Homosexuality a trend?

[Yumyumsuppertime]

You just said things like "A 10 year old should be allowed to get married if they want", which makes no sense as they aren't mentally developed. You also barely gave any proof that they can, and the proof you gave was just idiotic at best.
You also got mad that I asked you to say something intelligent for you're arguments, that hasn't happened yet.
Anything else?

You seem to be misreading my posts.

A 10 year old that is emotionally and mentally mature to a certain standard, should be able to make their own decisions.

And I am not mad, I'm just frustrated that no one is actually arguing, just throwing shit at a wall I built. It's not going to fall down because you have not posted anything intelligent yet and still don't have an argument that my posts are blatantly wrong or otherwise unintelligent

Because there is no such thing as a ten year old emotionally and mentally mature enough to give informed consent. Such a thing does not exist, despite the arguments of NAMBLA and other pedophiles.

[Mavorpen]

Yes, I replied to an anecdote with an anecdote, to show that my argument was as good as yours. However, my point regarding brain development is scientifically sound, and was the salient point of my post.

And if you want to lobby to raise the age of consent to 25 or so, feel free.

My anecdote wasn't meant to prove that all middle schoolers are mature. It was to prove that yes, some children can indeed make decisions for themselves in a mature fashion, and they shouldn't be restricted by blanket laws.

And it didn't accomplish that at all. Anecdotes aren't a substitute for credible evidence. Get over it and give us some.

[The Black Forrest]

You just said things like "A 10 year old should be allowed to get married if they want", which makes no sense as they aren't mentally developed. You also barely gave any proof that they can, and the proof you gave was just idiotic at best.
You also got mad that I asked you to say something intelligent for you're arguments, that hasn't happened yet.
Anything else?

You seem to be misreading my posts.

A 10 year old that is emotionally and mentally mature to a certain standard, should be able to make their own decisions.

And I am not mad, I'm just frustrated that no one is actually arguing, just throwing shit at a wall I built. It's not going to fall down because you have not posted anything intelligent yet and still don't have an argument that my posts are blatantly wrong or otherwise unintelligent

Ok. You found 10 years who had maturity.

I can show you 10 year olds who didn't.

[Wazkyraque]

Nope. Also I strongly suggest using sources that don't consist a of a forum topic about teachers talking about students saying something that might imply that that they think that being gay makes you popular (Most personal experiences, including my own, would suggest otherwise) and a youtube video.

Here are trends:
- Hairstyles
- Certain types of body art and piercings
- Certain types of clothing and outfits
- Certain types of music

Though effeminate and "metrosexual" clothing may be a trend. Homosexuality itself is not. Homosexuality is a result of independent interactions between chemicals. A trend is a result of interactions between large groups, sub-cultures or even entire cultures of people.

And I may note that more adolescents are exploring their sexuality and going through "phases" more often because society has become less restrictive about sexuality (I would argue that it's still very strict) than it was twenty years ago, not necessarily because they are encouraged to by their peers and social groups. If anything, I think this is a good thing regardless of whether or not it's a fad, all people should be encouraged to explore and be comfortable with their sexuality because ignoring your sexuality can lead to emotional instability and an unsound mind.

But then again, I'm no psychologist, sociologist, or sexologist *shrug*

[Agymnum]

Ok. You found 10 years who had maturity.

I can show you 10 year olds who didn't.

I believe his argument is that you should judge a child's/teen's ability to consent on an individual basis.

To which I would ask, how fucking practical is that?

[New haven america]

You seem to be misreading my posts.

A 10 year old that is emotionally and mentally mature to a certain standard, should be able to make their own decisions.

And I am not mad, I'm just frustrated that no one is actually arguing, just throwing shit at a wall I built. It's not going to fall down because you have not posted anything intelligent yet and still don't have an argument that my posts are blatantly wrong or otherwise unintelligent

Because there is no such thing as a ten year old emotionally and mentally mature enough to give informed consent. Such a thing does not exist, despite the arguments of NAMBLA and other pedophiles.

I was just about to say that.

