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What should Obama do Since Russia Didn't give back Snowden?

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What should Obama and the US do in retaliation to Russia?

-Boycott G-20 Summit
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3%
-Boycott the Olympics
36
6%
- Cut communication and place sanctions on Russia
53
9%
- Nothing
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73%
-other (explain)
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10%
 
Total votes : 611

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What should Obama do Since Russia Didn't give back Snowden?

Postby American Pride » Sat Aug 03, 2013 12:30 pm

So people of NS we all know that Russia Refused to give back alleged NSA leakier Edward Snoweden and they granted him Asylum for one year. But what should Obama do? Should he boycott the next G-20 Summit in Russia? Or should he Boycott the upcoming Olympics in Russia? But if he does chose to do either one of those will a modern Cold war happen? I want your opinions on the matter of this hot topic. Finally do you think that Obama is being a doormat for Putin? I thought of making this topic after reading this article http://news.yahoo.com/snowden-loose-law ... itics.html It seems that both Parties want the president to act.

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Postby Shofercia » Sat Aug 03, 2013 12:31 pm

Over Snowden? Nothing. Although Obama should give McCain a bucket for tears :P
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Postby Mkuki » Sat Aug 03, 2013 12:32 pm

Keep "condemning" Russia for being freedom haters. Seriously, though, there's already a thread on Snowden Asylum-gate.
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Postby Astrolinium » Sat Aug 03, 2013 12:34 pm

Nothing.

We should be doing the second and third thing on the poll, but for reasons that are actually important, such as the fact that Russia's a shithole.
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Postby Mike the Progressive » Sat Aug 03, 2013 12:36 pm

Nothing. This is the typical exchange of "fuck you" between the US and Russia and has defined our relations with them for roughly 100 years.

I say we give one of their dissidents a safe haven in the US as a nice little tit for tat.

But as this is Obama, whose spine is weaker than an old man's erection, we will probably create a new START treaty, except this time the Russians get to keep all their nukes and we will reduce our arsenal to 10.

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Postby Avenio » Sat Aug 03, 2013 12:36 pm

Clearly the only reasonable response is to initiate a nuclear first strike against Russia.

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Postby Geilinor » Sat Aug 03, 2013 12:39 pm

Nothing. I do wish someone would boycott the Olympics because of the strict anti-homosexuality laws that athletes will have to follow though.
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Postby American Pride » Sat Aug 03, 2013 12:39 pm

Mike the Progressive wrote:Nothing. This is the typical exchange of "fuck you" between the US and Russia and has defined our relations with them for roughly 100 years.

I say we give one of their dissidents a safe haven in the US as a nice little tit for tat.

But as this is Obama, whose spine is weaker than an old man's erection, we will probably create a new START treaty, except this time the Russians get to keep all their nukes and we will reduce our arsenal to 10.



Very True man Obama's Forge-in policy is a joke Most foreign leaders view him as a human doormat lol. And the Whole START thing was also a epic waste of time. We should just cut communications from them. For they are always going to hate us

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Postby Geilinor » Sat Aug 03, 2013 12:40 pm

American Pride wrote:
Mike the Progressive wrote:Nothing. This is the typical exchange of "fuck you" between the US and Russia and has defined our relations with them for roughly 100 years.

I say we give one of their dissidents a safe haven in the US as a nice little tit for tat.

But as this is Obama, whose spine is weaker than an old man's erection, we will probably create a new START treaty, except this time the Russians get to keep all their nukes and we will reduce our arsenal to 10.



Very True man Obama's Forge-in policy is a joke Most foreign leaders view him as a human doormat lol. And the Whole START thing was also a epic waste of time. We should just cut communications from them. For they are always going to hate us

No, most leaders do not view Obama as a human doormat. http://thinkprogress.org/security/2012/06/13/498771/obama-global-public-opinion/ Even as the approval rating of the US declines abroad, Obama remains popular. He's always been more popular in other developed countries than he is at home. http://www.pewglobal.org/2010/06/17/obama-more-popular-abroad-than-at-home/
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Postby Soviet Russia Republic » Sat Aug 03, 2013 12:41 pm

Nothing he can do will force Snowden to be given. He should do nothing.
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Postby Mike the Progressive » Sat Aug 03, 2013 12:41 pm

American Pride wrote:
Mike the Progressive wrote:Nothing. This is the typical exchange of "fuck you" between the US and Russia and has defined our relations with them for roughly 100 years.

