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Postby Liberated Counties » Thu Aug 01, 2013 7:40 am

Tsuntion wrote:
Einsiev wrote:There is no such thing as 'Evolution'.


Here are some examples of observed evolution. The changes are generally not major because we have not had very long to observe these animals.

Single-celled organisms evolving to multi-celled ones. This was under artificial selection pressure, but was a simple process that could easily happen outside the lab.
Bird wings shortening to avoid cars.
Allele frequency changing in moths for better camouflage on trees. Please note that this particular case did not involve genetic mutations.
Bacteria evolving many different features. The results are described on Wikipedia.
Elephants losing tusks to avoid poachers.
Fish developing a gene allowing them to survive a toxic river.
Lizards losing limbs in order to travel better on sand.
Other lizards evolving to give birth to live young, the better to incubate eggs (since they're kept warm in the body).
More lizards still rewiring their guts when placed in a new ecosystem.


Obviously is is teh lawd giving them these abilities because he is omnibenevolent

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Postby Aquafireland » Thu Aug 01, 2013 7:43 am

Einsiev wrote:There is no such thing as 'Evolution'. God created us all. We never 'evolved' from apes.

The theme of us evlolving from apes is just absolutely absurd. Seriously guys, get real.
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Postby Conscentia » Thu Aug 01, 2013 7:44 am

Aquafireland wrote:
Einsiev wrote:There is no such thing as 'Evolution'. God created us all. We never 'evolved' from apes.

The theme of us evlolving from apes is just absolutely absurd. Seriously guys, get real.

Firstly: Sir, please read: http://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=20&t=254663
Secondly: All humans are apes.
Humans (Homo sapiens) are primates of the family Hominidae (Great apes), and the only extant species of the genus Homo.

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Postby Aldheim » Thu Aug 01, 2013 7:45 am

The theme of us evlolving from apes is just absolutely absurd.


Science disagrees.
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Postby Aquafireland » Thu Aug 01, 2013 7:45 am

Conscentia wrote:
Einsiev wrote:I'm not an ape.

All humans are apes.

Humans (Homo sapiens) are primates of the family Hominidae (Great apes), and the only extant species of the genus Homo.

We are not apes. We were created from dirt by God. This 'evolution' is absolute nonsense.
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Postby Aquafireland » Thu Aug 01, 2013 7:48 am

Aldheim wrote:
The theme of us evlolving from apes is just absolutely absurd.


Science disagrees.

Some people believe in science. I believe in God. Unfortunately for you, God has gained the upper hand. We are humans, how can we possibly disagree with our Creator?
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Postby Conscentia » Thu Aug 01, 2013 7:49 am

Aquafireland wrote:
Aldheim wrote:Science disagrees.

Some people believe in science. I believe in God. Unfortunately for you, God has gained the upper hand. We are humans, how can we possibly disagree with our Creator?

1. One does not believe in science. Science is not a belief system - it is a method of obtaining information.
2. Science should be the first thing one turns to. It shouldn't be the second thing in-case religion is insufficient.

You believe in God - who are you to disagree with his creation?

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Postby Avenio » Thu Aug 01, 2013 7:49 am

Aquafireland wrote:Some people believe in science. I believe in God. Unfortunately for you, God has gained the upper hand. We are humans, how can we possibly disagree with our Creator?


The Abrahamic god is certainly not our creator. That would be Jupiter, Greatest and Best.

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Postby Bentrada » Thu Aug 01, 2013 7:49 am

Aquafireland wrote:
Einsiev wrote:There is no such thing as 'Evolution'. God created us all. We never 'evolved' from apes.

The theme of us evlolving from apes is just absolutely absurd. Seriously guys, get real.


We never did evolve from apes, we evolved from "Homo sapiens idaltu"

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Postby Aquafireland » Thu Aug 01, 2013 7:49 am

Conscentia wrote:
Aquafireland wrote:The theme of us evlolving from apes is just absolutely absurd. Seriously guys, get real.

Firstly: Sir, please read: http://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=20&t=254663
Secondly: All humans are apes.
Humans (Homo sapiens) are primates of the family Hominidae (Great apes), and the only extant species of the genus Homo.

Wrong, wrong, wrong. There is no way we could have evolved, due to the fact that God created humans, so how did we change? It says it in most of the religious books that the world has.
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Postby Cameroi » Thu Aug 01, 2013 7:51 am

Aquafireland wrote:
Einsiev wrote:There is no such thing as 'Evolution'. God created us all. We never 'evolved' from apes.

