Explain Your Religious Views or Lack Thereof

[The Grey Wolf]

It's pretty much 'sexed up atheism', as Dawkins would say.

But it's a nice enough religion of sorts, I suppose. It leaves everything in the hands of reality and reason, rather than bind us to illusive supernatural forces.

Sexed up Atheism would be Buddhism I am afraid. We took that title centuries ago.

Pantheism is atheism on more spirits and superstition. Or what you said.

Buddhism is not sexed up atheism. Neither is Pantheism.

[Liriena]

Sexed up Atheism would be Buddhism I am afraid. We took that title centuries ago.

Pantheism is atheism on more spirits and superstition. Or what you said.

Buddhism is not sexed up atheism. Neither is Pantheism.

Are you saying Pantheists don't get laid? D:

[Seven Suns]

We were on the topic of who gets to go to paradise so I threw in what was on my mind

Ah, I see. That is a good question though. They think that what they did was just and for that reason they'll go to heaven. Others think what they did is wrong so they assume those terrorists are going to hell.

Exactly my point. Which leads us to question, is God just a fraction of our imagination. Conceived to justify actions we take in life

[Grenartia]

Stupid multiple interpretations, causing bickering and other things. :c

Well if I'm right then it doesn't even matter... Everyone will eventually come to paradise and learn Truth.

Same as if I'm right.

Freedom isn't free. And its hard to appreciate freedom without experiencing repression. Likewise with good and evil.



Actually, I believe in Hell, albiet a non-permanent one. And all purgatory is is life on Earth.



Indeed.

Gren I love ya

And I love you, too.

Freedom isn't free. And its hard to appreciate freedom without experiencing repression. Likewise with good and evil.



Actually, I believe in Hell, albiet a non-permanent one. And all purgatory is is life on Earth.



Indeed.

To me, purgatory is only "where you go to be purged of/atone for your sins." It isn't hell unless it's eternal and can't be swayed.

That's precisely what purgatory is, according to my beliefs. If you were generally a good person in your last life, or if you were generally a bad person, but you learned your lesson and got released from hell, you get reincarnated on Earth.

[Vareiln]

If we're taking this from the Christian standpoint, then that is exactly how it would happen. At least, that's the main theological beliefs.

If its Islam or Judaism, that's another story.

Sucks, don't it?

It's a grim way to look at the meaning of life and humanity as a whole. And people call atheism depressing.

Christianity has a history as a mystical and occult religion, especially in its gnostic forms. It actually gets really dark.

[Seperates]

I know, and isn't cute how these things have actually been demonstrated rather than just simply hand-waved at? But again. You aren't mocking atheism. You are mocking physics and the scientific method. Because here's the thing... being an atheist doesn't actually require believing in the power of the scientific method. Shocker, I know. They go hand in hand pretty well, but there is no requirement.

I know, but they go hand in hand for almost every atheist so I might as well been mocking atheism. But my point was, its common curtesy not to disrespect people through mockery.

Don't make an ass of you and me. You are not mocking atheism, you are mocking physics. Sorry, but your mistake in where an idea comes from does not grant you permission to be factually correct.

And I'm saying, as long as I'm not threatening you with physical violence, consider that common curtsey. I'm not disrespecting you, I am disrespecting your belief that your belief guarantees you respect. Your humanity is what gains my respect, not your belief, though your arguments can make me lose that respect rather easily.

[The Grey Wolf]

Buddhism is not sexed up atheism. Neither is Pantheism.

Are you saying Pantheists don't get laid? D:

Nothing of the sort.

[Seitonjin]

Sexed up Atheism would be Buddhism I am afraid. We took that title centuries ago.

Pantheism is atheism on more spirits and superstition. Or what you said.

My religion is atheism with symbols and an eternal quest for knowledge.

Math?

Sexed up Atheism would be Buddhism I am afraid. We took that title centuries ago.

Pantheism is atheism on more spirits and superstition. Or what you said.

Buddhism is not sexed up atheism. Neither is Pantheism.

No gods only human ethics.

Well you could say that Scientology is Atheism after ten bottles of vodka on an acid trip.

Nuuu... It's HaruxPool :3

Scientology is what Christianity would have been like if Jesus had lived in the 60's.