[Yumyumsuppertime]

Yes, I replied to an anecdote with an anecdote, to show that my argument was as good as yours. However, my point regarding brain development is scientifically sound, and was the salient point of my post.

And if you want to lobby to raise the age of consent to 25 or so, feel free.

My anecdote wasn't meant to prove that all middle schoolers are mature. It was to prove that yes, some children can indeed make decisions for themselves in a mature fashion, and they shouldn't be restricted by blanket laws.

Able to make informed decisions regarding sexuality? You seriously think that someone who hasn't even been through puberty is in a position to do that?

[New haven america]

My anecdote wasn't meant to prove that all middle schoolers are mature. It was to prove that yes, some children can indeed make decisions for themselves in a mature fashion, and they shouldn't be restricted by blanket laws.

Able to make informed decisions regarding sexuality? You seriously think that someone who hasn't even been through puberty is in a position to do that?

Apperantly if they're "Mature enough" sure.

[Rawrckia]

You seem to be misreading my posts.

A 10 year old that is emotionally and mentally mature to a certain standard, should be able to make their own decisions.

And I am not mad, I'm just frustrated that no one is actually arguing, just throwing shit at a wall I built. It's not going to fall down because you have not posted anything intelligent yet and still don't have an argument that my posts are blatantly wrong or otherwise unintelligent

Ok. You found 10 years who had maturity.

I can show you 10 year olds who didn't.

Yes, I can as well. Many 10 year olds are not mature. Many 20 year olds are not mature.

And this is the point I'm trying to get across: In such matters as emotional development, every case needs to be looked through seperately. If this 13 year old is deemed fit to make their own decisions, and this 20 year old is not, is this truly a problem?

[The Black Forrest]

Ok. You found 10 years who had maturity.

I can show you 10 year olds who didn't.

I believe his argument is that you should judge a child's/teen's ability to consent on an individual basis.

To which I would ask, how fucking practical is that?

Let's see who many children there are? *adjusts abacus*
Obviously one review is not enough *adjusts abacus, adjusts abacus, adjusts abacus, adjusts abacus, adjusts abacus, adjusts abacus,a djusts abacus, adjusts abacus, adjusts abacus, adjusts abacus*

You are overlooking what he suggests. Job creation! Think of all the jobs needed to evaluate children, accumulate the data, and turn it into information!

[Agymnum]

Ok. You found 10 years who had maturity.

I can show you 10 year olds who didn't.

Yes, I can as well. Many 10 year olds are not mature. Many 20 year olds are not mature.

And this is the point I'm trying to get across: In such matters as emotional development, every case needs to be looked through seperately. If this 13 year old is deemed fit to make their own decisions, and this 20 year old is not, is this truly a problem?

You haven't addressed my main issue with your whole case-by-case argument:

How would you practically enforce this. Tell us?

Would you like us to psychologically evaluate every ten-year-old and place them in categories? What if their maturity changed next year - would we have reevaluations?

How would you determine maturity? Does liking something edgy or being rebellious automatically disqualify you from being mature? What if you're mature and simply aren't someone who enjoys following the mainstream?

More importantly, who's paying for all these evaluations? Would the child's parents do it? Would the state?

[Anachronous Rex]

How can something that evolution produced not be natural?

Evolution produced two opposite sexes for the purpose of procreation, and to ensure the surival of a species. Anything else is an ufortunate complication standing in the way of evolutions plan.

That's funny. You think evolution has a plan.

[Agymnum]

Evolution produced two opposite sexes for the purpose of procreation, and to ensure the surival of a species. Anything else is an ufortunate complication standing in the way of evolutions plan.

That's funny. You think evolution has a plan.

It's almost like he's confusing evolution with some sort of deity...

[Yumyumsuppertime]

That's funny. You think evolution has a plan.

It's almost like he's confusing evolution with some sort of deity...

Yeah, "Male and female created he them" isn't to be found anywhere in Darwin.

[Reploid Productions]

*looks at thread topic*

*looks at most recent several posts*

This is the thread for whether or not homosexuality is a trend. It's not about whether pedophilia is a trend or about 10 year olds giving consent. Kindly steer back on target please.


