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Postby New Laikland » Wed Jul 31, 2013 7:42 pm

Mavorpen wrote:
New Laikland wrote: left-wing describes an outlook or specific position that accepts or supports social equality, often in opposition to social hierarchy and social inequality.[

The amount of contradictions on wiki are too damn high

The fuck does this have to do with the topic?

Because Nazi is short for National Socialist and Socialism is a left wing ideology.

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Postby The Parkus Empire » Wed Jul 31, 2013 7:42 pm

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The Parkus Empire wrote:That's not even your generation, it's mine. Nobody who grew up with 90's cartoons looks at Tom and Jerry as a 90's thing.

90's

Pinky and the Brain
Animaniacs
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Cowboy Bebop http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dWk-VpK4hJo

Fuck. Those are actual 90's cartoons. All damn good too. Don't lump Tom and Jerry in there. Watching Cartoon Network reruns does not make you a connoisseur of the 90's.

I declare Tom and Jerry a 90's cartoon because it was played a lot during that time period. LET IT BE KNOWN.

No. Mambo Number 5 was played a lot during that time period
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Postby Vazdania » Wed Jul 31, 2013 7:42 pm

Thafoo wrote:I'm only a gay because it's radical and fresh, as the jive young call it.

:lol2:
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Postby Sommorragh » Wed Jul 31, 2013 7:42 pm

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Which is totally NOT what the Nazis had in mind, not even in a "Germans-only" society.

What did the Nazis have in mind, since you knew Hitler personally as a friend and all.


From a social standpoint, National Socialism is very right wing. From an economic stand point, it's very left-wing. So, you can argue either way.

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Postby Olthar » Wed Jul 31, 2013 7:42 pm

Vazdania wrote:
The Parkus Empire wrote:That's not even your generation, it's mine. Nobody who grew up with 90's cartoons looks at Tom and Jerry as a 90's thing.

90's

Pinky and the Brain
Animaniacs
Freakazoid
Gargoyles
X-Men http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8PrvRnjJ0HY
Batman http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A71i0a5x-qA
The Tick
Earthworm Jim
Tiny Toons
Moo Mesa http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G_zbeX6yoRI
Aeon Flux http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7UQyPXbjL-A
Cowboy Bebop http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dWk-VpK4hJo

Fuck. Those are actual 90's cartoons. All damn good too. Don't lump Tom and Jerry in there. Watching Cartoon Network reruns does not make you a connoisseur of the 90's.

I declare Tom and Jerry a 90's cartoon because it was played a lot during that time period. LET IT BE KNOWN.

And Powerpuff Girls is a 40's cartoon because it now plays on Boomerang. *nods*
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Postby Neutraligon » Wed Jul 31, 2013 7:42 pm

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Neutraligon wrote:The shaming has been there for years, for far longer than there have been pride parades. Pride parades came around as a result of people saying, you know what, there is no reason to feel shame, there is no reason to hide what we are. All you folks out there, I a gay and not afraid to admit it. That is why pride parades exist, because for a very long time, people were forced to feel shame for being what they were.

Just join the KKK, they have pride parades pretty often.


Then why feel shame for it? If you think you're that way, then why do you let other people control your mindset?


Because for centuries very large segments of the population have been putting us down, have been beating, raping, and murdering us, have been telling us we are hated by god. Because when you hear something repeated often enough, you believe it, especially if you hear it from the time you are a child and there is no other narrative.
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Postby Vazdania » Wed Jul 31, 2013 7:43 pm

The Parkus Empire wrote:
Vazdania wrote:I declare Tom and Jerry a 90's cartoon because it was played a lot during that time period. LET IT BE KNOWN.

