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Homosexuality A Trend?

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Postby New haven america » Wed Jul 31, 2013 9:07 pm

Riiser-Larsen wrote:
New haven america wrote:IDK. :unsure:
He just said he could be gay whenever he wanted, but doesn't want to because God doesn't want people to be gay.


Wow, how does this always come back to God?
Why would a pan-dimensional being, tasked with overseeing hundreds of thousands of prayers each day and tending to humanity, care that some guy was attracted to other men?

Because he said it was a perversion and that God and Nature didn't intend it.
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Postby Kinnickinee » Wed Jul 31, 2013 9:07 pm

Divair wrote:
German-Spanish Empire wrote:
Why not?

Would you say being black became a trend in the 60's? No? There we go.


Lol, I don't endorse the homosexuality as a trend theory.

But to answer your question:

Yes. THAT particular thing became a trend, of sorts. Although not in the sixties.
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Postby Valcouria » Wed Jul 31, 2013 9:07 pm

Pandeeria wrote:
Valcouria wrote:Like humans, animals also can have perversions...take the praying mantis; humans would be aghast if the female, after mating, ate the male. The fact that some animals show signs of homosexuality is just an affirmative that some perversions transcend species.

And as for your second point; we punish serial killers, don't we? That's who they are (granted I understand the point that they are causing actual harm to society, but you did ask the question).


It's not a preversion. It's genetic. How. Many. Times. Do. You. Need. To. Be. Told? It's normal to be gay, and even healthy to accept it. To have people repress themselves is unhealthy and can cause issues.

While we punish serial killers, they cause harm to society like you side. But gays do not.

You can tell me that until you're blue in the face, but I refuse to believe it. I steadfastly remain with my opinion that homosexuality is a perversion of the natural order, and that accepting it is harming society in the long run (which also happens to answer your second point).
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Postby Sierrastarinta » Wed Jul 31, 2013 9:07 pm

German-Spanish Empire wrote:
Gallup wrote:The choice part can be debated.


That I agree with. I know people that had kids and were married then as soon as it was acceptable,they "came out".



Whilst I may be late, this occurs due to the need to retain and save face. In many societies and cultures where face-saving is common, they have lavender marriages to maintain the appearance of heterosexuality. In many cases, the husband is forced by a moral standard to have children and to have sex with his wife outside of the line of preference. Outside of that Bi-sexuality is very common based on the Kinsey scale, because it very rare for someone to fall completely on either end of the spectrum.

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Postby Geilinor » Wed Jul 31, 2013 9:07 pm

Maklohi Vai wrote:
Cadaver breadsticks wrote:They were founded in 2012

Oh... :meh:

Can someone please explain to me how these posts aren't contradictory?
viewtopic.php?p=15870640#p15870640 (Choice)
viewtopic.php?p=15870736#p15870736 (Genetics)

They're 100% contradictory. Valcouria just self-destructed his whole argument.
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Postby New Libertarian States » Wed Jul 31, 2013 9:07 pm

New haven america wrote:
New Libertarian States wrote:Wut.
How....how does that work excatly?

IDK. :unsure:
He just said he could be gay whenever he wanted, but doesn't want to because God doesn't want people to be gay.

I mean, if your dealing with the Old Testament YAWEH, that god is a general dick.
New Testament, not so much.
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Postby Cadaver breadsticks » Wed Jul 31, 2013 9:07 pm

Genivaria wrote:
Genivaria wrote:Wait, wait, wait hold on.

So it's NOT a choice!? :eyebrow: Make up your mind.

I'd like an answer to this.

Valc has been ignoring every post that heavily refutes his argument. I wouldn't take it personally.
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Postby The Scientific States » Wed Jul 31, 2013 9:08 pm

Solaray wrote:
The Scientific States wrote:
Really :eyebrow: . The gay rights campaign is there to give rights to people. That's a really good thing.

Yes, it is generally a good thing. That doesn't mean it's not a trend/bandwagon though. SOme people don't really pay attention to it and just support because their favourite celebrities say so.


