Homosexuality a trend?

[Hetalian Indie Rio de Janeiro]

Homosexuality is a trend in the same way heterosexuality is a trend, asexuality is a trend, pansexuality is a trend, bisexuality is a trend, etc.

Put simply, it isn't.

Pansexuality and the polysexualities are just different kinds of bisexuality for the sexual orientation spectrum purpose.

Taking the gender identity spectrum instead of the biological sexes makes things hell complex.

[Rawrckia]

And, no, 10 year old children cannot give informed consent. Are you fucking kidding me? Read up on brain function, child development, child psychology...hell, just SPEND SOME TIME AROUND CHILDREN, and you'll see that.

As a teen, I volunteered to work with the "talented and gifted" group of elementary and middle schoolers. There are some very mature and intelligent minds (more developed than some of the teachers at the school I'd add, some of them were a pain in the ass to volunteers).

I volunteered to work at a kind of "hands-on" science museum, to show young children how electricity works, how magnetism works, how vacuum pumps work, how motors work. And many of them understood it, despite me having to kneel down to engage them face to face.

And children can not be mature at all, until they hit 18? And adults with a sub-50 IQ or no sense of right or wrong can get married and have sexual relations when they clearly cannot behave responsibly?

Really? I mean if we're going to set the standard to allow the mentally disabled to remain married and have a position as adults, there are THOUSANDS of children who more than qualify. They can act responsibly. They have ethics.

And I've talked with them, I've worked with them, I've watched them grow. Just because someone's 10 doesn't mean they're immediately an idiot.

[Mavorpen]

As a teen, I volunteered to work with the "talented and gifted" group of elementary and middle schoolers. There are some very mature and intelligent minds (more developed than some of the teachers at the school I'd add, some of them were a pain in the ass to volunteers).

I volunteered to work at a kind of "hands-on" science museum, to show young children

And children can not be mature at all, until they hit 18? And adults with a sub-50 IQ or no sense of right or wrong can get married and have sexual relations when they clearly cannot behave responsibly?

Really? I mean if we're going to set the standard to allow the mentally disabled to remain married and have a position as adults, there are THOUSANDS of children who more than qualify. They can act responsibly. They have ethics.

And I've talked with them, I've worked with them, I've watched them grow. Just because someone's 10 doesn't mean they're immediately an idiot.

So let me get this straight. You not only STILL refuse to give ANY credible evidence that 10 year olds can consent, but now you pretend that ANECDOTES are a substitute for them?

Holy fucking shit.

[Agymnum]

As a teen, I volunteered to work with the "talented and gifted" group of elementary and middle schoolers. There are some very mature and intelligent minds (more developed than some of the teachers at the school I'd add, some of them were a pain in the ass to volunteers).

I volunteered to work at a kind of "hands-on" science museum, to show young children

And children can not be mature at all, until they hit 18? And adults with a sub-50 IQ or no sense of right or wrong can get married and have sexual relations when they clearly cannot behave responsibly?

Really? I mean if we're going to set the standard to allow the mentally disabled to remain married and have a position as adults, there are THOUSANDS of children who more than qualify. They can act responsibly. They have ethics.

And I've talked with them, I've worked with them, I've watched them grow. Just because someone's 10 doesn't mean they're immediately an idiot.

But we cannot immediately assume that all children are capable of consent, and due to the fact that many children can be manipulated by adults due to the power authority tends to hold over people, we need to set a legal precedent for acceptable relationships. Having an age precedent for relationships is a practical solution where having every child who wants to get into a relationship with an adult psychologically evaluated is not.

[Norstal]

As a teen, I volunteered to work with the "talented and gifted" group of elementary and middle schoolers. There are some very mature and intelligent minds (more developed than some of the teachers at the school I'd add, some of them were a pain in the ass to volunteers).

I volunteered to work at a kind of "hands-on" science museum, to show young children

And children can not be mature at all, until they hit 18? And adults with a sub-50 IQ or no sense of right or wrong can get married and have sexual relations when they clearly cannot behave responsibly?

Really? I mean if we're going to set the standard to allow the mentally disabled to remain married and have a position as adults, there are THOUSANDS of children who more than qualify. They can act responsibly. They have ethics.

And I've talked with them, I've worked with them, I've watched them grow. Just because someone's 10 doesn't mean they're immediately an idiot.

