Do you believe in Evolution?

[The Truth and Light]

So you do reject the scientific consensus.

Your teachers should be punished. Theology does not belong in Biology.

Are you here claiming that the current scientific consensus is that the theory of evolution is incompatible with the claim that God exists and guided the direction of evolution?

It is. Evolution is not guided by an intelligence, there is no reason to believe it is.

[Des-Bal]

Genesis 2:7 "God formed man from the dust of the ground..."
I just interpreted that as man came from what was already here as in the primates from which we evolved.

The great thing about the bible is that when it's incompatible with the observable truth you can just reinterpret it.

[Conscentia]

Very little of our DNA derives from Neanderthals. They were not incorporated.

It's something like 2~4% right?

I think so.

[Genivaria]

So you do reject the scientific consensus.

Your teachers should be punished. Theology does not belong in Biology.

Are you here claiming that the current scientific consensus is that the theory of evolution is incompatible with the claim that God exists and guided the direction of evolution?

The current scientific consensus is that God is not required.

[State of the Church]

Its pretty much proven

Really?

[Alidina]

And we made good and sure that we are the only extant species of the Homo genus, we genocided all of our a fellow Homo somethings. So every single human on earth is here today because their earliest ancestor took a rock to some ones else head better than that someone else could do to them. humans demented version of survival of the fittest, got to love it. [...]

This is a inaccurate view of history.

Homo Sapiens survived while Homo Neanderthalensis did not because Neanderthalensis had inferior social skills and shorter childhoods.

How would a shorter childhood do anything to the long term survival of a species? as for the social skills, The lack there of lead to their brains being bashed out bit.

"Hypotheses on the fate of the Neanderthals include a failure or inability to adapt to climate change, competitive exclusion, or genocide by encroaching anatomically modern humans, who arrived in Europe long after Neanderthals had settled there.[2] Neanderthal hybridization with early modern human populations is also considered a viable hypothesis, and there is genetic evidence to support the idea that this occurred to some extent."
wiki so not the most reliable source but good for showing Im not pulling this out of nowhere as genocide is is one of the theories of what happen to them.

[Genivaria]

Its pretty much proven

Really?

Yes really. Try looking at the evidence that has been posted in this thread already.
Better yet an entire thread OP was dedicated to it.
viewtopic.php?f=20&t=254663

[Britcan]

Its pretty much proven

Really?

Yes, beyond all reasonable doubt.

[Neoconstantius]

Are you here claiming that the current scientific consensus is that the theory of evolution is incompatible with the claim that God exists and guided the direction of evolution?

It is. Evolution is not guided by an intelligence, there is no reason to believe it is.

There is no reason to believe it is not.

[Neo Rome Republic]

It is. Evolution is not guided by an intelligence, there is no reason to believe it is.

There is no reason to believe it is not.

Poor Design. And burden of proof.

[Vazeckta]

Genesis 2:7 "God formed man from the dust of the ground..."
I just interpreted that as man came from what was already here as in the primates from which we evolved.

The great thing about the bible is that when it's incompatible with the observable truth you can just reinterpret it.

You hit the nail on the head.

[Des-Bal]

There is no reason to believe it is not.

There's the fact that no evidence suggests it is. You should never default to belief.

[Genivaria]

It is. Evolution is not guided by an intelligence, there is no reason to believe it is.

There is no reason to believe it is not.

So you believe any nonsense that's even remotely possible no matter how outlandish?
I doubt that.

[The Tovian Way]

God plays no part in the scientific consensus.

The current scientific consensus is that God is not required.

Exactly, the existence or guidance of God in evolution is unaddressed by the theory of evolution, neither the claim that He does exist and did so intervene, nor the claim that He does not exist or that He did not so intervene. Those who hold to the theory of evolution are therefore free to claim either that God exists and guided evolution or that He does not exist or did not guide evolution, as the theory itself makes no claims contradicting either.
Thus, the proponent of theistic evolution is in no way in violation of the scientific consensus.

[Conscentia]

It is. Evolution is not guided by an intelligence, there is no reason to believe it is.

There is no reason to believe it is not.

Please look up the role of the null hypothesis in science.

[Athartha]

I certainly do believe in evolution. Biology has always been one of my favourite subjects, and why I chose to get a degree in it.
But I am a Theistic Evolutionist.

[The Truth and Light]

It is. Evolution is not guided by an intelligence, there is no reason to believe it is.

There is no reason to believe it is not.

Lack of evidence? The fact that god is not needed?

There is no reason to believe it is not.

Poor Design.

That too. God is a shoddy designer and an asshole.

[Britcan]

It is. Evolution is not guided by an intelligence, there is no reason to believe it is.

There is no reason to believe it is not.

There's no reason to believe there's not an undetectable hyper-intelligent aubergine following you around. You shouldn't start from a position of believing everything until it's disproven.

[Genivaria]

God plays no part in the scientific consensus.

The current scientific consensus is that God is not required.

Exactly, the existence or guidance of God in evolution is unaddressed by the theory of evolution, neither the claim that He does exist and did so intervene, nor the claim that He does not exist or that He did not so intervene. Those who hold to the theory of evolution are therefore free to claim either that God exists and guided evolution or that He does not exist or did not guide evolution, as the theory itself makes no claims contradicting either.
Thus, the proponent of theistic evolution is in no way in violation of the scientific consensus.

Either prove it or stop trying to dishonestly shoe horn your god in.

[Conscentia]

God plays no part in the scientific consensus.

The current scientific consensus is that God is not required.

Exactly, the existence or guidance of God in evolution is unaddressed by the theory of evolution, neither the claim that He does exist and did so intervene, nor the claim that He does not exist or that He did not so intervene. Those who hold to the theory of evolution are therefore free to claim either that God exists and guided evolution or that He does not exist or did not guide evolution, as the theory itself makes no claims contradicting either.
Thus, the proponent of theistic evolution is in no way in violation of the scientific consensus.

The absence of evidence to suggest divine guidance does contradict the theistic view from the scientific perspective.

Please look up the role of the null hypothesis in science.

[Ruridova]

Yes.

[Aquafireland]

Every theory even containing an animal is negative. God created Adam and Eve from dirt, and then they brought lots of babies, which then gave birth and so on.

...Say books written by humans.

Let me auto-correct that for you. I think you meant to say written by God.

[Neo Rome Republic]

Reason to not believe in God:Poor Design along with, Occams Razor.

[Conscentia]

...Say books written by humans.

Let me auto-correct that for you. I think you meant to say written by God.

Evidence?

[State of the Church]

Really?

Yes, beyond all reasonable doubt.

That's all theory. Just as Creationism.

It's not a matter of reason, it's a matter of personal tendence.

Scholasticism is not the only way to reach the truth.