Homosexuality a trend?

[Mavorpen]

Incest is not illegal because they don't think the two parties can consent, it's illegal because it often results in birth defects. It has to do with genetics, and it's really hard to explain. At the simplest, two similar genomes (like those in siblings) are not supposed to combine, or they will cause mutations.

Not really.

Mind you, marriage does not necessitate procreation, and one does not need to be married to have children. You can knock-up your sister and, provided she consents and is of legal age, that would be totally legal.

The truth is there isn't any real legal grounds for prohibiting sibling marriage, other then that people find it icky and no one is really pushing for it.

I mean really, having sex with your sister and getting her pregnant would result in a 2% increase in birth defects IIRC. Unless your family's been doing it for generations, it's not that big of a deal.

[Anachronous Rex]

Incest is not illegal because they don't think the two parties can consent, it's illegal because it often results in birth defects. It has to do with genetics, and it's really hard to explain. At the simplest, two similar genomes (like those in siblings) are not supposed to combine, or they will cause mutations.

And homosexuals have a much, much higher STD transmission rate. Add in that bisexualism is a thing and suddenly you have a problem.

"Homosexuals can use protection"

So can incestuous couples.

Lesbians have a lower STD rate then the general public.

The reason that gay men have higher incidences of STDs is that they're gay men. Strait men would gladly fuck themselves to death too, but strait men can't because women won't.

[Valcouria]

Nonsense...homosexuality IS a trend...just like in the next decade or two, polygamy, incest, zoophilia, and pederasty will all be trends as well, since eventually these deviants will come out of hiding and press their claims to be able to marry. And all of these will be trends as well, since all of a sudden everyone will, for some odd reason, accept them all as normal individuals, when they clearly are not.

Also, regarding consent laws...as most should be aware, laws like that are subject to change...who knows, maybe tomorrow the law of consent will drop to 10 because enough people want it to be there; when everything is subjective, then everything can happen.

[Mavorpen]

Nonsense...homosexuality IS a trend...just like in the next decade or two, polygamy, incest, zoophilia, and pederasty will all be trends as well, since eventually these deviants will come out of hiding and press their claims to be able to marry. And all of these will be trends as well, since all of a sudden everyone will, for some odd reason, accept them all as normal individuals, when they clearly are not.

Also, regarding consent laws...as most should be aware, laws like that are subject to change...who knows, maybe tomorrow the law of consent will drop to 10 because enough people want it to be there; when everything is subjective, then everything can happen.

So what you're saying is, we should ban marriage.

[Riiser-Larsen]

Nonsense...homosexuality IS a trend...just like in the next decade or two, polygamy, incest, zoophilia, and pederasty will all be trends as well, since eventually these deviants will come out of hiding and press their claims to be able to marry. And all of these will be trends as well, since all of a sudden everyone will, for some odd reason, accept them all as normal individuals, when they clearly are not.

Also, regarding consent laws...as most should be aware, laws like that are subject to change...who knows, maybe tomorrow the law of consent will drop to 10 because enough people want it to be there; when everything is subjective, then everything can happen.

Wait, so can you present some arguments for me? I would really like to debate, and just stating your opinions as if they're facts isn't going to do it for me.

[Genivaria]

Nonsense...homosexuality IS a trend...just like in the next decade or two, polygamy, incest, zoophilia, and pederasty will all be trends as well, since eventually these deviants will come out of hiding and press their claims to be able to marry. And all of these will be trends as well, since all of a sudden everyone will, for some odd reason, accept them all as normal individuals, when they clearly are not.

Also, regarding consent laws...as most should be aware, laws like that are subject to change...who knows, maybe tomorrow the law of consent will drop to 10 because enough people want it to be there; when everything is subjective, then everything can happen.

I don't understand how you think that's an actual argument.

[The Scientific States]

Nonsense...homosexuality IS a trend...just like in the next decade or two, polygamy, incest, zoophilia, and pederasty will all be trends as well, since eventually these deviants will come out of hiding and press their claims to be able to marry. And all of these will be trends as well, since all of a sudden everyone will, for some odd reason, accept them all as normal individuals, when they clearly are not.

Also, regarding consent laws...as most should be aware, laws like that are subject to change...who knows, maybe tomorrow the law of consent will drop to 10 because enough people want it to be there; when everything is subjective, then everything can happen.

What you just said is horribly untrue. And unless you can back up those bogus claims, I'm going to have to call absolute bs.