No. Mambo Number 5 was played a lot during that time period

Mambo Number 5 is now assimilated into the 90's.
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Postby Pandeeria » Wed Jul 31, 2013 7:43 pm

New Laikland wrote:
Pandeeria wrote:
fas·cism
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An authoritarian and nationalistic right-wing system of government and social organization.
(in general use) Extreme right-wing, authoritarian, or intolerant views or practice.

left-wing describes an outlook or specific position that accepts or supports social equality, often in opposition to social hierarchy and social inequality.[

The amount of contradictions on wiki are too damn high


If they aren't right winged then why:

Why did the Nazi's persecute gays? What about the support of gun ownership? About a very tough stance on drugs?
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Postby Mavorpen » Wed Jul 31, 2013 7:43 pm

New Laikland wrote:
Mavorpen wrote:The fuck does this have to do with the topic?

Because Nazi is short for National Socialist and Socialism is a left wing ideology.

So you're threadjacking?
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Postby New haven america » Wed Jul 31, 2013 7:43 pm

Thafoo wrote:I'm only a gay because it's radical and fresh, as the jive young call it.

Legit.
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Postby Threlizdun » Wed Jul 31, 2013 7:43 pm

New Laikland wrote:
Baltenstein wrote:
Which is totally NOT what the Nazis had in mind, not even in a "Germans-only" society.

What did the Nazis have in mind, since you knew Hitler personally as a friend and all.

Racial supremacy, ultranationalism, totalitarianism, personality cults, crushing the power of the working, and genocide. That would not be social equality.
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Postby The Parkus Empire » Wed Jul 31, 2013 7:44 pm

Vazdania wrote:
The Parkus Empire wrote:No. Mambo Number 5 was played a lot during that time period

Mambo Number 5 is now assimilated into the 90's.

It was always a part of the 90's, genius
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Postby Cadaver breadsticks » Wed Jul 31, 2013 7:44 pm

Olthar wrote:
Vazdania wrote:I declare Tom and Jerry a 90's cartoon because it was played a lot during that time period. LET IT BE KNOWN.

And Powerpuff Girls is a 40's cartoon because it now plays on Boomerang. *nods*

PPG hasn't aired on boomerang where i live for at least 3 years now ;_;
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Postby New Laikland » Wed Jul 31, 2013 7:44 pm

Threlizdun wrote:Pride parade exists to show people that we are not ashamed of the fact that we have a different gender/sexuality from the norm. It has nothing to do with superiority, and everything to do with fighting the shame people have heaped on us due to our sexuality/gender

Pride parades raise awareness of the existence of the LGBTQI community and how populous they are, thus intensifying the understanding that we cannot hesitate on the fight for equality.

These are about histories of oppression and the desire for equality, not the strengthening of an already powerful group.

I'm sorry

No, they would be a radical right-wing ideology.

Why do they feel the need to wave it about, then? Why are you trying to heap shame onto us now?

They don't need to raise awareness, they need to disappear so people can be gay without needing to feel special.

At the moment, I'd say we're the most oppressed group in the world.

Why be sorry? Fascism is one of the few systems that work.

Not at all.

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Postby Sommorragh » Wed Jul 31, 2013 7:45 pm

Threlizdun wrote:
New Laikland wrote:What did the Nazis have in mind, since you knew Hitler personally as a friend and all.

Racial supremacy, ultranationalism, crushing the power of the working, and genocide. That would not be social equality.


Nationalizing industry would be leftist, however.

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Postby Olthar » Wed Jul 31, 2013 7:45 pm

Cadaver breadsticks wrote:
Olthar wrote:And Powerpuff Girls is a 40's cartoon because it now plays on Boomerang. *nods*

PPG hasn't aired on boomerang where i live for at least 3 years now ;_;

Wait...So Powerpuff Girls was put on Boomerang and then taken off? Goddamn. Now I feel even older! D:
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Postby Threlizdun » Wed Jul 31, 2013 7:45 pm

New Laikland wrote:
Mavorpen wrote:The fuck does this have to do with the topic?

