by Umbradge » Mon Aug 05, 2013 8:31 am
by Kelmet » Mon Aug 05, 2013 8:34 am
Umbradge wrote:I have been doing some research on libertarianism (minimal government for those who don't know) became a libertarian myself, and I've seen some criticisms that make sense such as "total freedom does not guarantee happiness" and I understand that. I read through the whole list and none of the other points and my faith in libertarianism was not swayed. Yet many still say that libertarianism would not work. I looked on the lists and found that the number of socialists and iron fisted dictatorships outweighed the number of libertarians an anarcho Capitalists, so all I'm asking for is your reasoning for choosing your own political philosophy, or, more to the point, why more people aren't shouldn't have both economic and social freedom . Please explain your reasoning.
by Augarundus » Mon Aug 05, 2013 8:36 am
by Lancov » Mon Aug 05, 2013 8:38 am
by Pultridus » Mon Aug 05, 2013 8:38 am
by Frisivisia » Mon Aug 05, 2013 8:39 am
Kelmet wrote:Umbradge wrote:I have been doing some research on libertarianism (minimal government for those who don't know) became a libertarian myself, and I've seen some criticisms that make sense such as "total freedom does not guarantee happiness" and I understand that. I read through the whole list and none of the other points and my faith in libertarianism was not swayed. Yet many still say that libertarianism would not work. I looked on the lists and found that the number of socialists and iron fisted dictatorships outweighed the number of libertarians an anarcho Capitalists, so all I'm asking for is your reasoning for choosing your own political philosophy, or, more to the point, why more people aren't shouldn't have both economic and social freedom . Please explain your reasoning.
People should have both Social and economic freedom, thats why the Libertarian party is the largest and fastest growing 3rd party in the US.
by Mkuki » Mon Aug 05, 2013 8:39 am
John Rawls wrote:In justice as fairness, the concept of right is prior to that of the good.
by Wikkiwallana » Mon Aug 05, 2013 8:40 am
Dumb Ideologies wrote:Halt!
Just because these people are stupid, wrong and highly dangerous does not mean you have the right to make them feel sad.
Avenio wrote:Just so you know, the use of the term 'sheep' 'sheeple' or any other herd animal-based terminology in conjunction with an exhortation to 'think outside the box' or stop going along with groupthink generally indicates that the speaker is actually more closed-minded on the subject than the people that he/she is addressing. At least, in my experience at least.
by Uelvan » Mon Aug 05, 2013 8:40 am
by Frisivisia » Mon Aug 05, 2013 8:40 am
Mkuki wrote:Hmm...do libertarians support trusts and business monopolies?
by Gauthier » Mon Aug 05, 2013 8:40 am
by Frisivisia » Mon Aug 05, 2013 8:41 am
Uelvan wrote:Libertarianism is the right's socialism. A fairy tale concept that sounds good on paper, until you actually try to apply it in person. In the case of libertarianism, you'll have to settle for non-Libertarian policies or else risk becoming a 2-class state though.
by Mkuki » Mon Aug 05, 2013 8:42 am
John Rawls wrote:In justice as fairness, the concept of right is prior to that of the good.
by Uelvan » Mon Aug 05, 2013 8:43 am
Frisivisia wrote:Uelvan wrote:Libertarianism is the right's socialism. A fairy tale concept that sounds good on paper, until you actually try to apply it in person. In the case of libertarianism, you'll have to settle for non-Libertarian policies or else risk becoming a 2-class state though.
Only socialism is utopian where libertarianism is dystopian.
by Khalite » Mon Aug 05, 2013 8:43 am
by Frisivisia » Mon Aug 05, 2013 8:44 am
by Avenio » Mon Aug 05, 2013 8:44 am
Kelmet wrote:People should have both Social and economic freedom, thats why the Libertarian party is the largest and fastest growing 3rd party in the US.
by Gauthier » Mon Aug 05, 2013 8:45 am
Khalite wrote:The Libertarian viewpoint is quite selfish, I believe. Libertarians want more privatization of necessary services that provide for the public. If Libertarian ideals were pushed forward, there would be many people bereft of an ability to thrive. Most State governments provide a safety net, and the social contract requires cooperation from the citizen for the safety net to be maintained and for the most common good to be maintained. The harsh individualism of the Libertarian potentially ignores the rights of- and their responsibilities to -others.
Libertarians wish to be their own 'masters', with their own property held in complete bondage to them and them alone. It is a fantasy of individual power and 'freedom' for the common man that is but a dream.
by Khalite » Mon Aug 05, 2013 8:46 am
Gauthier wrote:Khalite wrote:The Libertarian viewpoint is quite selfish, I believe. Libertarians want more privatization of necessary services that provide for the public. If Libertarian ideals were pushed forward, there would be many people bereft of an ability to thrive. Most State governments provide a safety net, and the social contract requires cooperation from the citizen for the safety net to be maintained and for the most common good to be maintained. The harsh individualism of the Libertarian potentially ignores the rights of- and their responsibilities to -others.
Libertarians wish to be their own 'masters', with their own property held in complete bondage to them and them alone. It is a fantasy of individual power and 'freedom' for the common man that is but a dream.
The strongest advocates of feudalism always imagine themselves to be part of the ruling class.
by Hornesia » Mon Aug 05, 2013 8:47 am
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