[Valcouria]

Unless it is set in absolutes where it should be (one man and one woman), then that would be the only thing to do to prevent such perversion of the term.

[Mavorpen]

Unless it is set in absolutes where it should be (one man and one woman), then that would be the only thing to do to prevent such perversion of the term.

So we should ban marriage.

[Pandeeria]

Nonsense...homosexuality IS a trend...just like in the next decade or two, polygamy, incest, zoophilia, and pederasty will all be trends as well, since eventually these deviants will come out of hiding and press their claims to be able to marry. And all of these will be trends as well, since all of a sudden everyone will, for some odd reason, accept them all as normal individuals, when they clearly are not.

Also, regarding consent laws...as most should be aware, laws like that are subject to change...who knows, maybe tomorrow the law of consent will drop to 10 because enough people want it to be there; when everything is subjective, then everything can happen.

Saying homosexuality is a trend is like saying being black was a trend in the 60's (yes I know Divar said it).

[The Scientific States]

Unless it is set in absolutes where it should be (one man and one woman), then that would be the only thing to do to prevent such perversion of the term.

Homosexuality isn't a perversion.

[Riiser-Larsen]

Unless it is set in absolutes where it should be (one man and one woman), then that would be the only thing to do to prevent such perversion of the term.

Again, please provide some arguments. You can't state your opinions as if they're facts. It just ticks people off.

[Mavorpen]

Nonsense...homosexuality IS a trend...just like in the next decade or two, polygamy, incest, zoophilia, and pederasty will all be trends as well, since eventually these deviants will come out of hiding and press their claims to be able to marry. And all of these will be trends as well, since all of a sudden everyone will, for some odd reason, accept them all as normal individuals, when they clearly are not.

Also, regarding consent laws...as most should be aware, laws like that are subject to change...who knows, maybe tomorrow the law of consent will drop to 10 because enough people want it to be there; when everything is subjective, then everything can happen.

Saying homosexuality is a trend is like saying being black was a trend in the 60's (yes I know Divar said it).

It most definitely was a trend.

I mean really, you have to admit, the hair was pretty cool.

[Pandeeria]

Unless it is set in absolutes where it should be (one man and one woman), then that would be the only thing to do to prevent such perversion of the term.

An absolute would be marriage for everyone (which would be bad) or ban marriage. Moderates is where it should be, not absolutes/extremes.

[Rawrckia]

Man -> Woman marriage: 2 consenting parties
Man -> Man marriage: 2 consenting parties
Man -> Sister marriage: 2 consenting parties
Man -> Girl marriage (think age 10-12, stable mind, mentally similar to an adult): 2 consenting parties
Man -> Horse marriage: No idea if the horse is consenting. We cannot yet communicate effectively with animals. In the future however this might become realistic.

Why is Man -> Child marriage so "slippery slope" to you? People have willingly married their children to older spouses for ages.

Yes people have married off their children to others. Notice that it is others marrying the children off, not the children finding someone, falling in love, and chosing to marry them.

And should the mentally handicapped not be able to marry at all? Is there a lower limit on IQ for people to marry? Do you need to take some sort of logic test to marry? Adults with lower IQ are mentally children, if not less intelligent than children.

Those that can be verified by a mental health professional to be incapable of giving consent should not be permitted to be married, as they cannot consent to it. It would take a rather severe mental handicap to do this though.

1. Ever read Shakespeare? People married pretty damn young back then. It wasn't uncommon for a twenty-something man to marry a twelve-fourteen year old girl through consent in both parties.
2. This pertains to the tests to give consent. If a 12 year old is deemed mentally able to give consent, what happens.
Should these tests be extended to voting as well? (I'm all for this idea actually)

[Valcouria]

Nonsense...homosexuality IS a trend...just like in the next decade or two, polygamy, incest, zoophilia, and pederasty will all be trends as well, since eventually these deviants will come out of hiding and press their claims to be able to marry. And all of these will be trends as well, since all of a sudden everyone will, for some odd reason, accept them all as normal individuals, when they clearly are not.

Also, regarding consent laws...as most should be aware, laws like that are subject to change...who knows, maybe tomorrow the law of consent will drop to 10 because enough people want it to be there; when everything is subjective, then everything can happen.

Saying homosexuality is a trend is like saying being black was a trend in the 60's (yes I know Divar said it).

