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Postby Mavorpen » Wed Jul 31, 2013 11:55 am

I've dabbled in all of them except for Russian. All I have to say is: fuck French.

In all seriousness, none of the above.
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Postby Forster Keys » Wed Jul 31, 2013 11:56 am

Souseiseki wrote:
Firmador wrote:-All that stuff Mery said-

Good, I'm glad they did. (Moslems dead)

And idk if you remember the little kids that beat up the 'scary brown kids' we're so afraid of, but I was one of them. (Oh it wasn't fair, it was a lot of people against one or three. But flying a plane into a civilian target ain't fair either)

This particular discussion isn't going to go anywhere, so let's drop it because I just won't respond (cuz I will, I will, get banned)


oh it's totally going somewhere

did the kids fly planes into buildings or did you just do it because that's what good socialists do?


What? Socialism means ganging up and racially abusing your peers right?

But seriously OP, have a think about what you're saying.
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Postby Forster Keys » Wed Jul 31, 2013 11:57 am

Mavorpen wrote:I've dabbled in all of them except for Russian. All I have to say is: fuck French.

In all seriousness, none of the above.


French is alright. I want to learn Russian though.
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Postby Firmador » Wed Jul 31, 2013 11:59 am

Forster Keys wrote:
Souseiseki wrote:
oh it's totally going somewhere

did the kids fly planes into buildings or did you just do it because that's what good socialists do?


What? Socialism means ganging up and racially abusing your peers right?

But seriously OP, have a think about what you're saying.


Lol.

Every action a Socialist commits is Socialists.

So every action a Capitalist country commits is Capitalist.

I guess Genocide, Mass Rape and Welfare are all Capitalist.

I dislike them for personal reasons, I abused them for personal reasons.

It has no connection, at all, with Socialism. And it's, frankly, stupid that you'd make such a linkage.

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Postby Sahrani DR » Wed Jul 31, 2013 11:59 am

Forster Keys wrote:
Mavorpen wrote:I've dabbled in all of them except for Russian. All I have to say is: fuck French.

In all seriousness, none of the above.


French is alright. I want to learn Russian though.


Do you know any good way to learn it online?
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Postby Souseiseki » Wed Jul 31, 2013 12:03 pm

Firmador wrote:
Forster Keys wrote:
What? Socialism means ganging up and racially abusing your peers right?

But seriously OP, have a think about what you're saying.


Lol.

Every action a Socialist commits is Socialists.

So every action a Capitalist country commits is Capitalist.

I guess Genocide, Mass Rape and Welfare are all Capitalist.

I dislike them for personal reasons, I abused them for personal reasons.

It has no connection, at all, with Socialism. And it's, frankly, stupid that you'd make such a linkage.


dividing and attacking the working classes based on race is very self-evidently unsocialistic. quite reactionary actually. add that to your record.

you can't get all angry over 9/11 and beat up people who were entirely unrelated to 9/11, then say you're happy that people died in 9/11 because you hate them because of... 9/11. even if only because drawing a chart of this logic would make my head pop.

Sahrani DR wrote:
Forster Keys wrote:
French is alright. I want to learn Russian though.


Do you know any good way to learn it online?


frenchtutorial was pretty cool when i had a phase, but since i never really learned french i can't really vouch for it.
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Postby Nevanmaa » Wed Jul 31, 2013 12:05 pm

I'd go with French, but that's only because I've studied for almost 10 years myself.

I can write, read and speak it decently, but understanding spoken French is just... impossible. The words go too fast, and if you miss one then it takes 10 seconds to catch up and by then, you're already lost and confused.
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Postby Lantianguo » Wed Jul 31, 2013 12:05 pm

... what the hell happened to this thread since I went to sleep? o.O
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Postby Firmador » Wed Jul 31, 2013 12:07 pm

Souseiseki wrote:
Firmador wrote:
Lol.

Every action a Socialist commits is Socialists.

So every action a Capitalist country commits is Capitalist.

I guess Genocide, Mass Rape and Welfare are all Capitalist.

I dislike them for personal reasons, I abused them for personal reasons.

It has no connection, at all, with Socialism. And it's, frankly, stupid that you'd make such a linkage.


dividing and attacking the working classes based on race is very unsocialistic. quite reactionary actually. add that to your record.

you can't get all angry over 9/11 and beat up people who were entirely unrelated to 9/11, then say you're happy that people died in 9/11 because you hate them because of... 9/11. even if only because drawing a chart of this logic would make my head pop.


You're an idiot.

Quit flame-baiting me.

You're not going to change my opinion. No one is.