I'm going to have to disagree, most people support gay rights now because they're becoming more tolerant.
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Postby Pandeeria » Wed Jul 31, 2013 9:08 pm

Genivaria wrote:
Genivaria wrote:Wait, wait, wait hold on.

So it's NOT a choice!? :eyebrow: Make up your mind.

I'd like an answer to this.


He probably will ignore it like it never existed :lol2:
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Postby The Scientific States » Wed Jul 31, 2013 9:08 pm

Pandeeria wrote:
Genivaria wrote:I'd like an answer to this.


He probably will ignore it like it never existed :lol2:


He's ignored several posts that proved him wrong.
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Postby Genivaria » Wed Jul 31, 2013 9:08 pm

Valcouria wrote:
Pandeeria wrote:
It's not a preversion. It's genetic. How. Many. Times. Do. You. Need. To. Be. Told? It's normal to be gay, and even healthy to accept it. To have people repress themselves is unhealthy and can cause issues.

While we punish serial killers, they cause harm to society like you side. But gays do not.

You can tell me that until you're blue in the face, but I refuse to believe it. I steadfastly remain with my opinion that homosexuality is a perversion of the natural order, and that accepting it is harming society in the long run (which also happens to answer your second point).

Because your beliefs aren't based in reality.

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Postby Tlaceceyaya » Wed Jul 31, 2013 9:08 pm

Valcouria wrote:
Pandeeria wrote:
It's not a preversion. It's genetic. How. Many. Times. Do. You. Need. To. Be. Told? It's normal to be gay, and even healthy to accept it. To have people repress themselves is unhealthy and can cause issues.

While we punish serial killers, they cause harm to society like you side. But gays do not.

You can tell me that until you're blue in the face, but I refuse to believe it. I steadfastly remain with my opinion that homosexuality is a perversion of the natural order, and that accepting it is harming society in the long run (which also happens to answer your second point).

Demonstrate how the fuck letting consenting individuals have sex with each other when they both have penises or vaginas harms society, and how something natural is unnatural.
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Postby New haven america » Wed Jul 31, 2013 9:08 pm

New Libertarian States wrote:
New haven america wrote:IDK. :unsure:
He just said he could be gay whenever he wanted, but doesn't want to because God doesn't want people to be gay.

I mean, if your dealing with the Old Testament YAWEH, that god is a general dick.
New Testament, not so much.

He also said it was a perversion in nature.
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Postby Genivaria » Wed Jul 31, 2013 9:09 pm

Cadaver breadsticks wrote:
Genivaria wrote:I'd like an answer to this.

Valc has been ignoring every post that heavily refutes his argument. I wouldn't take it personally.

Oh I don't take it personally, I just like exposing him as a liar.

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Postby Geilinor » Wed Jul 31, 2013 9:09 pm

The Scientific States wrote:
Pandeeria wrote:
He probably will ignore it like it never existed :lol2:


He's ignored several posts that proved him wrong.

I'm going to post that again, because some people are just too blind to see.
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Postby Riiser-Larsen » Wed Jul 31, 2013 9:09 pm

Geilinor wrote:
Riiser-Larsen wrote:
Wow, how does this always come back to God?
Why would a pan-dimensional being, tasked with overseeing hundreds of thousands of prayers each day and tending to humanity, care that some guy was attracted to other men?

I don't know. Ask Valcouria.


I've actually sent him a telegram to ask about that stuff.
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Postby Cadaver breadsticks » Wed Jul 31, 2013 9:09 pm

Valcouria wrote:
Pandeeria wrote:
It's not a preversion. It's genetic. How. Many. Times. Do. You. Need. To. Be. Told? It's normal to be gay, and even healthy to accept it. To have people repress themselves is unhealthy and can cause issues.

While we punish serial killers, they cause harm to society like you side. But gays do not.

You can tell me that until you're blue in the face, but I refuse to believe it. I steadfastly remain with my opinion that homosexuality is a perversion of the natural order, and that accepting it is harming society in the long run (which also happens to answer your second point).

