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Postby West Angola » Thu Aug 01, 2013 9:08 am

Aquafireland wrote:It says so in numerous religious books in the world.

The sections pertaining to such are not to be taken literally.
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Postby Slafstopia » Thu Aug 01, 2013 9:08 am

Aquafireland wrote:
Ethan Foley wrote:Yes I am aware of evolution. God did not just create us all. If you think he did, give me proof.

It says so in numerous religious books in the world.


And it says the complete opposite in every modern biology textbook. Now, which is more reputable - a modern book, guided by science, or a book that was written solely to increase the power of one's political beliefs.
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Postby Nationalist State of Knox » Thu Aug 01, 2013 9:09 am

Aquafireland wrote:
Vazdania wrote:Of course we didn't evolve from apes, if we did evolve (which I'm not saying we did) we would have evolved from an ancestral primate.

We didn't evolve from anything. God created the human. Period.

Don't you mean gods, not god?
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Postby Neo Rome Republic » Thu Aug 01, 2013 9:09 am

Aquafireland wrote:
Ethan Foley wrote:Yes I am aware of evolution. God did not just create us all. If you think he did, give me proof.

It says so in numerous religious books in the world.


I already told you, fairy tales are NOT proof. There are also stories of vampires, in many different cultures, guess that means vampires exist. :lol2:
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Postby Genivaria » Thu Aug 01, 2013 9:09 am

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Unless you invent a time machine and follow EVERY POSSIBLE SPECIES that could have made us we will never know! So, again, it is pointless to debate.
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Postby Aquafireland » Thu Aug 01, 2013 9:09 am

Des-Bal wrote:
Aquafireland wrote:It says so in numerous religious books in the world.


Numerous contradictory religious books. If it's just the bulk of books that matters and not any actual evidence then you just proved elves, dragons, fairies, and interdimensional travel all exist.

You are atheist, I believe. Well, you and I believe different thongs, apparently. Are you saying that you are denying the words of Allah?
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Postby The Scientific States » Thu Aug 01, 2013 9:09 am

Aquafireland wrote:
Vazdania wrote:Of course we didn't evolve from apes, if we did evolve (which I'm not saying we did) we would have evolved from an ancestral primate.

We didn't evolve from anything. God created the human. Period.


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Postby Britcan » Thu Aug 01, 2013 9:09 am

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Britcan wrote:Yes, beyond all reasonable doubt.


That's all theory. Just as Creationism.

It's not a matter of reason, it's a matter of personal tendence.

Scholasticism is not the only way to reach the truth.

Creationism isn't a theory, not in the scientific sense. A better term for creationism would be a hypothesis or an idea.

Evolution is a theory in the scientific sense, much like gravity. Not accepting evolution is as ridiculous as not accepting gravity.

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Postby State of the Church » Thu Aug 01, 2013 9:10 am

NEO Rome Republic wrote:
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That's all theory. Just as Creationism.

It's not a matter of reason, it's a matter of personal tendence.

Scholasticism is not the only way to reach the truth.


Creationism is not a Scientific theory. Please learn the difference between a layman's definition of theory and a Scientific one. http://www.livescience.com/21491-what-i ... heory.html


When I say "theory" I mean "hypothetical". Evolutionism is an hypothesis just as Creationism.

We cannot say which one is true and which not.
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Postby Neoconstantius » Thu Aug 01, 2013 9:10 am

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Neoconstantius wrote:That's not the "scientific consensus" I encountered in any of my biology/evolution/microbiology/anatomy/physiology/rheumatology/ courses. Who are you to speak definitively on scientific consensus? Are you in the field? The reality is there is no consensus as there is no evidence one way or another, there can be no scientific opinion on the matter.


Yes there is. "There is no evidence to suggest this is necessary" is a consensus.

In regard to evolution, there is no evidence either way and it cannot be definitively discounted, so there is no consensus. Science cannot theorize or establish consensus on matters for which there is no evidence.
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Postby Bentrada » Thu Aug 01, 2013 9:10 am

Aquafireland wrote:
Des-Bal wrote:
Numerous contradictory religious books. If it's just the bulk of books that matters and not any actual evidence then you just proved elves, dragons, fairies, and interdimensional travel all exist.

You are atheist, I believe. Well, you and I believe different thongs, apparently. Are you saying that you are denying the words of Allah?


Allah? Please...
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Postby Aquafireland » Thu Aug 01, 2013 9:10 am

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Aquafireland wrote:It says so in numerous religious books in the world.