~Evil Forum Empress Rep Prod the Ninja Mod
~She who wields the Banhammer; master of the mighty moderation no-dachi Kiritateru Teikoku

[Regnum Dominae]

It's almost like he's confusing evolution with some sort of deity...

Yeah, "Male and female created he them" isn't to be found anywhere in Darwin.

I love how cdesign proponentsists accuse us of worshiping Darwin as a deity while conveniently ignoring the fact that much of Darwin's original theory is considered obsolete and wrong in modern evolutionary biology.

Anyway back on topic: homosexuality is no more of a trend than being black was in the 1960s.

[Forster Keys]

Hey NSG! After doing to some observation I have come to the conclusion that homosexuality is somewhat of a trend. Now before you start calling me all types of assholes,please,here me out on this!

It's fair to say that in the "olden" days,homosexuality was well,not acceptable among family. It's also fair to say that since the beginning of the new millennium that homosexuality has somewhat skyrocketed among teens. Now let's all admit that at one point in time we all went through a phase of some sort. Weather it be, being goth or something of that nature, then we sort of grew out of it.

Nowadays kids think that homosexuality is...cool! Let's look at one video:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lJGuMEZhxgY. Since when did homothug among children become...cool?

http://www.collegenet.com/elect/app/app?service=external/Forum&sp=35110

Even teachers are against it.

But I know many of us have different opinions so please:
No trolling
Flaming
Slurs against gays

Ever heard of ancient Greece?

[Forster Keys]

No.
It's simply that people can be gay without being either six feet under or six feet into the closet nowadays.

Pretty much this.

[The Black Forrest]

Hey NSG! After doing to some observation I have come to the conclusion that homosexuality is somewhat of a trend. Now before you start calling me all types of assholes,please,here me out on this!

It's fair to say that in the "olden" days,homosexuality was well,not acceptable among family. It's also fair to say that since the beginning of the new millennium that homosexuality has somewhat skyrocketed among teens. Now let's all admit that at one point in time we all went through a phase of some sort. Weather it be, being goth or something of that nature, then we sort of grew out of it.

Nowadays kids think that homosexuality is...cool! Let's look at one video:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lJGuMEZhxgY. Since when did homothug among children become...cool?

http://www.collegenet.com/elect/app/app?service=external/Forum&sp=35110

Even teachers are against it.

But I know many of us have different opinions so please:
No trolling
Flaming
Slurs against gays

Ever heard of ancient Greece?

You mean predecessor of Greece 2?

[Forster Keys]

Ever heard of ancient Greece?

You mean predecessor of Greece 2?

Yeah. Greece 1. Eclipsed by the R0man OS.

[Creativalsia]

I would say yes and no. I think most people are homosexuals because that is truly what they identify as, but there are a few who choose to identify that way because they like the lgbtq culture. Also, more people are coming out of the closet because society has become more accepting of lgbtq. But there is still a lot of hate speech and crimes against lgbtq people. Finally, because society has become more (but not totally!) accepting of lgbtq, some people more comfortable to question their gender/sexuality. I think many people start questioning and coming out at a younger age then they did in the past. I think it would be great if people were never judged by their sexual orientation or gender identity. Even though things have gotten better, there still needs to be improvement, so no one has to be afraid of questioning or coming out.

[German-Spanish Empire]

*looks at thread topic*

*looks at most recent several posts*

This is the thread for whether or not homosexuality is a trend. It's not about whether pedophilia is a trend or about 10 year olds giving consent. Kindly steer back on target please.

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~Evil Forum Empress Rep Prod the Ninja Mod
~She who wields the Banhammer; master of the mighty moderation no-dachi Kiritateru Teikoku

Thanks.

[Aquafireland]

Why not?

Would you say being black became a trend in the 60's? No? There we go.

Nuff said.

[Cadaver breadsticks]

Would you say being black became a trend in the 60's? No? There we go.

I agree. Homosexuality is a choice.

How did you get that from Divair's post?

[Aquafireland]

You cannot become gay by just following someone else without enjoying it. You might have to be born with it.