And everyone with but a thread of decency will continue to laugh at opinions as outlandishly lamentable as yours.
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Postby Libraria and Ausitoria » Wed Jul 31, 2013 9:09 pm

Hathradic States wrote:True homosexuality? No.

All the teenage girls who go about saying their bi to get laid? Yeah, I think so.


I'll agree with you for the moment, but I wouldn't bet on people not being able to choose their sexuality within this century. Society and scientists are making the world more interesting every day.
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Postby New Libertarian States » Wed Jul 31, 2013 9:09 pm

New haven america wrote:
New Libertarian States wrote:I mean, if your dealing with the Old Testament YAWEH, that god is a general dick.
New Testament, not so much.

He also said it was a perversion in nature.

:eyebrow:
Has he never observed nature?
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When the beating of our ignore cannon
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Postby Threlizdun » Wed Jul 31, 2013 9:09 pm

Valcouria wrote:
Pandeeria wrote:It's not a preversion. It's genetic. How. Many. Times. Do. You. Need. To. Be. Told? It's normal to be gay, and even healthy to accept it. To have people repress themselves is unhealthy and can cause issues.

While we punish serial killers, they cause harm to society like you side. But gays do not.

You can tell me that until you're blue in the face, but I refuse to believe it. I steadfastly remain with my opinion that homosexuality is a perversion of the natural order, and that accepting it is harming society in the long run (which also happens to answer your second point).
You have admitted that you think its genetic several times already.
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Postby The Scientific States » Wed Jul 31, 2013 9:09 pm

Valcouria wrote:
Pandeeria wrote:
It's not a preversion. It's genetic. How. Many. Times. Do. You. Need. To. Be. Told? It's normal to be gay, and even healthy to accept it. To have people repress themselves is unhealthy and can cause issues.

While we punish serial killers, they cause harm to society like you side. But gays do not.

You can tell me that until you're blue in the face, but I refuse to believe it. I steadfastly remain with my opinion that homosexuality is a perversion of the natural order, and that accepting it is harming society in the long run (which also happens to answer your second point).


How does somebody who has a different sexual preference than most, a harm to society?
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Postby Lotari » Wed Jul 31, 2013 9:09 pm

Hathradic States wrote:True homosexuality? No.

All the teenage girls who go about saying their bi to get laid? Yeah, I think so.

Which, as a lesbian myself, is rather horrible.

Having so many people you date decide they don't want to be with a girl and treat you like a piece of shit is not exactly the greatest feeling in the world.

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Postby Mavorpen » Wed Jul 31, 2013 9:09 pm

Valcouria wrote:
Pandeeria wrote:
It's not a preversion. It's genetic. How. Many. Times. Do. You. Need. To. Be. Told? It's normal to be gay, and even healthy to accept it. To have people repress themselves is unhealthy and can cause issues.

While we punish serial killers, they cause harm to society like you side. But gays do not.

You can tell me that until you're blue in the face, but I refuse to believe it. I steadfastly remain with my opinion that homosexuality is a perversion of the natural order, and that accepting it is harming society in the long run (which also happens to answer your second point).

How is something that is the product of evolution unnatural?
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Postby Torcularis Septentrionalis » Wed Jul 31, 2013 9:09 pm

Riiser-Larsen wrote:
New haven america wrote:IDK. :unsure:
He just said he could be gay whenever he wanted, but doesn't want to because God doesn't want people to be gay.


Wow, how does this always come back to God?
Why would a pan-dimensional being, tasked with overseeing hundreds of thousands of prayers each day and tending to humanity, care that some guy was attracted to other men?

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Postby Solaray » Wed Jul 31, 2013 9:10 pm

The Scientific States wrote:
Solaray wrote:Yes, it is generally a good thing. That doesn't mean it's not a trend/bandwagon though. SOme people don't really pay attention to it and just support because their favourite celebrities say so.


I'm going to have to disagree, most people support gay rights now because they're becoming more tolerant.

Perhaps, but by the general definition of "trend", gay rights are "trendy".
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