God Kefka wrote:DesAnges wrote:Ad hominem straight off the bat? Cool. Ok, lemme put this another way.
What nations do you personally know of that have fallen precisely because they weren't snooping on their own citizens enough? Can you prove this? Can you back up your comments in any substantial way that will stand up to scrutiny?
Or are you in fact just making a supposition in order to posture over your unpopular opinion of agreeing with the PRISM initiative?
Use your common sense.
If a country doesn't spy while everyone else is spying... sooner or later it loses ground in the information war and other nations will be able to take advantage of covert information to undermine it.
Simple really.
All Snowden has done is weakened the USA's operations.
I never knew so many people here supported betraying the American government... but then I guess, most of you are not Americans and would rather see the nation fall.
Okay so this is your second attempt at dodging a request to source your claims. Now you're insisting Des use common sense? I don't see the connection here. Perhaps I should say if you had common sense you'd be backing up your opinion with something.
God Kefka wrote:If a country doesn't spy while everyone else is spying... sooner or later it loses ground in the information war and other nations will be able to take advantage of covert information to undermine it.
Please do provide an example of this, anything. Until then, you're continuing to be a fountain of unsubstantiated claims.
God Kefka wrote:All Snowden has done is weakened the USA's operations.
That's all he's done, and nothing more? He hasn't revealed to the public how pervasive government surveillance is? If you say so... I mean... you did just say right now all he's done is weaken the USA's operations...and nothing more... so...there's really nothing more Snowden accomplished other than weakening the USA' operations, yup yup.
God Kefka wrote:I never knew so many people here supported betraying the American government... but then I guess, most of you are not Americans and would rather see the nation fall.
What's this now. I wasn't aware I need to be a citizen of any country other than the USA to have a right to be against mass surveillance? How does that work?
Being opposed to PRISM means wanting to see the USA fall? Wut. I don't even...