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Postby Grenartia » Thu Aug 08, 2013 10:21 pm

Torcularis Septentrionalis wrote:
Vareiln wrote:I was skimming through that post and I missed that until you pointed it out.

You're telling me.
As a rape survivor, let me give it a big motherfucking thumbs down.


Indeed, as the child of a rape survivor.
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Postby The Silence of Night » Thu Aug 08, 2013 10:21 pm

The Grey Wolf wrote:
Avenio wrote:
Odin's boring. The Olympian gods are flawed, three-dimensional figures that act in profoundly human and meaningful ways.


I beg to differ. The Tuatha De Danann are the best.

Less Gods and more a Race of people.
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Postby Blasveck » Thu Aug 08, 2013 10:22 pm

Grenartia wrote:
Torcularis Septentrionalis wrote:You're telling me.
As a rape survivor, let me give it a big motherfucking thumbs down.


Indeed, as the child of a rape survivor.


Damn Gren.
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Postby Grenartia » Thu Aug 08, 2013 10:22 pm

Blasveck wrote:
Grenartia wrote:
Indeed, as the child of a rape survivor.


Damn Gren.


No, I'm not the product of the rape, but still.
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Postby Riiser-Larsen » Thu Aug 08, 2013 10:23 pm

Blasveck wrote:
Grenartia wrote:
Indeed, as the child of a rape survivor.


Damn Gren.


Times like these are when I wish I could give endorsements across regions. It's not much, but it feels nice to give you guys something for what you've been through.
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Postby Torcularis Septentrionalis » Thu Aug 08, 2013 10:23 pm

Grenartia wrote:
Torcularis Septentrionalis wrote:You're telling me.
As a rape survivor, let me give it a big motherfucking thumbs down.


Indeed, as the child of a rape survivor.

:hug:
Same, my mom was raped as a child. I wasn't born directly because of it, but it fucked up her sexual life so bad that I was born.
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Postby The Grey Wolf » Thu Aug 08, 2013 10:24 pm

Torcularis Septentrionalis wrote:
Vareiln wrote:I was skimming through that post and I missed that until you pointed it out.

You're telling me.
As a rape survivor, let me give it a big motherfucking thumbs down.


Nobody deserves that.

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Postby New haven america » Thu Aug 08, 2013 10:24 pm

Southeastern Xiatao wrote:
Torcularis Septentrionalis wrote:I stopped reading when you said rape can be a good thing.



Depends for victim who was raped and gives birth to a child is a good thing if it is raised by the raped victim or sold to adoption. However the person done rape to the victim is highly a bad thing to me.

I'd probably get in trouble if I gave my opinion. :palm: :palm: :palm:
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Postby Seperates » Thu Aug 08, 2013 10:25 pm

Seitonjin wrote:
Seperates wrote:But they aren't in the most crucial ways. Christianity is practically paganism. Rabbinic Judaism is more like the schools of greek philosophy. Islam is like antiquated Judaism.

You are missing the key point. These religions do not draw from the same pools of knowledge, they are related... but not as siblings... more like second cousins once removed. To simply say that they are similar is to deny their differences and deny WHY they are different all for the sake of theological compatibility.

That's an interesting way to look at it.

I never denied their differences, to say something is is similar is to accept that there are differences.

It is to turn the phrase around. They share so few similarities it is astonishing that we even bother on focusing on them, other than as a theological masturbation of "Oh you believe in a singular all-powerful deity, well so do I, right oh, lets show those other wankers what for." Again, the schools of thought are what should be important when talking about the differences in religion, and these schools are radically different, even when they are all the liberal groups of their respective religions.

It would be as incorrect as saying that Zeus and Odin are 'similar'. Now, Jupiter and Zeus is a better comparison... because as we all know... when Rome conquered Greece... Greece conquered Rome.
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Postby Torcularis Septentrionalis » Thu Aug 08, 2013 10:25 pm

New haven america wrote:
Southeastern Xiatao wrote:

Depends for victim who was raped and gives birth to a child is a good thing if it is raised by the raped victim or sold to adoption. However the person done rape to the victim is highly a bad thing to me.