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Divide the Working Class based on race is not what I'm talking about. It's a personal opinion, are you really that stupid? Can you not read? Did your mother get fucked too hard by a bunch of random dudes when she was pregnant for you to be born and stay as fucking dumb as you are?

I'm, if you want to get political, speaking of ridding the State of a Dissident Element. We must do everything in our power to defeat the Bourgeois, hail Stalin (cuz, u know, he was obvly an actual Socialist and not just some tyrant).
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Postby Geilinor » Wed Jul 31, 2013 12:07 pm

Risottia wrote:
Firmador wrote:...

I'm interested in the hole Zollerhern (serious SP?) economic community they had and how it helped to meld together North Germany into a more solid union (also interested in how the iron ore-smelting-coal-steel-railway-banking vertical businesses helped Germany, but in places like Central America where the exports had less backward and forward linkages these served to make banks the captives of their Coffee-owning depositors) starting in the 1820s (1810s????). This is mainly because, 1. Germany has, imo, some of the best politik-war philosophy, 2. Germany is freaking awesome, 3. Germany is pretty close to English and from the limited contact I've seen it's not really all that difficult and the cases are simple, and 4. I want to more closely study the old information on how the Free Trade Zone (horrible spelling of Zollerhern w/e) bonded the independent peoples, and how the same could be accomplish from Guatemala to Costa Rica.
...


From what I just read, you should first try to get fluency in English.

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Postby Mavorpen » Wed Jul 31, 2013 12:07 pm

Forster Keys wrote:
Mavorpen wrote:I've dabbled in all of them except for Russian. All I have to say is: fuck French.

In all seriousness, none of the above.


French is alright. I want to learn Russian though.

I tried French first. Hated it. Then I tried German. It was made easier because I was used to the conjugation styles already and there were similar rules but I eventually dropped it. Now I'm learning Japanese and enjoying every minute of it.
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Postby Souseiseki » Wed Jul 31, 2013 12:10 pm

Firmador wrote:
Souseiseki wrote:
dividing and attacking the working classes based on race is very unsocialistic. quite reactionary actually. add that to your record.

you can't get all angry over 9/11 and beat up people who were entirely unrelated to 9/11, then say you're happy that people died in 9/11 because you hate them because of... 9/11. even if only because drawing a chart of this logic would make my head pop.


You're an idiot.

Quit flame-baiting me.

You're not going to change my opinion. No one is.

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Divide the Working Class based on race is not what I'm talking about. It's a personal opinion, are you really that stupid? Can you not read? Did your mother get fucked too hard by a bunch of random dudes for you to be born and stay as fucking dumb as you are?

I'm, if you want to get political, speaking of ridding the State of a Dissident Element. We must do everything in our power to defeat the Bourgeois, hail Stalin (cuz, u know, he was obvly an actual Socialist and not just some tyrant).


i don't see how i'm flamebaiting. i'm not the one saying i'm happy that people died in 9/11 (as long as they were "muslem") and implying dirty things about people and their mothers. hell, if anythying, you're the one that's flamebaiting, but i digress.

sorry, while you were talking about attacking people because of their race/religion that idea entered my head. forgive my confusion.
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Postby Euroslavia » Wed Jul 31, 2013 12:11 pm

Firmador wrote:
Souseiseki wrote:
dividing and attacking the working classes based on race is very unsocialistic. quite reactionary actually. add that to your record.

you can't get all angry over 9/11 and beat up people who were entirely unrelated to 9/11, then say you're happy that people died in 9/11 because you hate them because of... 9/11. even if only because drawing a chart of this logic would make my head pop.


You're an idiot.

Quit flame-baiting me.

You're not going to change my opinion. No one is.

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Divide the Working Class based on race is not what I'm talking about. It's a personal opinion, are you really that stupid? Can you not read? Did your mother get fucked too hard by a bunch of random dudes when she was pregnant for you to be born and stay as fucking dumb as you are?

I'm, if you want to get political, speaking of ridding the State of a Dissident Element. We must do everything in our power to defeat the Bourgeois, hail Stalin (cuz, u know, he was obvly an actual Socialist and not just some tyrant).


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Postby Geilinor » Wed Jul 31, 2013 12:14 pm

Firmador wrote:
Forster Keys wrote:
What? Socialism means ganging up and racially abusing your peers right?

But seriously OP, have a think about what you're saying.



Every action a Socialist commits is Socialists.

So every action a Capitalist country commits is Capitalist.

What?
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Postby Forster Keys » Wed Jul 31, 2013 12:15 pm

Firmador wrote:
Forster Keys wrote:
What? Socialism means ganging up and racially abusing your peers right?