Because Nazi is short for National Socialist and Socialism is a left wing ideology.
Not even remotely
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Postby The Parkus Empire » Wed Jul 31, 2013 7:46 pm

Threlizdun wrote:
New Laikland wrote:Because Nazi is short for National Socialist and Socialism is a left wing ideology.
Not even remotely

But bad and leftist are synonymous, so this is logically sound
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Postby New haven america » Wed Jul 31, 2013 7:46 pm

Olthar wrote:
Cadaver breadsticks wrote:PPG hasn't aired on boomerang where i live for at least 3 years now ;_;

Wait...So Powerpuff Girls was put on Boomerang and then taken off? Goddamn. Now I feel even older! D:

Old people. >_>
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Postby The Merchant Republics » Wed Jul 31, 2013 7:47 pm

Pandeeria wrote:
New Laikland wrote:Nah, Fascists and Nazis are on the left side, common misconception.


fas·cism
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An authoritarian and nationalistic right-wing system of government and social organization.
(in general use) Extreme right-wing, authoritarian, or intolerant views or practice.

It's on the right.


Actually that's a bit of a misconception on both parts.

It depends on the metric you are using.

The traditional left-right scale is Progressive/Revolutionary - Conservative/Reactionary

However more modern and more comprehensive left-right models tend to do away with Revolutionary/Reactionary (rightly since they are relics of the 19th century of monarchs versus republicans) with a solely economic right-left metric that compares "planned/state economy <-> free market/individualist economy).

Fascists are indeed far-right in the sense of reactionary/conservative, but are actually on the left when positioned on the newer metrics.

The Fascists for themselves tended to regard themselves as "Third Way Parties" advocating a departure from left and right politics to embrace their own brand of economic corporatism.

Edit: I should say of course, that ultimately.

No one wants to touch nazism, so of course no matter which side of the debate you're on you will naturally want to distance yourself from association with such a revolting ideology. There is an easy way to accomplish this, one must simply admit that it really belongs to neither camp. It was indeed a product of left-wing economics and right-wing nationalism/jingoism.

Essentially the worst of both worlds.

But I threadjack.

Homosexuality is not truly a trend, although certainly anyone can see there are certainly a rising amount of people who for all intents and purposes have latched onto the growing acceptance of homosexuality and used it as license to engage in purposefully edgy behaviour, particularly as I said before the case of party-lesbianism.
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Postby Mavorpen » Wed Jul 31, 2013 7:47 pm

Sommorragh wrote:
Threlizdun wrote:Racial supremacy, ultranationalism, crushing the power of the working, and genocide. That would not be social equality.


Nationalizing industry would be leftist, however.

No.

Stop fucking threadjacking.
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Postby New Laikland » Wed Jul 31, 2013 7:47 pm

Threlizdun wrote:Racial supremacy, ultranationalism, totalitarianism, personality cults, crushing the power of the working, and genocide. That would not be social equality.

Wanting to strengthen our own race doesn't equal thinking we're better than anyone. Totalitarianism removes the broken system of democracy which slows progress. Meh. They didn't crush the power of the working class, they set it so their nation can make progress. They didn't attempt genocide of an entire group of people, they attempted to remove the "weaker" parts of German society. There's really no evidence to back up claims that the Third Reich wanted to exterminate anyone from the planet.

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Postby Vazdania » Wed Jul 31, 2013 7:47 pm

Olthar wrote:
Cadaver breadsticks wrote:PPG hasn't aired on boomerang where i live for at least 3 years now ;_;

Wait...So Powerpuff Girls was put on Boomerang and then taken off? Goddamn. Now I feel even older! D:

Pokemon was on Boomerang......Yea that told me "You're an old fart"
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Postby Pandeeria » Wed Jul 31, 2013 7:48 pm

Sommorragh wrote:
Threlizdun wrote:Racial supremacy, ultranationalism, crushing the power of the working, and genocide. That would not be social equality.


Nationalizing industry would be leftist, however.


Nazism developed from the influences of pan-Germanism, the far-right Völkisch German nationalist movement and the anti-communist Freikorps paramilitary culture which fought against the communists in post-World War I Germany.

Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazism

What is so hard to accept that Nazism is right winged?
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Postby The Parkus Empire » Wed Jul 31, 2013 7:48 pm

New haven america wrote:
Olthar wrote:Wait...So Powerpuff Girls was put on Boomerang and then taken off? Goddamn. Now I feel even older! D:

Old people. >_>

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