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Homosexuality A Trend?

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Postby Genivaria » Wed Jul 31, 2013 8:10 pm

Olthar wrote:
Liriena wrote:Polygamy? A lot of homophobic countries are way ahead of you there, but sure? Why not? I'd love to have a romantic and totally egalitarian harem.
Child marriage? A lot of homophobic countries have beaten you to the punch there, but since children can't really consent to any legal contract...no.
Siblings? Sure. Not my cup of tea, but the occasional twincest is not too bad.

A lesbian twincest sandwich with me in the middle would be awesome. :3

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Postby Pandeeria » Wed Jul 31, 2013 8:10 pm

Mavorpen wrote:
Pandeeria wrote:
Children cannot consent. However, if all adult parties consent, then why not?

Don't you just love when their silly slippery slope arguments flop?


It brings me laughter :lol2:

Rawrckia wrote:
Genivaria wrote:Do you understand the concept of consent?
Yes or no.


I do know what consent is.

At almost any age, you can be tried as an adult for serious crimes. Are children really not able to consent?


Children don't know what they're getting into if they married people. they're brains are still developing and probably will make a wrong choice. But I'm pretty sure a kid understands that stealing or killing is breaking the law.
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Postby Threlizdun » Wed Jul 31, 2013 8:10 pm

Rawrckia wrote:The UN's opinion is pretty moot here.
Considering that essentially every nation in the world is a UN member and has agreed to adhere to its rulings when they became members, it really isn't.
They didn't invent or define marriage.
Sure, but marriage has included same-sex marriage for thousands of years now. Either way you have no case.

Do you support marriage between multiple individuals, adults and children, and marriage between brothers and sisters? Because those can all be seen as "legitimate marriage" and have been practiced multiple times at some time or another in history.
We have come to accept that marriage should only be between those capable of giving consent, thus we cannot tolerate child marriages. Marriages between multiple individuals or family members are fine as long as everyone consents.
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Postby The Merchant Republics » Wed Jul 31, 2013 8:10 pm

Mavorpen wrote:
The Merchant Republics wrote:First of all. Don't cut off my statements, especially in ways that make it look as though I was saying something else.

Second of all. Agreed, it is threadjacking. I'm sorry. I just have to be a nag about clarifying things sometimes.

Thank you.

I will say this though: planned economy=/=left wing.


It does according to some metrics however. Specifically the one's that were being referred to, and such was why I felt compelled to clarify how both sides were arguing over something that at it's core is due to using two vastly different models with similar terminology.

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Anyways. Homosexuality = Not a Trend.
Girls kissing each other at parties and pretending to be lesbians to attract male attention = Trend.

The former is perfectly alright, the latter is mildly revolting.
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Postby New haven america » Wed Jul 31, 2013 8:10 pm

Olthar wrote:
Liriena wrote:Polygamy? A lot of homophobic countries are way ahead of you there, but sure? Why not? I'd love to have a romantic and totally egalitarian harem.
Child marriage? A lot of homophobic countries have beaten you to the punch there, but since children can't really consent to any legal contract...no.
Siblings? Sure. Not my cup of tea, but the occasional twincest is not too bad.

A lesbian twincest sandwich with me in the middle would be awesome. :3

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Postby Rawrckia » Wed Jul 31, 2013 8:10 pm

Mavorpen wrote:
Rawrckia wrote:
I do know what consent is.

At almost any age, you can be tried as an adult for serious crimes. Are children really not able to consent?

No, they aren't, just as other species cannot consent.


Wrong quote? Or just poor english. I never mentioned anything about animals, we don't understand their "language" enough to communicate.

But a 10 or 11 year old can communicate perfectly fine.
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Postby Olthar » Wed Jul 31, 2013 8:11 pm

Genivaria wrote:
Olthar wrote:A lesbian twincest sandwich with me in the middle would be awesome. :3

Down girl.
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Olthar wrote:A lesbian twincest sandwich with me in the middle would be awesome. :3

Olthar, clam down. 1 step at a time.

:(
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Postby Genivaria » Wed Jul 31, 2013 8:11 pm

Pandeeria wrote:
Mavorpen wrote:Don't you just love when their silly slippery slope arguments flop?


It brings me laughter :lol2:

I always find the slippery slope to bestiality argument hilarious because it makes me think that Republicans secretly want to have sex with their dogs. :lol:

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Postby Liriena » Wed Jul 31, 2013 8:12 pm

Olthar wrote:
Liriena wrote:Polygamy? A lot of homophobic countries are way ahead of you there, but sure? Why not? I'd love to have a romantic and totally egalitarian harem.
Child marriage? A lot of homophobic countries have beaten you to the punch there, but since children can't really consent to any legal contract...no.
Siblings? Sure. Not my cup of tea, but the occasional twincest is not too bad.

A lesbian twincest sandwich with me in the middle would be awesome. :3

See? Olthar gets it! :3
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Postby Mavorpen » Wed Jul 31, 2013 8:12 pm

The Merchant Republics wrote:It does according to some metrics however. Specifically the one's that were being referred to, and such was why I felt compelled to clarify how both sides were arguing over something that at it's core is due to using two vastly different models with similar terminology.

