American officers request to be exempt from Canadian law

[Hurdegaryp]

It seems quite a natural assumption after some of the USA's excesses post 9/11 I suppose.

Yeah, well, thanks, Dick Cheney, I suppose. Pro-tip: America is not that interested in suppressing Canadian sovereignty.

Except those Americans that consider it to be a disgrace to share a border with a country that has more in common with Europe when it comes to social policies than it does with the "winner takes all" mentality so prevalent in US society.

[Farnhamia]

Yeah, well, thanks, Dick Cheney, I suppose. Pro-tip: America is not that interested in suppressing Canadian sovereignty.

Except those Americans that consider it to be a disgrace to share a border with a country that has more in common with Europe when it comes to social policies than it does with the "winner takes all" mentality so prevalent in US society.

Yeah, all six of them. Come on, this program has been going on since 2011. It's designed to make commercial transport and personal travel across the US/Canadian border faster and easier. It would mean, among other things ...

- Not having to clear baggage at U.S. airports if it has already been cleared in Canada.

- Border crossings should move faster, with commercial traffic getting more dedicated lanes and technology to move them through faster.

- Wait times measured and posted at border crossings.

- Consumer health products that have already been approved in the U.S. could get faster approval in Canada, with regulatory bodies sharing information and adjusting labelling standards to make it easier to market a product in both countries.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/story/2 ... meter.html

[Ethel mermania]

Yeah, well, thanks, Dick Cheney, I suppose. Pro-tip: America is not that interested in suppressing Canadian sovereignty.

Except those Americans that consider it to be a disgrace to share a border with a country that has more in common with Europe when it comes to social policies than it does with the "winner takes all" mentality so prevalent in US society.

then why are they trying to make it easier for canadian people and goods to enter the us?

[Phocidaea]

Misleading poll is misleading. I think the police things is just confusing and pointless, but it's not exactly "American subjugation of Canada". Should've realized it would be turned into something about "imperialism" or "subjugation" as soon as I read "Luziyca".

No, I do not support "American subjugation of Canada". I support the two cooperating and having closer relations (Why the fuck is there any security at the border? It's Canada!), but I don't support making Canada the next few states, at least not now . If the US benefits more (Canada still would, of course) from cooperation between the two, that's because it's much larger. That's how the world works. Tough.

For what it's worth, I couldn't even figure out what the police agreement was supposed to mean. I can't think of any possible implications beyond the obvious surface-level changes.

[Ashmoria]

probably shooting people. cops in the US almost never get in trouble for shooting someone in the line of duty. even when they are egregiously wrong and maybe even murderous, they might get to trial but they don't get convicted.

Is that a difference in the actual law, though, or merely a difference in its application?

In other words, are cops in the US allowed to kill people for different reasons than they would be in Canada?

I don't know anything about Canadian law but I expect that there are differences. and that things might happen that the general Canadian citizen might find horrifying and they want someone punished for and its easier to prosecute a foreigner than a Mountie.

I don't see anything else that it could be other than different laws and standards on either side of the border. its not like they are going to let US officers chase a suspect into Canada then rob a 7-11 while they are over there.

its something that Canada should take a good long think about.

[Napkiraly]

Well, it is not much of a joint operation when you let the officers operating in a host country to be tried in the country of which they came from.

Oh, come on. Your own OP says:

But senior Mounties recommended to Paulson that the RCMP participate in the development of options, "ensuring that law enforcement concerns are properly addressed, rather than taking a firm stance on retaining the status quo."

Any new model must be fully reciprocal, providing Canadian police with the same protections in the United States as granted to U.S. law enforcement officials working in Canada, adds the RCMP briefing note.

"This may alleviate any concerns that there may be with respect to RCMP members being subjected to the U.S. court system."

The Canadians want the same indulgence when working here.

We want the same deal if the Americans get the exemption. I personally don't want Americans exempted from Canadian law while they are on Canadian soil.

[Wind in the Willows]

If an American officer breaks Canadian law, they should be prosecuted like any other citizen of Canada would. Just because you are in the police force does not give you the right to break it.

[Ethel mermania]

If an American officer breaks Canadian law, they should be prosecuted like any other citizen of Canada would. Just because you are in the police force does not give you the right to break it.

the ex-terrritoriality is only for enforcing this particular agreement, underwhich the people and goods are bound accross the border.

an american cop stealing a tim hortons donut would still be prosecuted under canadian law in a canadian court.

[Republic of South Carolina]

I support it. I hope LEOSA(HR218 if you want to look it up) is addressed.

[Farnhamia]

Oh, come on. Your own OP says:


The Canadians want the same indulgence when working here.

We want the same deal if the Americans get the exemption. I personally don't want Americans exempted from Canadian law while they are on Canadian soil.

But then, no one asked you, did they? *summons Guards*

[Mike the Progressive]

Canada has laws?

[Jamjai]

No, I don't support American laws in Canadian border. We have to respect each others lands.

America forcing laws?

[The United Soviet Socialist Republic]

What the hell? If American police officers go to Canada, they should have to follow the Canadian law./Thread

[Farnhamia]

Canada has laws?

We indulge them, Dick. After all, look where they live, all the time frozen except for two weeks in late July and then, the mosquitoes.

[Farnhamia]

No, I don't support American laws in Canadian border. We have to respect each others lands.

America forcing laws?

Forcing nothing.

What the hell? If American police officers go to Canada, they should have to follow the Canadian law./Thread

Funny how the Canadians proposing having the same indulgence if the American proposal was agreed to.

[Jamjai]

Forcing nothing.

Idk thats something the poll said

[Mike the Progressive]

Forcing nothing.

Idk thats something the poll said

And we all know polls on the internet never lie. Just like everything else on the internet.

[Libertarian California]

What bandits could American cops possibly be chasing into Canada anyways?

If an outlaw crosses the border, then let the Mounties chase after him.

[The blood ravens]

What bandits could American cops possibly be chasing into Canada anyways?

If an outlaw crosses the border, then let the Mounties chase after him.

Probably someone smuggling money they got from selling maple syrup that they smuggled over the border.

Anyways I think this is rediculous. I wouldn't want a bunch of Canadian cops running around exempted from our laws.

[Zavea]

the joke's on them because canada has no laws. we're a smoldering anarchic wasteland

[Geilinor]

I have a question. Are police brutality and use of force laws stricter in Canada? If so, these police officers are being ridiculous and just want free rein to do whatever they want.

[Geilinor]

the joke's on them because canada has no laws. we're a smoldering anarchic wasteland

[Geilinor]

Misleading poll is misleading. I think the police things is just confusing and pointless, but it's not exactly "American subjugation of Canada". Should've realized it would be turned into something about "imperialism" or "subjugation" as soon as I read "Luziyca".

No, I do not support "American subjugation of Canada". I support the two cooperating and having closer relations (Why the fuck is there any security at the border? It's Canada!), but I don't support making Canada the next few states, at least not now . If the US benefits more (Canada still would, of course) from cooperation between the two, that's because it's much larger. That's how the world works. Tough.

For what it's worth, I couldn't even figure out what the police agreement was supposed to mean. I can't think of any possible implications beyond the obvious surface-level changes.

The article said that the laws are essentially the same, so I don't see the point either.

[The Serbian Empire]

The US might as well annex Canada if they're wanting to do this. On second thought, that's a bad idea.

[Hetalian Indie Rio de Janeiro]

The US might as well annex Canada if they're wanting to do this. On second thought, that's a bad idea.

Why?

It'd make the United States much more liberal and politically conscient. It'd be a service in the name of both world peace and anti-corporatism.