What should Obama do Since Russia Didn't give back Snowden?

[Farnhamia]

How is this "running away"? Putin's been thumbing his nose at the US for a while now. Giving asylum to a criminal on the lam from US law is just the latest example. And cancelling the summit denies Putin a spotlight moment.

*Sigh*

Don't quit your day job, son, Ah say, don't ...

[Towson]

Obama should make a legal case for Snowden being returned to America for Russia.

Or clam Snowden leaked Russian Documents and Thus make Russia Arrest him.

[Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States]

Obama should make a legal case for Snowden being returned to America for Russia.

Or clam Snowden leaked Russian Documents and Thus make Russia Arrest him.

And Russia is going to believe everything America says about an asylum-seeking American.

[Draakonite]

Which he eats all by himself.

Explains a lot actually.

Hmm, then why does the USA nothing against this system, if its symbolisies everything it doesn't stand for?
Afterall, if the USA is truly the strongest and the best country in the world (you know, the greatest of them all, are the Ultra United States) and no possible ally of North Korea could stop them from bringing FREEDOM to the people, they could have invaded it years ago.

Aimed at these people who have said everyones dependent on the USA.
Is there a sarcasm mode in BBcode?

[Divair]

So NO ONE can afford to sanction or restrict trade with the USA. The USA is too powerful.

That must be the reason why north korea survived for over 60 years...

Might have something to do with all the aid that's being thrown at them. Just a guess.

[Mike the Progressive]

Which he eats all by himself.

Explains a lot actually.

Hmm, then why does the USA nothing against this system, if its symbolisies everything it doesn't stand for?
Afterall, if the USA is truly the strongest and the best country in the world (you know, the greatest of them all, are the Ultra United States) and no possible ally of North Korea could stop them from bringing FREEDOM to the people, they could have invaded it years ago.

Aimed at these people who have said everyones dependent on the USA.
Is there a sarcasm mode in BBcode?

Because Seoul and the rest of the south?

[Frisivisia]

Hmm, then why does the USA nothing against this system, if its symbolisies everything it doesn't stand for?
Afterall, if the USA is truly the strongest and the best country in the world (you know, the greatest of them all, are the Ultra United States) and no possible ally of North Korea could stop them from bringing FREEDOM to the people, they could have invaded it years ago.

Aimed at these people who have said everyones dependent on the USA.
Is there a sarcasm mode in BBcode?

Because Seoul and the rest of the south?

The terms "mass civilian casualties" and "MASH only less Alan Alda" spring to mind.

[Mike the Progressive]

Because Seoul and the rest of the south?

The terms "mass civilian casualties" and "MASH only less Alan Alda" spring to mind.

I still think Hawkeye could make a comeback, as long as he doesn't do any actual surgical work and they don't let him write the script/direct. The last season of MASH was kinda preachy.

[OMGeverynameistaken]

Because Seoul and the rest of the south?

The terms "mass civilian casualties" and "MASH only less Alan Alda" spring to mind.

And "China would rather have NK as a neighbor than the US."

They worry enough over their million miles of border with Russia. I don't think they would respond well to four US carrier groups in the Yellow Sea or a few hundred thousand US soldiers on their border.

And considering what happened last time we went to war with the Chinese, I would say that's something to avoid.

[Draakonite]

The terms "mass civilian casualties" and "MASH only less Alan Alda" spring to mind.

And "China would rather have NK as a neighbor than the US."

They worry enough over their million miles of border with Russia. I don't think they would respond well to four US carrier groups in the Yellow Sea or a few hundred thousand US soldiers on their border.

And considering what happened last time we went to war with the Chinese, I would say that's something to avoid.

Speaking sarcasticaly is far easier than writing sarcasticaly :/

[Mike the Progressive]

The terms "mass civilian casualties" and "MASH only less Alan Alda" spring to mind.

And "China would rather have NK as a neighbor than the US."

They worry enough over their million miles of border with Russia. I don't think they would respond well to four US carrier groups in the Yellow Sea or a few hundred thousand US soldiers on their border.

And considering what happened last time we went to war with the Chinese, I would say that's something to avoid.

That's because we didn't use nuclear weapons, which would have been the time to do so. We could have laid waste to their major cities and not worry about retaliation. Their only advantage over us, both then and now, are their numbers, and their sheer ability to overwhelm us on the battlefield.

[OMGeverynameistaken]

And "China would rather have NK as a neighbor than the US."

They worry enough over their million miles of border with Russia. I don't think they would respond well to four US carrier groups in the Yellow Sea or a few hundred thousand US soldiers on their border.

And considering what happened last time we went to war with the Chinese, I would say that's something to avoid.

That's because we didn't use nuclear weapons, which would have been the time to do so. We could have laid waste to their major cities and not worry about retaliation. Their only advantage over us, both then and now, are their numbers, and their sheer ability to overwhelm us on the battlefield.

And I'd say that not nuking China was probably a good thing. Setting a precedent like that at the start of the cold war probably wouldn't have made it any nicer.

