Third Language Woes

[Fulflood]

Too much like Spanish is an overstatement, as Catalonian and Portuguese, which are very beautiful in themselves are very similiar to Spanish as well.

And, Italian is actually quite different, I've learned some Spanish, and although Italian's similiar, Italian does share a lot more words with Latin than Spanish, and the two can be found to be pretty different.

If anything, I'll start with this; Don't learn German. The sound's awful, many words don't mean what you think it means, and the cases I still have nightmares about.

I like the sound, and it probably has as many false friends as say, French, but the cases? Fuck the cases.

Whose idea was it to make four different classes of preposition, each with a different case(s)? Why have they done this to us?

[Firmador]

What?

If a woman is willing to let me get into something that should not be gotten into until matrimony, she's a salacious bitch (woman in heat).

I'm biologically driven to sleep with her, just as she is to me, but culturally she needs to keep it in her pants for repercussion. I don't.

I absolutely love Traditional culture, holding the door, etc. But I call 'em as I see 'em.

your social views so far are effectively indistinguishable from that of the reactionaries, so it's not exactly hard to see why people are raising their eyebrows at you

It's K.

What is reactionary about me, besides the culture, ofc. Because, that, that is reactionary of me.

[SFR Superior]

your social views so far are effectively indistinguishable from that of the reactionaries, so it's not exactly hard to see why people are raising their eyebrows at you

This. Learn more languages, that way more women will know not to try to talk to you.

[Firmador]

your social views so far are effectively indistinguishable from that of the reactionaries, so it's not exactly hard to see why people are raising their eyebrows at you

This. Learn more languages, that way more women will know not to try to talk to you.

So this has just gone down to bashing me because you oppose my beliefs.

It's probably time to have a mod close this thread.

[Fulflood]

your social views so far are effectively indistinguishable from that of the reactionaries, so it's not exactly hard to see why people are raising their eyebrows at you

It's K.

What is reactionary about me, besides the culture, ofc. Because, that, that is reactionary of me.

"What's socialist about me except for my unwavering belief in worker ownership of the means of production?" would be an equally ridiculous question.

Perhaps you could edit the OP (get rid of the slurs) to try and shift the debate back to the merits of learning particular langauges.

[Firmador]

It's K.

What is reactionary about me, besides the culture, ofc. Because, that, that is reactionary of me.

"What's socialist about me except for my unwavering belief in worker ownership of the means of production?" would be an equally ridiculous question.

I actually am more for redistribution rather than transferring ownership of the means of production.

Except in Agriculture, Co-operatives seem to be alright. I need to do more research on the worker-owned Spanish conglomerate (forgot the biggest one's name).

Are you mad about what I said about rich women quitting leaving their work? It's data, you can find it yourself if you'd like.

[Vazdania]

So I've been learning Spanish for a couple of years now, nothing really all too good but my reading is okay (a lot of inference, but deduction is p. easy) and I went on this English-Spanish chatboard, only had to translate one word. Reading a couple more books, but most of the basic grammar I've already review like a hundred time. Have a 500 verb list I need to memorize (and 2 more books to finish) but after that I honestly feel like all I need is to go to a Spanish-speaking country for a month or two and I'll be set on the language (could go to a cousin's too, but where's the fun in that?)

I'm trying to pick on a third though, here are the candidates and why (if anyone has any strong position for Russian, I'm all ears but from what I've heard it's bloody rough to learn):
German,

I'm interested in the hole Zollerhern (serious SP?) economic community they had and how it helped to meld together North Germany into a more solid union (also interested in how the iron ore-smelting-coal-steel-railway-banking vertical businesses helped Germany, but in places like Central America where the exports had less backward and forward linkages these served to make banks the captives of their Coffee-owning depositors) starting in the 1820s (1810s????). This is mainly because, 1. Germany has, imo, some of the best politik-war philosophy, 2. Germany is freaking awesome, 3. Germany is pretty close to English and from the limited contact I've seen it's not really all that difficult and the cases are simple, and 4. I want to more closely study the old information on how the Free Trade Zone (horrible spelling of Zollerhern w/e) bonded the independent peoples, and how the same could be accomplish from Guatemala to Costa Rica.

French,

French is epic. No, if, ands, or butts about it. For every American who says we saved France in World War 1 (we did) and World War 2 (we barely did), there's another dumbass that completely ignores their service to us (viva Napoleon!) in the Revolution and 1812.
1. French is sexy, French bitches are sexy. 2. I really like Canada, I mean this has nothing really to do with the French, just that it's spoken in one break-away wanting region. And, well, the Canuks don't like the French-Canuks anyways. 3. I mean it really just comes down to how mellifluous the language and rich the history is..., 4. Also, not so difficult from what I've seen but others have stated its pretty rough (pedantic Grammatical rules aren't bad for me, I have a pretty good memory)

Swedish,

I had a fiegning interest in moving to Sweden. Quick note, I forgot the name, I think it's called Kafi or something, but like the British have tea-time the Swedes have COFFEE-TIME. And I love Coffee. Love it. Sweden also has, along with Russia (and Scandinavia) and average breast size larger than D. Which is like, omfg, lovely. They, however, do not have C&C (concealed and carry) laws which is a GARGANTUAN bummer. And yea, I just like Sweden because of how the gov'ts run and I want to do some research on anti-corruption practices (Singapore would probably be better, but damn Sweden is lovely) Plus I like the Cold, a lot. And white women. And Blond hair.

Russia,

I just love the women. And, I think the agricultural industry over there is ripe for the taking, very fertile and unused land. Needs to be sold to the private sector (and I'm a Socialist!)

