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Homosexuality A Trend?

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Postby Mavorpen » Wed Jul 31, 2013 10:00 pm

The Misotheist Reich wrote:
Mavorpen wrote:How can something that evolution produced not be natural?


Evolution produced two opposite sexes for the purpose of procreation, and to ensure the surival of a species.

Homosexuality helps ensure the survival of the species and assists with procreation.

Glad you agree that homosexuality is natural.
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Postby Transnapastain » Wed Jul 31, 2013 10:00 pm

Rawrckia wrote:
Mavorpen wrote:He just seriously claimed that adoption didn't exist thousands of years ago.

Anything he says shouldn't be taken seriously.


Rome invented marriage and monogamous relationships then. It's settled.


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Postby Hetalian Indie Rio de Janeiro » Wed Jul 31, 2013 10:00 pm

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Marriage is a human right?
Should we legalize polygamy, child marriage, and marriage between siblings as well? I mean both parties are consenting.

Polygamy? A lot of homophobic countries are way ahead of you there, but sure? Why not? I'd love to have a romantic and totally egalitarian harem.
Child marriage? A lot of homophobic countries have beaten you to the punch there, but since children can't really consent to any legal contract...no.
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Postby Blasveck » Wed Jul 31, 2013 10:01 pm

The Misotheist Reich wrote:
Mavorpen wrote:How can something that evolution produced not be natural?


Evolution produced two opposite sexes for the purpose of procreation, and to ensure the surival of a species. Anything else is an ufortunate complication standing in the way of evolutions plan.


1. Animals can be homosexual. So obviously evolution intended that to be.
2. Still waiting on that source about homosexuality being a virus, otherwise, you're a blatant bullshitter.
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Postby New Libertarian States » Wed Jul 31, 2013 10:02 pm

The Misotheist Reich wrote:
Mavorpen wrote:How can something that evolution produced not be natural?


Evolution produced two opposite sexes for the purpose of procreation, and to ensure the surival of a species. Anything else is an ufortunate complication standing in the way of evolutions plan.

1:Evolution doesn't have a plan.
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Postby Mavorpen » Wed Jul 31, 2013 10:02 pm

Rawrckia wrote:"I can't read my own nested quote that states that "the argument is that it's a slippery slope""

So you DON'T have evidence 10 year olds can consent?
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Postby New haven america » Wed Jul 31, 2013 10:02 pm

Transnapastain wrote:


Yeah. linking to picture that say what you want to say, as opposed to actually saying it? Still flaming. Still *** warned *** for it.

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Postby New haven america » Wed Jul 31, 2013 10:03 pm

Mavorpen wrote:
Rawrckia wrote:"I can't read my own nested quote that states that "the argument is that it's a slippery slope""

So you DON'T have evidence 10 year olds can consent?

He say 10 YO's should consent if they're mature enough. :palm:
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Postby Mavorpen » Wed Jul 31, 2013 10:03 pm

New haven america wrote:
Mavorpen wrote:So you DON'T have evidence 10 year olds can consent?

He say 10 YO's should consent if they're mature enough. :palm:

Of course, that's based on the idea that consent is based on "maturity," which is wrong and idiotic.
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Postby Pacifornia » Wed Jul 31, 2013 10:04 pm

The Misotheist Reich wrote:If a relationship does not consist of a heterosexual man, and women capable of producing children it is not normal . Almost every basic human behavior is exihibted in inferior lifeforms such as dogs or monkeys . Homosexualism is not one of those behaviors. Homosexual relationships are not dictated by love, but indeed by a complex microorganism, or a gene more complex we can never begin to comprehend its abilities. It induces a form of sterilization by inhibiting the host from mating with a member of the opposite sex. Sexual organs where built for the sole purpose of procreation. So only a disease, or a genetic disorder can cause our built in attraction for the opposite sex to stop working.


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Postby Libraria and Ausitoria » Wed Jul 31, 2013 10:05 pm

Can we all calm down a little? Polite language and all that. The discussion about the potential future ability of people to change their sexual orientation and so create a real trend was getting quite interesting. Not to mention interesting stuff about Romans inventing adoption and doing away with polygamy - another historic shift in thinking.

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Postby New haven america » Wed Jul 31, 2013 10:05 pm

Mavorpen wrote:
New haven america wrote:He say 10 YO's should consent if they're mature enough. :palm:

Of course, that's based on the idea that consent is based on "maturity," which is wrong and idiotic.

He also said Adults can marry kids if both parties consent. :palm: :palm:
How fun. :P
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Postby Blasveck » Wed Jul 31, 2013 10:06 pm

Libraria and Ausitoria wrote:Can we all calm down a little? Polite language and all that. The discussion about the potential future ability of people to change their sexual orientation and so create a real trend was getting quite interesting.

(And no, I'm not a mod in disguise).


Alright then.

To start the discussion then:
Why do you believe this will be a trend in the future, then?
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Postby Siaos » Wed Jul 31, 2013 10:06 pm

I'm not sure if that is possible. I suppose you could say opening up about your previously existing homosexuality is becoming a trend, if that makes any sense.
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Postby Yumyumsuppertime » Wed Jul 31, 2013 10:07 pm

This is a terrible thread, with terrible arguments being made.

No, homosexuality is not a trend. It's always existed. What is trending is increased acceptance of homosexuality, meaning that more LGBT people are willing to come out of the closet.

And, no, 10 year old children cannot give informed consent. Are you fucking kidding me? Read up on brain function, child development, child psychology...hell, just SPEND SOME TIME AROUND CHILDREN, and you'll see that.

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Postby Mavorpen » Wed Jul 31, 2013 10:08 pm

Yumyumsuppertime wrote:
And, no, 10 year old children cannot give informed consent. Are you fucking kidding me? Read up on brain function, child development, child psychology...hell, just SPEND SOME TIME AROUND CHILDREN, and you'll see that.