The theme of us evlolving from apes is just absolutely absurd. Seriously guys, get real.

for the hundred and first time, evolution doesn't say jack about us "coming from" apes
it does suggest however that we may have a common ancestor with something like them.
their line and ours both having evolved MANY itterations since then. tens or even hundrends of millions of years worth.
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Postby Aquafireland » Thu Aug 01, 2013 7:51 am

Bentrada wrote:
Aquafireland wrote:The theme of us evlolving from apes is just absolutely absurd. Seriously guys, get real.


We never did evolve from apes, we evolved from "Homo sapiens idaltu"

Yes, there were cavemen who had a slight difference in skull length, teeth alighnment etc. But if you are trying to say that we evolved from animals, you are wrong, my friend.
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Postby Bentrada » Thu Aug 01, 2013 7:52 am

Aquafireland wrote:
Conscentia wrote:Firstly: Sir, please read: http://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=20&t=254663
Secondly: All humans are apes.
Humans (Homo sapiens) are primates of the family Hominidae (Great apes), and the only extant species of the genus Homo.

Wrong, wrong, wrong. There is no way we could have evolved, due to the fact that God created humans, so how did we change? It says it in most of the religious books that the world has.


All those books are flawed.

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Postby Ifreann » Thu Aug 01, 2013 7:52 am

Aquafireland wrote:
Aldheim wrote:
Science disagrees.

Some people believe in science. I believe in God. Unfortunately for you, God has gained the upper hand. We are humans, how can we possibly disagree with our Creator?

A serious position, definitely worth engaging with.
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Postby Bentrada » Thu Aug 01, 2013 7:52 am

Aquafireland wrote:
Bentrada wrote:
We never did evolve from apes, we evolved from "Homo sapiens idaltu"

Yes, there were cavemen who had a slight difference in skull length, teeth alighnment etc. But if you are trying to say that we evolved from animals, you are wrong, my friend.


Humans are animals. Modern humans. Were in the kingdom of Animalia.

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Postby Aquafireland » Thu Aug 01, 2013 7:53 am

Cameroi wrote:
Aquafireland wrote:The theme of us evlolving from apes is just absolutely absurd. Seriously guys, get real.

for the hundred and first time, evolution doesn't say jack about us "coming from" apes
it does suggest however that we may have a common ancestor with something like them.
their line and ours both having evolved MANY itterations since then. tens or even hundrends of millions of years worth.

Every theory even containing an animal is negative. God created Adam and Eve from dirt, and then they brought lots of babies, which then gave birth and so on.
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Postby Aquafireland » Thu Aug 01, 2013 7:54 am

Bentrada wrote:
Aquafireland wrote:Yes, there were cavemen who had a slight difference in skull length, teeth alighnment etc. But if you are trying to say that we evolved from animals, you are wrong, my friend.


Humans are animals. Modern humans. Were in the kingdom of Animalia.

Read my last post.
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Postby Conscentia » Thu Aug 01, 2013 7:56 am

Bentrada wrote:
Aquafireland wrote:The theme of us evlolving from apes is just absolutely absurd. Seriously guys, get real.

We never did evolve from apes, we evolved from "Homo sapiens idaltu"

Homo sapiens idaltu is an extinct subspecies of Homo sapiens that lived almost 160,000 years ago in Pleistocene Africa.

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Constaniana wrote:Of course! How else would my Dragonite have reached its current form?

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Postby Risottia » Thu Aug 01, 2013 7:57 am

Einsiev wrote:There is no such thing as 'Evolution'. God created us all. We never 'evolved' from apes.

Proof?

Aquafireland wrote:Not one bit. God created us, and that's about it.

Proof?

Aquafireland wrote: Unfortunately for you, God has gained the upper hand.

Proof?

Aquafireland wrote: We are humans, how can we possibly disagree with our Creator?

I am human and I would disagree with whatever you would call a Creator, assuming it existed.
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Postby Conscentia » Thu Aug 01, 2013 7:57 am

Aquafireland wrote:
Cameroi wrote:for the hundred and first time, evolution doesn't say jack about us "coming from" apes
it does suggest however that we may have a common ancestor with something like them.
their line and ours both having evolved MANY itterations since then. tens or even hundrends of millions of years worth.

Every theory even containing an animal is negative. God created Adam and Eve from dirt, and then they brought lots of babies, which then gave birth and so on.

This is not true.

Stop with the wilful ignorance.


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Postby Aquafireland » Thu Aug 01, 2013 7:58 am

Conscentia wrote:
Bentrada wrote:We never did evolve from apes, we evolved from "Homo sapiens idaltu"

Homo sapiens idaltu is an extinct subspecies of Homo sapiens that lived almost 160,000 years ago in Pleistocene Africa.

These records are too old to be affirmitive. If you can provide a religious source, it would be a bit more believable.
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