So let me get this straight. You not only STILL refuse to give ANY credible evidence that 10 year olds can consent, but now you pretend that ANECDOTES are a substitute for them?

Holy fucking shit.

He's credible. I mean, he's a teen and so he knows how teen brains work.

What more example do you want? Take a look at how popular Justin Bieber is among teens. That's the epitome of maturity.

[Rawrckia]

As a teen, I volunteered to work with the "talented and gifted" group of elementary and middle schoolers. There are some very mature and intelligent minds (more developed than some of the teachers at the school I'd add, some of them were a pain in the ass to volunteers).

I volunteered to work at a kind of "hands-on" science museum, to show young children

And children can not be mature at all, until they hit 18? And adults with a sub-50 IQ or no sense of right or wrong can get married and have sexual relations when they clearly cannot behave responsibly?

Really? I mean if we're going to set the standard to allow the mentally disabled to remain married and have a position as adults, there are THOUSANDS of children who more than qualify. They can act responsibly. They have ethics.

And I've talked with them, I've worked with them, I've watched them grow. Just because someone's 10 doesn't mean they're immediately an idiot.

So let me get this straight. You not only STILL refuse to give ANY credible evidence that 10 year olds can consent, but now you pretend that ANECDOTES are a substitute for them?

Holy fucking shit.

You're trying to prove that life doesn't exist anywhere else in the universe again aren't you?

[New haven america]

As a teen, I volunteered to work with the "talented and gifted" group of elementary and middle schoolers. There are some very mature and intelligent minds (more developed than some of the teachers at the school I'd add, some of them were a pain in the ass to volunteers).

I volunteered to work at a kind of "hands-on" science museum, to show young children

And children can not be mature at all, until they hit 18? And adults with a sub-50 IQ or no sense of right or wrong can get married and have sexual relations when they clearly cannot behave responsibly?

Really? I mean if we're going to set the standard to allow the mentally disabled to remain married and have a position as adults, there are THOUSANDS of children who more than qualify. They can act responsibly. They have ethics.

And I've talked with them, I've worked with them, I've watched them grow. Just because someone's 10 doesn't mean they're immediately an idiot.

So let me get this straight. You not only STILL refuse to give ANY credible evidence that 10 year olds can consent, but now you pretend that ANECDOTES are a substitute for them?

Holy fucking shit.

This, again^

[Agymnum]

You're trying to prove that life doesn't exist anywhere else in the universe again aren't you?

He's pointing out that anecdotal evidence offers nothing to the discussion. Come back with statistics that we can properly debate.

[Mavorpen]

So let me get this straight. You not only STILL refuse to give ANY credible evidence that 10 year olds can consent, but now you pretend that ANECDOTES are a substitute for them?

Holy fucking shit.

You're trying to prove that life doesn't exist anywhere else in the universe again aren't you?

So you don't have evidence that 10 year olds can consent. Got it.

[New haven america]

So let me get this straight. You not only STILL refuse to give ANY credible evidence that 10 year olds can consent, but now you pretend that ANECDOTES are a substitute for them?

Holy fucking shit.

He's credible. I mean, he's a teen and so he knows how teen brains work.

What more example do you want? Take a look at how popular Justin Bieber is among teens. That's the epitome of maturity.

Justin Beiber and 1D are a fuck up of biology.

[Norstal]

You're trying to prove that life doesn't exist anywhere else in the universe again aren't you?

What the fuck.

[Agymnum]

He's credible. I mean, he's a teen and so he knows how teen brains work.

What more example do you want? Take a look at how popular Justin Bieber is among teens. That's the epitome of maturity.

Justin Beiber and 1D are a fuck up of biology.

Technically, a fuck-up of anthropology, but I agree.

[Rawrckia]

So let me get this straight. You not only STILL refuse to give ANY credible evidence that 10 year olds can consent, but now you pretend that ANECDOTES are a substitute for them?

Holy fucking shit.

He's credible. I mean, he's a teen and so he knows how teen brains work.

What more example do you want? Take a look at how popular Justin Bieber is among teens. That's the epitome of maturity.

Wow, so I'm a teen now?

I guess the last 5 years of my life since the school volunteer program have been fake! And you must really be NSA'ing it up, how else would you have found my birth certificate?

"Justin Bieber is popular among teens"

The Twilight books are popular among women in their twenties, as is Fifty Shades of Grey.

And we all know how intelligently written and morally fine those are, right?