But seriously OP, have a think about what you're saying.


Lol.

Every action a Socialist commits is Socialists.

So every action a Capitalist country commits is Capitalist.

I guess Genocide, Mass Rape and Welfare are all Capitalist.

I dislike them for personal reasons, I abused them for personal reasons.

It has no connection, at all, with Socialism. And it's, frankly, stupid that you'd make such a linkage.


It's more your behaviour is being remarked upon as fundamentally at odds with what are normally considered socialist principles.
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Postby Forster Keys » Wed Jul 31, 2013 12:16 pm

Sahrani DR wrote:
Forster Keys wrote:
French is alright. I want to learn Russian though.


Do you know any good way to learn it online?


Sorry, I'm unsure. I learn it at uni. :(
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Postby Forster Keys » Wed Jul 31, 2013 12:17 pm

Nevanmaa wrote:I'd go with French, but that's only because I've studied for almost 10 years myself.

I can write, read and speak it decently, but understanding spoken French is just... impossible. The words go too fast, and if you miss one then it takes 10 seconds to catch up and by then, you're already lost and confused.


I do alright on speaking exercises, where they talk deliberately slow and clear, but the French news? I'm clueless.
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Postby The Truth and Light » Wed Jul 31, 2013 12:18 pm

Sahrani DR wrote:
Forster Keys wrote:
French is alright. I want to learn Russian though.


Do you know any good way to learn it online?

bbc.co.uk/languages is a good place to start. You can also get a good start on Duolingo, it's a fun learning service.

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Postby Tetryx » Wed Jul 31, 2013 12:21 pm

This has gone off topic...let's talk about Spanish and why it is genetically impossible for me to roll my tongue!
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Postby Nevanmaa » Wed Jul 31, 2013 12:22 pm

Forster Keys wrote:
Nevanmaa wrote:I'd go with French, but that's only because I've studied for almost 10 years myself.

I can write, read and speak it decently, but understanding spoken French is just... impossible. The words go too fast, and if you miss one then it takes 10 seconds to catch up and by then, you're already lost and confused.


I do alright on speaking exercises, where they talk deliberately slow and clear, but the French news? I'm clueless.

I know that feel.

I watched some French election ads a while ago on Youtube; there were versions with French subtitles and without subtitles. Without subtitles, I could understand something here and there, but I couldn't understand any coherent sentences. When I watched the same videos with subtitles, I understood everything.
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Postby The Truth and Light » Wed Jul 31, 2013 12:24 pm

Tetryx wrote:This has gone off topic...let's talk about Spanish and why it is genetically impossible for me to roll my tongue!

Genetically impossible? How? :?

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Postby Forster Keys » Wed Jul 31, 2013 12:31 pm

Nevanmaa wrote:
Forster Keys wrote:
I do alright on speaking exercises, where they talk deliberately slow and clear, but the French news? I'm clueless.

I know that feel.

I watched some French election ads a while ago on Youtube; there were versions with French subtitles and without subtitles. Without subtitles, I could understand something here and there, but I couldn't understand any coherent sentences. When I watched the same videos with subtitles, I understood everything.


I think the key at that stage is immersion. I remember when my aunty had an Italian exchange student. At the start, he had to put English subtitles below our TV shows to understand them, but after a couple of weeks he didn't need them.
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Postby Forster Keys » Wed Jul 31, 2013 12:31 pm

The Truth and Light wrote:
Tetryx wrote:This has gone off topic...let's talk about Spanish and why it is genetically impossible for me to roll my tongue!

Genetically impossible? How? :?


Not at all, just difficult after a certain age.
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Postby The Truth and Light » Wed Jul 31, 2013 12:33 pm

Forster Keys wrote:
The Truth and Light wrote:Genetically impossible? How? :?


Not at all, just difficult after a certain age.

Well it depends.

If they meant genetically impossible as in, "I'm a native speaker of English from a young age so the Spanish R is difficult for me," you'd be correct.

If they meant genetically impossible as in they have a deformed tongue or no tongue at all, I could excuse not learning Spanish.
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Postby Forster Keys » Wed Jul 31, 2013 12:42 pm

The Truth and Light wrote:
Forster Keys wrote:
Not at all, just difficult after a certain age.

Well it depends.

If they meant genetically impossible as in, "I'm a native speaker of English from a young age so the Spanish R is difficult for me," you'd be correct.

If they meant genetically impossible as in they have a deformed tongue or no tongue at all, I could excuse not learning Spanish.


I didn't even consider that. Very true.
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