No, it only applies so if it's used in a manner to promote social or economic equality. Planned economies to promote inequality aren't leftist by any means. But I digress.
The Merchant Republics wrote:Anyways. Homosexuality = Not a Trend.
Girls kissing each other at parties and pretending to be lesbians to attract male attention = Trend.

The former is perfectly alright, the latter is mildly revolting.

Give the latter to Olthar.
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Postby New haven america » Wed Jul 31, 2013 8:12 pm

Rawrckia wrote:
Mavorpen wrote:No, they aren't, just as other species cannot consent.


Wrong quote? Or just poor english. I never mentioned anything about animals, we don't understand their "language" enough to communicate.

But a 10 or 11 year old can communicate perfectly fine.

Humans are animals. :palm:

Quit sucking at your argument and actually say something smart, Please.
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Postby Neutraligon » Wed Jul 31, 2013 8:12 pm

Genivaria wrote:
Pandeeria wrote:
It brings me laughter :lol2:

I always find the slippery slope to bestiality argument hilarious because it makes me think that Republicans secretly want to have sex with their dogs. :lol:


Considering how often some of them apparently think about it...
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Postby Cadaver breadsticks » Wed Jul 31, 2013 8:12 pm

Liriena wrote:
Olthar wrote:A lesbian twincest sandwich with me in the middle would be awesome. :3

See? Olthar gets it! :3

Well, she's always right, apparently, so it's no surprise she does.
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Postby Genivaria » Wed Jul 31, 2013 8:12 pm

New haven america wrote:
Olthar wrote:A lesbian twincest sandwich with me in the middle would be awesome. :3

Olthar, clam down. 1 step at a time.

Hehehe clam.

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Postby Mavorpen » Wed Jul 31, 2013 8:13 pm

Rawrckia wrote:Wrong quote? Or just poor english. I never mentioned anything about animals, we don't understand their "language" enough to communicate.

That isn't the only reason why they cannot consent.
Rawrckia wrote:But a 10 or 11 year old can communicate perfectly fine.

"Communication" isn't consent.
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Postby Threlizdun » Wed Jul 31, 2013 8:13 pm

Olthar wrote:
Genivaria wrote:Down girl.
New haven america wrote:Olthar, clam down. 1 step at a time.

:(
Don't worry Olthar, I'll support you in your quest for the great twincest sandwich as long as you share
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Postby Neutraligon » Wed Jul 31, 2013 8:13 pm

Genivaria wrote:
New haven america wrote:Olthar, clam down. 1 step at a time.

Hehehe clam.


clam chowder...yumm.

Also, can I make it a foursome?
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Postby New haven america » Wed Jul 31, 2013 8:13 pm

Genivaria wrote:
New haven america wrote:Olthar, clam down. 1 step at a time.

Hehehe clam.

FUCKING TYPOS!!! >:(
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Postby Cadaver breadsticks » Wed Jul 31, 2013 8:14 pm

New haven america wrote:
Genivaria wrote:Hehehe clam.

FUCKING TYPOS!!! >:(

that sounds like there'd be an awful amount of chafing.
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Postby Rocopurr » Wed Jul 31, 2013 8:15 pm

Olthar wrote:
Liriena wrote:Polygamy? A lot of homophobic countries are way ahead of you there, but sure? Why not? I'd love to have a romantic and totally egalitarian harem.
Child marriage? A lot of homophobic countries have beaten you to the punch there, but since children can't really consent to any legal contract...no.
Siblings? Sure. Not my cup of tea, but the occasional twincest is not too bad.

A lesbian twincest sandwich with me in the middle would be awesome. :3

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Postby Pandeeria » Wed Jul 31, 2013 8:15 pm

Genivaria wrote:
Pandeeria wrote:
It brings me laughter :lol2:

I always find the slippery slope to bestiality argument hilarious because it makes me think that Republicans secretly want to have sex with their dogs. :lol:


:blink:

It's true!
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Postby Threlizdun » Wed Jul 31, 2013 8:15 pm

Neutraligon wrote:
Genivaria wrote:Hehehe clam.


clam chowder...yumm.

Also, can I make it a foursome?

Get in line. Liriena and I already are waiting.
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Postby Slafstopia » Wed Jul 31, 2013 8:16 pm

The real question we should be discussing is whether the OP means a trend as in a data trend plotted against time, or a hip, jive, edgy trend. And whether he means cases of out-of-the-closet homosexuality, or just general homosexuality.
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Postby Gideus » Wed Jul 31, 2013 8:17 pm

Nope. That's like saying being Jewish is a trend.

For fuck's sake, it's not like we're trying to convert people (Jews). Gay/lesbian/transgender/any other identification people aren't either. It's that simple.

They're not Mormons. They don't go door to door asking if you've heard the word of Liberace.

EDIT: The only trend would be a trend of acceptance; hopefully one that never goes away.
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Postby Rocopurr » Wed Jul 31, 2013 8:17 pm

Slafstopia wrote:The real question we should be discussing is whether the OP means a trend as in a data trend plotted against time, or a hip, jive, edgy trend. And whether he means cases of out-of-the-closet homosexuality, or just general homosexuality.

I vote for hip and edgy, and it sounded like he meant homosexuality in general to me.
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