Alright, alright! It's HaruxPool!

I am surprised by how quickly fangirls managed to produce tons of HaruxRin art. I approve wholeheartedly, of course. :3

Heeeeey. You're right~!

Yesh! And I approve as well. *nosebleed*

[Liriena]

Ah, I see. That is a good question though. They think that what they did was just and for that reason they'll go to heaven. Others think what they did is wrong so they assume those terrorists are going to hell.

Exactly my point. Which leads us to question, is God just a fraction of our imagination. Conceived to justify actions we take in life

The concept of divinity is born mostly out of fear of death and the unknown. What we don't understand frightens us, and in the ancient we understood so little of our natural world that only divine intervention made sense. Our capacity to reason makes us aware of the inevitability of death, and our survival instinct obviously demands that we escape it however we can.

[Vareiln]

My religion is atheism with symbols and an eternal quest for knowledge.

So...you are a pinko satanist jewlluminazi that wants to impose science (which is really just the worship of Darwin, of course) and Sharia law on peaceful, compassionate and freedom-loving Christians?

Dammit, Liri's onto me! Quick, to the lodge!
*Convenient getaway*

[The Silence of Night]

It's a grim way to look at the meaning of life and humanity as a whole. And people call atheism depressing.

Christianity has a history as a mystical and occult religion, especially in its gnostic forms. It actually gets really dark.

The entire new testament is fairly dark. It's all about a man who gets totally crucified, and then almost all of his followers get brutally murdered or executed.

[Seperates]

BULLSHIT

Judaism is a god where the relationship is like a really benevolent ruler of a vassal. The (vassal) people may cheat and will be punished, but God does love them and will always accept them back because he loves them and cares about them. He works to serve the people so the people work to serve him. It's like a marriage... a really fucked up marriage.

Christian God is more like a Roman god, who re-incarnated on Earth in human form (or through human form) and then committed a blood sacrifice to appease himself for the sins of the world, thus sanctifying humanity though all those that believe in the God-man.

Islam is a God who is an absolute ruler. You must follow his rules absolutely as they are dictated (though the translation changes, unsurprisingly) but God does not serve the people. The people serve God, because he is the father who created them.

Clearly you read it the wrong way.

Take it up with those of the faiths, most now agree that the Abrahamic God is similar. All powerful, all knowing, all seeing.

Also, in that case we should throw in Zoroastrianism in the fray because they started the idea of good vs. evil.

No... That is like saying that Protestants and Catholics believe the same thing. Sure, they generally agree when they are separated, but throw their top theologians in a room together, tell them to come to a single consensus, and just watch the fireworks.

[Vareiln]

My religion is atheism with symbols and an eternal quest for knowledge.

Math?

Buddhism is not sexed up atheism. Neither is Pantheism.

No gods only human ethics.

Scientology is what Christianity would have been like if Jesus had lived in the 60's.

Alright, alright! It's HaruxPool!

I am surprised by how quickly fangirls managed to produce tons of HaruxRin art. I approve wholeheartedly, of course. :3

Heeeeey. You're right~!

Yesh! And I approve as well. *nosebleed*

No. By symbols, I kind of meant to imply something more esoteric.

[Shaggai]

Well if I'm right then it doesn't even matter... Everyone will eventually come to paradise and learn Truth.

Same as if I'm right.

Gren I love ya

And I love you, too.

To me, purgatory is only "where you go to be purged of/atone for your sins." It isn't hell unless it's eternal and can't be swayed.

That's precisely what purgatory is, according to my beliefs. If you were generally a good person in your last life, or if you were generally a bad person, but you learned your lesson and got released from hell, you get reincarnated on Earth.

Then where does paradise come in?

[The Scientific States]

Exactly my point. Which leads us to question, is God just a fraction of our imagination. Conceived to justify actions we take in life

The concept of divinity is born mostly out of fear of death and the unknown. What we don't understand frightens us, and in the ancient we understood so little of our natural world that only divine intervention made sense. Our capacity to reason makes us aware of the inevitability of death, and our survival instinct obviously demands that we escape it however we can.

Indeed, people who were afraid of death created ways to fake people in believing that you don't truly die.

However I think the concept of heaven and hell was mostly developed as a scare tactic.