I'd probably get in trouble if I gave my opinion. :palm: :palm: :palm:

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Postby Blasveck » Thu Aug 08, 2013 10:25 pm

New haven america wrote:
Southeastern Xiatao wrote:

Depends for victim who was raped and gives birth to a child is a good thing if it is raised by the raped victim or sold to adoption. However the person done rape to the victim is highly a bad thing to me.

I'd probably get in trouble if I gave my opinion. :palm: :palm: :palm:


Don't worry haven. We all know what you mean.

(Can something like this get reported?)
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Postby Riiser-Larsen » Thu Aug 08, 2013 10:25 pm

New haven america wrote:
Southeastern Xiatao wrote:

Depends for victim who was raped and gives birth to a child is a good thing if it is raised by the raped victim or sold to adoption. However the person done rape to the victim is highly a bad thing to me.

I'd probably get in trouble if I gave my opinion. :palm: :palm: :palm:


Somehow I doubt you can get much worse than saying rape can be good without resorting to a picture of hitler and a neo-nazi rant.
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The Emerald Dawn wrote:I'm pretty tired of discussing serious issues in a serious manner with people who are so divorced from reality that the marriage was not only annulled, any historical records or witnesses to the original marriage were drawn, quartered, burnt, and then boiled in acid and served to hogs.

Thafoo wrote:So I guess leaving a negative environmental footprint now makes you a killer?

This just in: all cows are Hitlers. McDonald's releases the Heilburger.

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Postby Seperates » Thu Aug 08, 2013 10:26 pm

Torcularis Septentrionalis wrote:
Vareiln wrote:I was skimming through that post and I missed that until you pointed it out.

You're telling me.
As a rape survivor, let me give it a big motherfucking thumbs down.

My condolences, and I wish there was a hellfire for the fucker to burn in.
This Debate is simply an exercise in Rhetoric. Truth is a fickle being with no intentions of showing itself today.

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Postby Shaggai » Thu Aug 08, 2013 10:26 pm

Avenio wrote:
Shaggai wrote:Odin is way cooler than Zeus. Zeus is what you get when you give a pompous jerk immortality and thunderbolts. Odin is actually cool.


Odin's boring. The Olympian gods are flawed, three-dimensional figures that act in profoundly human and meaningful ways.

The Norse pantheon are just as three-dimensional. And besides, when Prometheus steals fire, Zeus just ties him to a rock and has an eagle eat his liver. When Loki killed Baldur, he got tied to a rock by his sons entrails and had a snake wrapped around the roots of the World-Tree dripping poison in his eyes for all eternity. Which is a more imaginative punishment?
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Postby Grenartia » Thu Aug 08, 2013 10:27 pm

Torcularis Septentrionalis wrote:
Grenartia wrote:
Indeed, as the child of a rape survivor.

:hug:
Same, my mom was raped as a child. I wasn't born directly because of it, but it fucked up her sexual life so bad that I was born.


:hug:

A woman I'm very close to was raped by her mother. I can only imagine what being raped as a kid is like, but I can safely say its not something I'd wish on my worst enemy, if I had one.
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Postby The Rich Port » Thu Aug 08, 2013 10:27 pm

Torcularis Septentrionalis wrote:
Vareiln wrote:I was skimming through that post and I missed that until you pointed it out.

You're telling me.
As a rape survivor, let me give it a big motherfucking thumbs down.


I'm... So sorry, Torc.

Welp... This summer just got crappier thanks to Xiatao.
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Postby The Grey Wolf » Thu Aug 08, 2013 10:27 pm

The Silence of Night wrote:
The Grey Wolf wrote:
I beg to differ. The Tuatha De Danann are the best.

Less Gods and more a Race of people.