I already told you, fairy tales are NOT proof.

Do you think the Bible or whatever religious book you believe in is a fairy tale?
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Postby Des-Bal » Thu Aug 01, 2013 9:10 am

Aquafireland wrote:You think God is an as whole? Please, enlighten me with all the other things He does that have negative effect.


We're literally programmed to enjoy violating his laws. If God is all powerful and all knowing then literally everything that happens is either being allowed by him or being caused by him.
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Postby Genivaria » Thu Aug 01, 2013 9:11 am

Aquafireland wrote:
Des-Bal wrote:
Numerous contradictory religious books. If it's just the bulk of books that matters and not any actual evidence then you just proved elves, dragons, fairies, and interdimensional travel all exist.

You are atheist, I believe. Well, you and I believe different thongs, apparently. Are you saying that you are denying the words of Allah?

There's no evidence that any god exists so yeah.
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Postby State of the Church » Thu Aug 01, 2013 9:11 am

Evolution is a theory in the scientific sense, much like gravity. Not accepting evolution is as ridiculous as not accepting gravity.


No, gravity is proved by experience. Evolution can't be proved through experience.
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Postby Furious Grandmothers » Thu Aug 01, 2013 9:11 am

Aquafireland wrote:
The Holy Therns wrote:
...Say books written by humans.

Let me auto-correct that for you. I think you meant to say written by God.

Did the book appear out of nowhere, with all its text filled out? No. Humans wrote it. They might have been inspired, they may have been instructed, but ultimately humans were the ones to wield the pen.
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Postby The Holy Therns » Thu Aug 01, 2013 9:11 am

Aquafireland wrote:
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...Say books written by humans.

Let me auto-correct that for you. I think you meant to say written by God.


...Say the books. See the problem here?
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Postby Conscentia » Thu Aug 01, 2013 9:11 am

Aquafireland wrote:
Des-Bal wrote:
Numerous contradictory religious books. If it's just the bulk of books that matters and not any actual evidence then you just proved elves, dragons, fairies, and interdimensional travel all exist.

You are atheist, I believe. Well, you and I believe different thongs, apparently. Are you saying that you are denying the words of Allah?

This is an English forum - not an Arabic forum. Why do you not write "God"?
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Postby Neo Rome Republic » Thu Aug 01, 2013 9:11 am

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I already told you, fairy tales are NOT proof.

Do you think the Bible or whatever religious book you believe in is a fairy tale?


I feel insulted, why the hell do think I'm a Christian?
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Postby Ethan Foley » Thu Aug 01, 2013 9:11 am

Aquafireland wrote:
NEO Rome Republic wrote:
I already told you, fairy tales are NOT proof.

Do you think the Bible or whatever religious book you believe in is a fairy tale?


What's stopping him from saying so?
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Postby Neoconstantius » Thu Aug 01, 2013 9:11 am

Aquafireland wrote:
Des-Bal wrote:
Numerous contradictory religious books. If it's just the bulk of books that matters and not any actual evidence then you just proved elves, dragons, fairies, and interdimensional travel all exist.

You are atheist, I believe. Well, you and I believe different thongs, apparently. Are you saying that you are denying the words of Allah?

:rofl:

I'm so immature.
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Bentrada wrote:
Aquafireland wrote:You are atheist, I believe. Well, you and I believe different thongs, apparently. Are you saying that you are denying the words of Allah?


Allah? Please...

Yes, Allah. I am a Muslim and I will call my Lord what it suggest we call Him in the Qur'an.
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Postby Genivaria » Thu Aug 01, 2013 9:11 am

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Evolution is a theory in the scientific sense, much like gravity. Not accepting evolution is as ridiculous as not accepting gravity.


No, gravity is proved by experience. Evolution can't be proved through experience.

What the hell does 'Proved by experience' even mean? :eyebrow:
They are both measurable, observable, proven facts.
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Postby Nationalist State of Knox » Thu Aug 01, 2013 9:11 am

Aquafireland wrote:
NEO Rome Republic wrote:
I already told you, fairy tales are NOT proof.

Do you think the Bible or whatever religious book you believe in is a fairy tale?

No, the Enuma Elish is factual, unlike your Qur'an
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Postby The Scientific States » Thu Aug 01, 2013 9:12 am

State of the Church wrote:
Evolution is a theory in the scientific sense, much like gravity. Not accepting evolution is as ridiculous as not accepting gravity.


No, gravity is proved by experience. Evolution can't be proved through experience.


Gravity has never been proved, it's still just a theory.
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