[New haven america]

So let me get this straight. You not only STILL refuse to give ANY credible evidence that 10 year olds can consent, but now you pretend that ANECDOTES are a substitute for them?

Holy fucking shit.

You're trying to prove that life doesn't exist anywhere else in the universe again aren't you?

When did that happen?

[Hetalian Indie Rio de Janeiro]

And adults with a sub-50 IQ or no sense of right or wrong can get married and have sexual relations when they clearly cannot behave responsibly?

This reasoning is why I support a relative social tolerance of interspecies sexual relationships (even if, despite having some zoophilic feelings - significant sexual attraction in the context of some emotional bonds, very little interest when not the case -, I would rather not practice for individual moral reasons), at least while we see meat-eating as perfectly acceptable in our society in spite of the generally damaging side consequences (I expect to become a vegan until January 2023), and the recognition of zoosexuality as something sexual orientation-like, but even this is a very very very very very minority view and some (especially non-Brazilians) get very shocked when I tell them about this.

[Vazdania]

If I chose to live that way, no. I wouldn't. However, I choose to live as nature intended, with my attraction to the opposite sex.

God, I hate extremists.

Well I'm offended....

[Norstal]

Wow, so I'm a teen now?

As a teen,

I know you're trying to confuse us to oblivion, but this isn't working.

[Mavorpen]

You're trying to prove that life doesn't exist anywhere else in the universe again aren't you?

When did that happen?

In FantasyLand.

[Agymnum]

Wow, so I'm a teen now?

I guess the last 5 years of my life since the school volunteer program have been fake! And you must really be NSA'ing it up, how else would you have found my birth certificate?

The last five years are anecdotal and not empirical evidence. Try again.

[German-Spanish Empire]

You're trying to prove that life doesn't exist anywhere else in the universe again aren't you?

What the fuck.

"What the fuck" quote of the year

[New haven america]

God, I hate extremists.

Well I'm offended....

*Shrugs*

[Yumyumsuppertime]

And, no, 10 year old children cannot give informed consent. Are you fucking kidding me? Read up on brain function, child development, child psychology...hell, just SPEND SOME TIME AROUND CHILDREN, and you'll see that.

As a teen, I volunteered to work with the "talented and gifted" group of elementary and middle schoolers. There are some very mature and intelligent minds (more developed than some of the teachers at the school I'd add, some of them were a pain in the ass to volunteers).

I volunteered to work at a kind of "hands-on" science museum, to show young children how electricity works, how magnetism works, how vacuum pumps work, how motors work. And many of them understood it, despite me having to kneel down to engage them face to face.

And children can not be mature at all, until they hit 18? And adults with a sub-50 IQ or no sense of right or wrong can get married and have sexual relations when they clearly cannot behave responsibly?

Really? I mean if we're going to set the standard to allow the mentally disabled to remain married and have a position as adults, there are THOUSANDS of children who more than qualify. They can act responsibly. They have ethics.

And I've talked with them, I've worked with them, I've watched them grow. Just because someone's 10 doesn't mean they're immediately an idiot.

Interesting.

I was a gifted child.

My friends were gifted children.

NONE of us had the capacity to make informed decisions, as intelligent as we were. At age 10, the brain is not fully developed. It continues developing until age 25 or so. Frankly, it would almost make more sense to not allow people to enter formal contracts until then, but the social upheaval required would be immense, and I suspect that there would be social unrest if such a thing were to ever be seriously proposed.

[SaintB]

Every morning I wake up and flip a coin heads for guys and tails for girls, I only don't like men because it only falls on tails.

NO it's not a choice, its not a trend, its not a fad its none of those things. What it is is a perfectly natural and normal sexual attraction and its no more common today than it was before; the only thing that has changed is people have become more accepting of it and so now those who are homosexual feel more free to come out about their feelings.

[Agymnum]

God, I hate extremists.

Well I'm offended....

You have a right to be offended. We also have a right, due to free speech, to say what we please and not give a fuck about your offense.

[Rawrckia]

You're trying to prove that life doesn't exist anywhere else in the universe again aren't you?

When did that happen?

Most of your posts in this thread have been 1 liners parroting someone else's post or saying "no ur wrong".

I would not consider you mentally or cognitively developed yet to be allowed to offer consent as you seem to be too timid to offer your own opinions.

This doesn't mean no 14 year old is mentally developed enough to make their own decisions.