Well...everyone was on board with it then...now no one cares, frankly, unless one of them is killed or is convicted of being a killer.

Unless it is set in absolutes where it should be (one man and one woman), then that would be the only thing to do to prevent such perversion of the term.

Homosexuality isn't a perversion.

Explain to me then the purpose of having TWO existent genders, then...if homosexuality were natural, as you claim, then there would only be a single gender.

[Cadaver breadsticks]

1. Ever read Shakespeare? People married pretty damn young back then. It wasn't uncommon for a twenty-something man to marry a twelve-fourteen year old girl through consent in both parties.

How is Shakespearean lore relevant in the 21st century?

[Mavorpen]

1. Ever read Shakespeare? People married pretty damn young back then. It wasn't uncommon for a twenty-something man to marry a twelve-fourteen year old girl through consent in both parties.

Which of course is a lie. It wasn't actual consent.

2. This pertains to the tests to give consent. If a 12 year old is deemed mentally able to give consent, what happens.

There is no such test because 12 year olds cannot consent.

Should these tests be extended to voting as well? (I'm all for this idea actually)

No. Stop asking such stupid fucking questions.

[Rawrckia]

And homosexuals have a much, much higher STD transmission rate. Add in that bisexualism is a thing and suddenly you have a problem.

"Homosexuals can use protection"

So can incestuous couples.

Lesbians have a lower STD rate then the general public.

The reason that gay men have higher incidences of STDs is that they're gay men. Strait men would gladly fuck themselves to death too, but strait men can't because women won't.

Yes, Lesbians have lower rates of STDs.

Allow same-sex marriage only for lesbians then?

[Riiser-Larsen]

Yes people have married off their children to others. Notice that it is others marrying the children off, not the children finding someone, falling in love, and chosing to marry them.

Those that can be verified by a mental health professional to be incapable of giving consent should not be permitted to be married, as they cannot consent to it. It would take a rather severe mental handicap to do this though.

1. Ever read Shakespeare? People married pretty damn young back then. It wasn't uncommon for a twenty-something man to marry a twelve-fourteen year old girl through consent in both parties.
2. This pertains to the tests to give consent. If a 12 year old is deemed mentally able to give consent, what happens.
Should these tests be extended to voting as well? (I'm all for this idea actually)

It's not exactly the best plan to base your arguments solely off of what was believed to be true or proper in the past. In the far past, they would sell their daughters into slavery and stone to death people who violated religious tenants. We don't do that now, because we are a far more enlightened species now.

[The Scientific States]

Saying homosexuality is a trend is like saying being black was a trend in the 60's (yes I know Divar said it).

Well...everyone was on board with it then...now no one cares, frankly, unless one of them is killed or is convicted of being a killer.

Homosexuality isn't a perversion.

Explain to me then the purpose of having TWO existent genders, then...if homosexuality were natural, as you claim, then there would only be a single gender.

Homosexuality is natural. Nobody wakes up and says "I want to be homosexual", its caused all by genetics. It exists in the animal kingdom as well.

[New haven america]

Saying homosexuality is a trend is like saying being black was a trend in the 60's (yes I know Divar said it).

Well...everyone was on board with it then...now no one cares, frankly, unless one of them is killed or is convicted of being a killer.

Homosexuality isn't a perversion.

Explain to me then the purpose of having TWO existent genders, then...if homosexuality were natural, as you claim, then there would only be a single gender.

Every animal on the planet has Homosexual populations, get over it.

[Pandeeria]

Saying homosexuality is a trend is like saying being black was a trend in the 60's (yes I know Divar said it).

Well...everyone was on board with it then...now no one cares, frankly, unless one of them is killed or is convicted of being a killer.

Homosexuality isn't a perversion.

Explain to me then the purpose of having TWO existent genders, then...if homosexuality were natural, as you claim, then there would only be a single gender.

You know what gender is, right? Just because being gay is natural doesn't mean there is only one gender. Are you understanding me?

[Cadaver breadsticks]

Explain to me then the purpose of having TWO existent genders, then...if homosexuality were natural, as you claim, then there would only be a single gender.

fucking hell, this is been refuted infinitely on every thread on homosexuality NSG has had.

read this, then stop with your bullshit http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_an ... l_behavior

[Genivaria]

Unless it is set in absolutes where it should be (one man and one woman), then that would be the only thing to do to prevent such perversion of the term.

How is 'one man and one woman' any less perverted then any other kind of sex?