And THEY have nuclear weapons now, which can reach the most populous state in the US, at least. Are you willing to bet the population of California that we can take out the Kim regime without China noticing?

[Gauthier]

Ah, the comedy of people trying to raise Snowden's street creds by calling for his assassination.

[Alouite]

Ah, the comedy of people trying to raise Snowden's street creds by calling for his assassination.

I know it is disgusting right?

[The Rich Port]

Ah, the comedy of people trying to raise Snowden's street creds by calling for his assassination.

I know it is disgusting right?

Downright nauseating.

Worse than the time people tried defending Ark Linkletter for using his daughter's death as an anti-drug statement in cahoots with Nixon.

[Mike the Progressive]

That's because we didn't use nuclear weapons, which would have been the time to do so. We could have laid waste to their major cities and not worry about retaliation. Their only advantage over us, both then and now, are their numbers, and their sheer ability to overwhelm us on the battlefield.

And I'd say that not nuking China was probably a good thing. Setting a precedent like that at the start of the cold war probably wouldn't have made it any nicer.

And THEY have nuclear weapons now, which can reach the most populous state in the US, at least. Are you willing to bet the population of California that we can take out the Kim regime without China noticing?

Well actually I live in Seattle, you know not too far from McChord? Fort Lewis? A naval station or two?

With that said, we could launch a preemptive strike and destroy most of China. They'll probably get off a few missiles that will devastate the west coast, but that's a a sacrifice I'm willing to make. The ends justify the means, and to paraphrase Nietzsche, there is some reason in madness.

[Mike the Progressive]

Ah, the comedy of people trying to raise Snowden's street creds by calling for his assassination.

I know it is disgusting right?

No more so than when people called for Zimmerman's death and Spike Lee tweeted what he thought was his address.

[Bezombia]

Really we should be sanctioning ourselves for being a beeeeetch.

[Ethel mermania]

Obama should invade Egypt, Syria and Libya. And that other one I keep forgetting the name of.

Israel?

france?

[Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States]

Israel?

france?

Canada?

[Bezombia]

france?

Canada?

Cuba?

[OMGeverynameistaken]

And I'd say that not nuking China was probably a good thing. Setting a precedent like that at the start of the cold war probably wouldn't have made it any nicer.

And THEY have nuclear weapons now, which can reach the most populous state in the US, at least. Are you willing to bet the population of California that we can take out the Kim regime without China noticing?

Well actually I live in Seattle, you know not too far from McChord? Fort Lewis? A naval station or two?

With that said, we could launch a preemptive strike and destroy most of China. They'll probably get off a few missiles that will devastate the west coast, but that's a a sacrifice I'm willing to make. The ends justify the means, and to paraphrase Nietzsche, there is some reason in madness.

Seattle is an awful place and you should feel awful for living there.

The principle of mutually assured destruction is that China would not just get off a 'few' missiles. You have plenty of warning when the nukes start flying, considering travel time and so forth. China would get off ALL of their launch-ready missiles. They would probably hit Japan and South Korea too, as major US allies, and might even just say "fuck it" and launch all of their missiles regardless of target, since everybody else would probably start launching theirs once they got word that Beijing was going to be turned into a glass crater.

[Gauthier]

Ah, the comedy of people trying to raise Snowden's street creds by calling for his assassination.

I know it is disgusting right?

Farcical really. Nothing more than a typewriting monkey who didn't break any sophisticated encryption scheme, just downloaded shit belonging to a government agency so fucking expansive they need subcontractors to handle their stuff. Yep, real secure.

Plus trying to act like he's in the ranks of Ames or Hansen by calling for him to be killed and boycotting Russian crap is just giving him more street creds and giving Putin lulz. Just leave him alone in Russia, where his determination to be a human rights activist will eventually win him a free cup of Litvinenko Chai Masala.

[The Vermin Confederation of Mossflower]

Do what he does best, go around the world and apologize for the US.

we need a good leader

someone strong

someone that can shoot down a civilian airliner give the guys who did it a medal and go "lol im not apologizing for ameria i dont care what the facts are fuck you"

the the kind of leader America deserves.. but not the one it needs right now

[Mike the Progressive]

Well actually I live in Seattle, you know not too far from McChord? Fort Lewis? A naval station or two?

With that said, we could launch a preemptive strike and destroy most of China. They'll probably get off a few missiles that will devastate the west coast, but that's a a sacrifice I'm willing to make. The ends justify the means, and to paraphrase Nietzsche, there is some reason in madness.

Seattle is an awful place and you should feel awful for living there.

The principle of mutually assured destruction is that China would not just get off a 'few' missiles. You have plenty of warning when the nukes start flying, considering travel time and so forth. China would get off ALL of their launch-ready missiles. They would probably hit Japan and South Korea too, as major US allies, and might even just say "fuck it" and launch all of their missiles regardless of target, since everybody else would probably start launching theirs once they got word that Beijing was going to be turned into a glass crater.

How dare you? Seattle is an awesome place and I feel proud to live here. Minus the brown-bag/citizen crap and grunge.