Meh, I think that the Book of Invasions euhemerized the gods, or gave things an entirely different meaning. They're more like elves in some text.
But my ancestors beat the crap out of motherfucking elves. Suck on that Tolkien. :p

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Postby Blasveck » Thu Aug 08, 2013 10:28 pm

Grenartia wrote:
Torcularis Septentrionalis wrote: :hug:
Same, my mom was raped as a child. I wasn't born directly because of it, but it fucked up her sexual life so bad that I was born.


:hug:

A woman I'm very close to was raped by her mother. I can only imagine what being raped as a kid is like, but I can safely say its not something I'd wish on my worst enemy, if I had one.


Sweet Jeus people.

This shouldn't happen. Ever.
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Postby Blasveck » Thu Aug 08, 2013 10:28 pm

Can we report Xi for this?
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Postby Vareiln » Thu Aug 08, 2013 10:29 pm

Shaggai wrote:
Avenio wrote:
Odin's boring. The Olympian gods are flawed, three-dimensional figures that act in profoundly human and meaningful ways.

The Norse pantheon are just as three-dimensional. And besides, when Prometheus steals fire, Zeus just ties him to a rock and has an eagle eat his liver. When Loki killed Baldur, he got tied to a rock by his sons entrails and had a snake wrapped around the roots of the World-Tree dripping poison in his eyes for all eternity. Which is a more imaginative punishment?

Besides, Norse mythology has cooler monsters and creatures.

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Postby Grenartia » Thu Aug 08, 2013 10:29 pm

Torcularis Septentrionalis wrote:
New haven america wrote:I'd probably get in trouble if I gave my opinion. :palm: :palm: :palm:

Every body take a big deep breath and say it with me,
"I will not get banned today."


:lol:

Taking this to AQ.

Blasveck wrote:
Grenartia wrote:
:hug:

A woman I'm very close to was raped by her mother. I can only imagine what being raped as a kid is like, but I can safely say its not something I'd wish on my worst enemy, if I had one.


Sweet Jeus people.

This shouldn't happen. Ever.


Indeed.
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Postby The Grey Wolf » Thu Aug 08, 2013 10:30 pm

Torcularis Septentrionalis wrote:
New haven america wrote:I'd probably get in trouble if I gave my opinion. :palm: :palm: :palm:

Every body take a big deep breath and say it with me,
"I will not get banned today."


I just scream obscenities into the air.
A friend of mine was raped and got an abortion. It was in no way "good" for her. She suffered from stress, paranoia, and had nightmares.

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Postby The Rich Port » Thu Aug 08, 2013 10:30 pm

Southeastern Xiatao wrote:Depends for victim who was raped and gives birth to a child is a good thing if it is raised by the raped victim or sold to adoption. However the person done rape to the victim is highly a bad thing to me.


... You know how there's an "Awesome Quotes Thread"?

I think this is the precursor to the opposite of that.
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FIRE. IF IT TAKES YOU TO BURN.
FIRE. IF IT TAKES YOU TO LEARN.
FIRE. TO DESTROY ALL YOU'VE DONE.
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YOU NEVER KNOW JUST HOW YOU LOOK THROUGH OTHER PEOPLE'S EYES.

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Postby Grenartia » Thu Aug 08, 2013 10:30 pm

Blasveck wrote:Can we report Xi for this?


While its definitely wrong, and inflammatory, I think a mod would say its not purposely inflammatory. [/notamod

But I don't think it could hurt to ask.
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Postby Seperates » Thu Aug 08, 2013 10:31 pm

The Grey Wolf wrote:
Torcularis Septentrionalis wrote:Every body take a big deep breath and say it with me,
"I will not get banned today."


I just scream obscenities into the air.
A friend of mine was raped and got an abortion. It was in no way "good" for her. She suffered from stress, paranoia, and had nightmares.

Whomever says rape is good in any context needs to go and *CENSORED FOR EXPLICT CONTENT*

At least we can agree on that.
This Debate is simply an exercise in Rhetoric. Truth is a fickle being with no intentions of showing itself today.

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