I say we give one of their dissidents a safe haven in the US as a nice little tit for tat.

But as this is Obama, whose spine is weaker than an old man's erection, we will probably create a new START treaty, except this time the Russians get to keep all their nukes and we will reduce our arsenal to 10.



Very True man Obama's Forge-in policy is a joke Most foreign leaders view him as a human doormat lol. And the Whole START thing was also a epic waste of time. We should just cut communications from them. For they are always going to hate us


I wouldn't say that. Dialogue is important, especially with a nation who has a large nuclear arsenal. I just think when Obama says something, there's a 50-50 shot he probably won't carry through with it.

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Postby Nightkill the Emperor » Sat Aug 03, 2013 12:43 pm

Get drunk and go go-karting with Putin.

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Postby The Carlisle » Sat Aug 03, 2013 12:43 pm

I don't think President Obama cares enough to do anything about Snowden and Russia.
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Postby Shofercia » Sat Aug 03, 2013 12:44 pm

American Pride wrote:
Mike the Progressive wrote:Nothing. This is the typical exchange of "fuck you" between the US and Russia and has defined our relations with them for roughly 100 years.

I say we give one of their dissidents a safe haven in the US as a nice little tit for tat.

But as this is Obama, whose spine is weaker than an old man's erection, we will probably create a new START treaty, except this time the Russians get to keep all their nukes and we will reduce our arsenal to 10.



Very True man Obama's Forge-in policy is a joke Most foreign leaders view him as a human doormat lol. And the Whole START thing was also a epic waste of time. We should just cut communications from them. For they are always going to hate us


We don't hate you:

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Unless you back those who invade us. So don't do that anymore. Thank you :)

I'll go over the "poor periods".

2003 - US invades Iraq
2005/2006 - US fails to see reality in Chechnya
2009 - America's response to the Ossetian War was as abysmal as Stalin's Pravda. Come on, do better than Stalin's "honesty" please.
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Postby Mike the Progressive » Sat Aug 03, 2013 12:44 pm

Shofercia wrote:
Unless you back those who invade us. So don't do that anymore. Thank you :)


Did we ever?

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Postby Blasveck » Sat Aug 03, 2013 12:47 pm

He won't do anything.

What he SHOULD do is give Snowden a goddamn medal.

Ironic, that he had to go to Authoritarian Russia to escape America.
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Postby The blood ravens » Sat Aug 03, 2013 12:49 pm

Mkuki wrote:Keep "condemning" Russia for being freedom haters. Seriously, though, there's already a thread on Snowden Asylum-gate.

Add gate to the end of something, and BAM a name for a scandal.

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Postby Shofercia » Sat Aug 03, 2013 12:51 pm

Mike the Progressive wrote:
Shofercia wrote:
Unless you back those who invade us. So don't do that anymore. Thank you :)


Did we ever?


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Yes.
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Postby Mike the Progressive » Sat Aug 03, 2013 12:55 pm

Shofercia wrote:
Mike the Progressive wrote:
Did we ever?


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Yes.


Ah yes, I forgot the Great Georgian Invasion of Russia in August of 2008.

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Postby Alyekra » Sat Aug 03, 2013 12:56 pm

Give Russia a prize.
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Postby Shofercia » Sat Aug 03, 2013 12:57 pm

Mike the Progressive wrote:
Shofercia wrote:
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Ah yes, I forgot the Great Georgian Invasion of Russia in August of 2008.


Hitting a legitimately stationed peacekeeping base is the equivalent of hitting an embassy. How would the US react if Cuba overran Gitmo and the US Embassy in Havana?
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Postby Mkuki » Sat Aug 03, 2013 12:58 pm

Shofercia wrote:
Mike the Progressive wrote:
Did we ever?


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Handshakes and photo-ops are now evidence of invasion-backing? Well, shit...
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Postby Nigerian Kenya » Sat Aug 03, 2013 12:59 pm

Nothing that would involve starting a war. Anything else - fine.

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Postby 4years » Sat Aug 03, 2013 1:01 pm

Mike the Progressive wrote:
Shofercia wrote:
Unless you back those who invade us. So don't do that anymore. Thank you :)


Did we ever?


The US itself has invade Russia, along with a whole host of other nations. The Russian intervention against the Bolshevik revolution was a thing.
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