-feminist sexist
♂Copy and paste this in your sig if you passed biology and know men and women aren't the same.♀

User avatar
Genivaria
Khan of Spam
 
Posts: 69943
Founded: Mar 29, 2011
Ex-Nation

Postby Genivaria » Mon Aug 05, 2013 4:17 pm

Shirah Mataniya wrote:
Genivaria wrote:.....and? That doesn't justify trying to split it up.
And what are you not being serious about?


I'm just saying that the United States wasn't originally an imperialistic entity obsessed with territorial gain and economic dominance over other nations, the United States was once like this: http://espressostalinist.files.wordpress.com/2011/01/native_american_tribes_map1.jpg

1. The United States is not 'imperialistic'.
2. It's a soverign nation, of course it's going to care about its land.
3. And that wasn't the United States, there WAS no United States then.

User avatar
The Orson Empire
Post Czar
 
Posts: 31632
Founded: Mar 20, 2012
Left-wing Utopia

Postby The Orson Empire » Mon Aug 05, 2013 4:18 pm

There is little to no chance of it happening. It is illegal to succeed from the United States.

User avatar
The Parkus Empire
Post Czar
 
Posts: 43030
Founded: Sep 12, 2005
Ex-Nation

Postby The Parkus Empire » Mon Aug 05, 2013 4:19 pm

The Orson Empire wrote:There is little to no chance of it happening. It is illegal to succeed from the United States.

It's actually the American Dream
American Orthodox: one, holy, catholic, and apostolic church.
Jesus is Allah ن
Burkean conservative
Homophobic
Anti-feminist sexist
♂Copy and paste this in your sig if you passed biology and know men and women aren't the same.♀

User avatar
Union of Confederate Socialist Republics
Diplomat
 
Posts: 992
Founded: Oct 21, 2011
Ex-Nation

Postby Union of Confederate Socialist Republics » Mon Aug 05, 2013 4:19 pm

If they want independence that badly they can have it but I think the whole thing would turn out like how the reserve system did.

User avatar
Gaveo
Post Czar
 
Posts: 32070
Founded: Jun 02, 2012
Ex-Nation

Postby Gaveo » Mon Aug 05, 2013 4:21 pm

Regnum Dominae wrote:More autonomy should be allowed for tribes that are capable of self-sufficiency, but not independence.

This basically.
Bruh.

User avatar
The Rich Port
Post Czar
 
Posts: 38272
Founded: Jul 29, 2008
Left-Leaning College State

Postby The Rich Port » Mon Aug 05, 2013 4:22 pm

I say let the Native Americans rise and, together with the New Canadian Empire, conquer the world.

Think about it. Free Peyote at church, we get to wear head-dresses and feathers and it won't be weird, and being naked/in a loincloth is a common thing.

I, for one, welcome our new Indian overlords. ALL HAIL THE NATIVE AMERICAN STATES OF THE INDIANS!
THOSE THAT SOW THORNS SHOULD NOT EXPECT FLOWERS
CONSERVATISM IS FEAR AND STAGNATION AS IDEOLOGY. ONLY MARCH FORWARD.

Pronouns: She/Her
The Alt-Right Playbook
Alt-right/racist terminology
LOVEWHOYOUARE~

User avatar
Mike the Progressive
Postmaster of the Fleet
 
Posts: 27544
Founded: Oct 27, 2010
Ex-Nation

Postby Mike the Progressive » Mon Aug 05, 2013 4:22 pm

The Parkus Empire wrote:
The Orson Empire wrote:There is little to no chance of it happening. It is illegal to succeed from the United States.

It's actually the American Dream


:lol:

User avatar
Southern Louisiane
Diplomat
 
Posts: 582
Founded: May 18, 2012
Democratic Socialists

Postby Southern Louisiane » Mon Aug 05, 2013 4:22 pm

Well i'm part Coushatta and Cherokee. The land that my tribe in Kinder LA have ,is good enough. Forming their own nation would probably ruin their way if life. Unless America will provide for their infrastructure, and gave them some "free" things, but then their would be no point in breaking away.

User avatar
Vazdania
Post Marshal
 
Posts: 19448
Founded: Mar 06, 2011
Ex-Nation

Postby Vazdania » Mon Aug 05, 2013 4:23 pm

The Orson Empire wrote:There is little to no chance of it happening. It is illegal to succeed from the United States.

Not if a government shut down occurs.
NSG's Resident Constitutional Executive Monarchist!
We Monarchists Stand With The Morals Of The Past, As We Hatch Impossible Treasons Against The Present.

They Have No Voice; So I will Speak For Them. The Right To Life Is Fundamental To All Humans Regardless Of How Developed They Are. Pro-Woman. Pro-Child. Pro-Life.

NSG's Newest Vegetarian!

User avatar
Southern Louisiane
Diplomat
 
Posts: 582
Founded: May 18, 2012
Democratic Socialists

Postby Southern Louisiane » Mon Aug 05, 2013 4:24 pm

The Parkus Empire wrote:
The Orson Empire wrote:There is little to no chance of it happening. It is illegal to succeed from the United States.

It's actually the American Dream

Vive la Francais Louisiane!

PreviousNext

Advertisement

Remove ads

Return to General

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: Europa Undivided, GMS Greater Miami Shores 1, New haven america, Saiwana, Shrillland, Stratonesia, Tiami, Trollgaard, Turenia

Advertisement

Remove ads