But maturity!111!!oneone!!11
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Postby Furious Grandmothers » Wed Jul 31, 2013 10:09 pm

Mavorpen wrote:
Yumyumsuppertime wrote:
And, no, 10 year old children cannot give informed consent. Are you fucking kidding me? Read up on brain function, child development, child psychology...hell, just SPEND SOME TIME AROUND CHILDREN, and you'll see that.

But maturity!111!!oneone!!11

You mean m4+ur1+33z
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Postby Yumyumsuppertime » Wed Jul 31, 2013 10:09 pm

Libraria and Ausitoria wrote:Can we all calm down a little? Polite language and all that. The discussion about the potential future ability of people to change their sexual orientation and so create a real trend was getting quite interesting. Not to mention interesting stuff about Romans inventing adoption and doing away with polygamy - another historic shift in thinking.

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It's science fiction, is what it is. If you want to have a talk on people changing their sexual orientation and turning it into a trend, make it a roleplay in the appropriate section.

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Postby Libraria and Ausitoria » Wed Jul 31, 2013 10:10 pm

Blasveck wrote:Why do you believe this will be a trend in the future, then?


Like the OP says, Homosexuality is increasingly popular in the west; being able to fall in love with anybody will become an evolutionary advantage as opposed to a disadvantage, besides being more sought after; thus I confidently expect all sexual orientation categories to disintegrate, and for people to start to choose pretty much at will, and we'll all end up being ambisexual; not necessarily bisexual, but rather, able to change round our viewpoint at will.
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Postby New haven america » Wed Jul 31, 2013 10:12 pm

Mavorpen wrote:
Yumyumsuppertime wrote:
And, no, 10 year old children cannot give informed consent. Are you fucking kidding me? Read up on brain function, child development, child psychology...hell, just SPEND SOME TIME AROUND CHILDREN, and you'll see that.

But maturity!111!!oneone!!11

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Postby Hetalian Indie Rio de Janeiro » Wed Jul 31, 2013 10:12 pm

Libraria and Ausitoria wrote:
Blasveck wrote:Why do you believe this will be a trend in the future, then?


Like the OP says, Homosexuality is increasingly popular in the west; being able to fall in love with anybody will become an evolutionary advantage as opposed to a disadvantage, besides being more sought after; thus I confidently expect all sexual orientation categories to disintegrate, and for people to start to choose pretty much at will, and we'll all end up being ambisexual; not necessarily bisexual, but rather, able to change round our viewpoint at will.

That was pretty much the point of the Brazilian and Chilean pomosexual emos.
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Postby Yumyumsuppertime » Wed Jul 31, 2013 10:12 pm

Libraria and Ausitoria wrote:
Blasveck wrote:Why do you believe this will be a trend in the future, then?


Like the OP says, Homosexuality is increasingly popular in the west; being able to fall in love with anybody will become an evolutionary advantage as opposed to a disadvantage, besides being more sought after; thus I confidently expect all sexual orientation categories to disintegrate, and for people to start to choose pretty much at will, and we'll all end up being ambisexual; not necessarily bisexual, but rather, able to change round our viewpoint at will.


Being able to fly would have also been a great evolutionary advantage, but it didn't happen. It's unlikely that we're going to suddenly be able to switch back and forth, as pleasant as the concept is.

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Postby Blasveck » Wed Jul 31, 2013 10:14 pm

Libraria and Ausitoria wrote:
Blasveck wrote:Why do you believe this will be a trend in the future, then?


Like the OP says, Homosexuality is increasingly popular in the west; being able to fall in love with anybody will become an evolutionary advantage as opposed to a disadvantage, besides being more sought after; thus I confidently expect all sexual orientation categories to disintegrate, and for people to start to choose pretty much at will, and we'll all end up being ambisexual; not necessarily bisexual, but rather, able to change round our viewpoint at will.


That might happen at a larger scale, with everybody out of the closet, but certainly not to the entire race.
Besides, that still doesn't change the fact that people can't change their orientation. They can change their actions, but not their orientation.
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Postby Agymnum » Wed Jul 31, 2013 10:16 pm

Homosexuality is a trend in the same way heterosexuality is a trend, asexuality is a trend, pansexuality is a trend, bisexuality is a trend, etc.

Put simply, it isn't.
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Postby Hetalian Indie Rio de Janeiro » Wed Jul 31, 2013 10:16 pm

Blasveck wrote:
Libraria and Ausitoria wrote:Like the OP says, Homosexuality is increasingly popular in the west; being able to fall in love with anybody will become an evolutionary advantage as opposed to a disadvantage, besides being more sought after; thus I confidently expect all sexual orientation categories to disintegrate, and for people to start to choose pretty much at will, and we'll all end up being ambisexual; not necessarily bisexual, but rather, able to change round our viewpoint at will.

That might happen at a larger scale, with everybody out of the closet, but certainly not to the entire race.
Besides, that still doesn't change the fact that people can't change their orientation. They can change their actions, but not their orientation.

Sexuality isn't static, it is a dynamic process, and whether gay and gay-loving straight people like it or not there are no definite truths for everybody.
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Born 12/94. Weird in all senses starting at 07/2000. NSG's resident euro-carioca bara-fudanshi useless lazy perv. Agnostic atheist (not anti-religious), bi-affective homosexual/demiheterosexual (and bi-curious i.e. chronologically 95% bisexual-ish but 5% true bi), slightly more masculine of both tad neutral and tad ambiguous gender (human-/oneself-identified genderqueer; he, xe or ou, your preference), naturist, "worker" class, mildly hipster/japanophile, etc.

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