[Blasveck]

If we're taking this from the Christian standpoint, then that is exactly how it would happen. At least, that's the main theological beliefs.

If its Islam or Judaism, that's another story.

Sucks, don't it?

It's a grim way to look at the meaning of life and humanity as a whole. And people call atheism depressing.

1. Most religions tend to have this idea that humanity is evil and is in need of salvation. Quite a lot of self-hate.
2. While not an atheist, personally, my life has more meaning without a God. Since I don't think there's an afterlife, my single life here on Earth is all I have. Might as well enjoy it.

[Liriena]

So...you are a pinko satanist jewlluminazi that wants to impose science (which is really just the worship of Darwin, of course) and Sharia law on peaceful, compassionate and freedom-loving Christians?

Dammit, Liri's onto me! Quick, to the lodge!
*Convenient getaway*

A lodge? You are a Lodge Cabin Republican as well? Dammit! The New World Order is already here! D:

[BITW]

I used to be pretty selfish which was the only reason I believed in religion. I believed in it because I though a "god" would help me and send me to heaven. I was scared of death because I always kept open minded and listen to my non-religious family members (not immediate family) about their beliefs. I was very scared of there being nothing after death. Scared for like a whole year. But then I grew up. I was still Christian, but less hardcore. I had a friend who was a serious Christian who goes to church all the time and relied on it for everything. Well me and my other friends (kindly) kinda made fun of him because he was a bit crazy with it. After awhile I began noticing after all the points I used when I made fun of him, it made me realize that maybe there wasn't any kind of god, and what I was saying wasn't coming out of my ass. I began researching on the internet. All the biased websites and such, I fully embraced atheism after I realized how exactly ridiculous it actually looked. After I freed myself from religion I felt so much better, and I am now able to lead a nicer less restricted lifestyle, not worrying about a bible or going to church.

[Seitonjin]

Math?

No gods only human ethics.

Heeeeey. You're right~!

Yesh! And I approve as well. *nosebleed*

No. By symbols, I kind of meant to imply something more esoteric.

... So... math right?

Chirp.

[The Scientific States]

Christianity has a history as a mystical and occult religion, especially in its gnostic forms. It actually gets really dark.

The entire new testament is fairly dark. It's all about a man who gets totally crucified, and then almost all of his followers get brutally murdered or executed.

The whole bible is dark. My super fundamentalist, Catholic school expected kids as young as 9 to read the entire bible, and I was one of those kids. It was pretty dark and it made me wonder how god could be all knowing and perfect but allow stuff like that to happen.

[Vareiln]

Dammit, Liri's onto me! Quick, to the lodge!
*Convenient getaway*

A lodge? You are a Lodge Cabin Republican as well? Dammit! The New World Order is already here! D:

I will neither confirm nor deny this statement.

[Seven Suns]

Exactly my point. Which leads us to question, is God just a fraction of our imagination. Conceived to justify actions we take in life

The concept of divinity is born mostly out of fear of death and the unknown. What we don't understand frightens us, and in the ancient we understood so little of our natural world that only divine intervention made sense. Our capacity to reason makes us aware of the inevitability of death, and our survival instinct obviously demands that we escape it however we can.

That's genius. I never thought of it as a survival instinct. What was so obvious escaped me.

[Blasveck]

The entire new testament is fairly dark. It's all about a man who gets totally crucified, and then almost all of his followers get brutally murdered or executed.

The whole bible is dark. My super fundamentalist, Catholic school expected kids as young as 9 to read the entire. bible, and I was one of those kids. It was pretty dark and it made me wonder how god could be all knowing and perfect but allow stuff like that to happen.

"BECAUSE IT'S ALL OUR FAULT."

[Vareiln]

No. By symbols, I kind of meant to imply something more esoteric.

... So... math right?

Chirp.

*Sigh*
No. Just no. My religion is an actual religion.

[Liriena]

However I think the concept of heaven and hell was mostly developed as a scare tactic.

That is also true. It is far easier to impose moral codes on an uneducated populace through the promise of divine retribution.

On a somewhat related note, I always admired the fact that Greek gods were never portrayed as perfect, omnipotent, omniscient, emotionally stable or even morally superior to humans.

Zeus is a horny pansexual prick, and that is never sugarcoated.