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The biggest benefit, as far as I'm aware (and please DO correct me if I'm wrong), is that being a citizen of any of the EU-members means I can more easily move within Europe. That'd be fantastic.

Thoughts?

(From my experience) If you really want to learn Spanish, you should have learned French first.

I spent a year in a Spanish class and I barely learned anything.
I spent a month in a French class and almost learned the language.
Then I went back to learning Spanish and I understood most of everything.

[Forster Keys]

I like the sound, and it probably has as many false friends as say, French, but the cases? Fuck the cases.

Whose idea was it to make four different classes of preposition, each with a different case(s)? Why have they done this to us?

I'm curious as to how it even developed?

[Firmador]

So I've been learning Spanish for a couple of years now, nothing really all too good but my reading is okay (a lot of inference, but deduction is p. easy) and I went on this English-Spanish chatboard, only had to translate one word. Reading a couple more books, but most of the basic grammar I've already review like a hundred time. Have a 500 verb list I need to memorize (and 2 more books to finish) but after that I honestly feel like all I need is to go to a Spanish-speaking country for a month or two and I'll be set on the language (could go to a cousin's too, but where's the fun in that?)

I'm trying to pick on a third though, here are the candidates and why (if anyone has any strong position for Russian, I'm all ears but from what I've heard it's bloody rough to learn):
German,

I'm interested in the hole Zollerhern (serious SP?) economic community they had and how it helped to meld together North Germany into a more solid union (also interested in how the iron ore-smelting-coal-steel-railway-banking vertical businesses helped Germany, but in places like Central America where the exports had less backward and forward linkages these served to make banks the captives of their Coffee-owning depositors) starting in the 1820s (1810s????). This is mainly because, 1. Germany has, imo, some of the best politik-war philosophy, 2. Germany is freaking awesome, 3. Germany is pretty close to English and from the limited contact I've seen it's not really all that difficult and the cases are simple, and 4. I want to more closely study the old information on how the Free Trade Zone (horrible spelling of Zollerhern w/e) bonded the independent peoples, and how the same could be accomplish from Guatemala to Costa Rica.

French,

French is epic. No, if, ands, or butts about it. For every American who says we saved France in World War 1 (we did) and World War 2 (we barely did), there's another dumbass that completely ignores their service to us (viva Napoleon!) in the Revolution and 1812.
1. French is sexy, French bitches are sexy. 2. I really like Canada, I mean this has nothing really to do with the French, just that it's spoken in one break-away wanting region. And, well, the Canuks don't like the French-Canuks anyways. 3. I mean it really just comes down to how mellifluous the language and rich the history is..., 4. Also, not so difficult from what I've seen but others have stated its pretty rough (pedantic Grammatical rules aren't bad for me, I have a pretty good memory)

Swedish,

I had a fiegning interest in moving to Sweden. Quick note, I forgot the name, I think it's called Kafi or something, but like the British have tea-time the Swedes have COFFEE-TIME. And I love Coffee. Love it. Sweden also has, along with Russia (and Scandinavia) and average breast size larger than D. Which is like, omfg, lovely. They, however, do not have C&C (concealed and carry) laws which is a GARGANTUAN bummer. And yea, I just like Sweden because of how the gov'ts run and I want to do some research on anti-corruption practices (Singapore would probably be better, but damn Sweden is lovely) Plus I like the Cold, a lot. And white women. And Blond hair.

Russia,

I just love the women. And, I think the agricultural industry over there is ripe for the taking, very fertile and unused land. Needs to be sold to the private sector (and I'm a Socialist!)

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The biggest benefit, as far as I'm aware (and please DO correct me if I'm wrong), is that being a citizen of any of the EU-members means I can more easily move within Europe. That'd be fantastic.

Thoughts?

(From my experience) If you really want to learn Spanish, you should have learned French first.

I spent a year in a Spanish class and I barely learned anything.
I spent a month in a French class and almost learned the language.
Then I went back to learning Spanish and I understood most of everything.

Vaz, from my understand a lot of learning curve in French is the grammer, yes?

[Forster Keys]

You can advocate for worker control of the economy and be fairly sexist at the same time you know.

I know, I've been at this game for a while. Far be it from me to claim who is a 'proper' socialist, but any radical leftist worth his or her salt shouldn't treat half of the world's working class as meat.

Not condoning it by any means.

[Vazdania]

(From my experience) If you really want to learn Spanish, you should have learned French first.

I spent a year in a Spanish class and I barely learned anything.
I spent a month in a French class and almost learned the language.
Then I went back to learning Spanish and I understood most of everything.

Vaz, from my understand a lot of learning curve in French is the grammer, yes?

Yes.

[Galla-]

Swedish.

[Fulflood]

"What's socialist about me except for my unwavering belief in worker ownership of the means of production?" would be an equally ridiculous question.

I actually am more for redistribution rather than transferring ownership of the means of production.

Except in Agriculture, Co-operatives seem to be alright. I need to do more research on the worker-owned Spanish conglomerate (forgot the biggest one's name).

Are you mad about what I said about rich women quitting leaving their work? It's data, you can find it yourself if you'd like.

I'm personally a little peeved about your constant slurs and objectification of women in the OP, and the fact that you're considering languages based on your perceived attractiveness of stereotypical 'bitches' from those nations.

[The lost city of xqlzx]

Quechua

[Marquette of Pacific]

Choisissez français, c'est la meilleur langue dans le monde!

[Vazdania]

Choisissez français, c'est la meilleur langue dans le monde!

Oui!

[Firmador]

Vaz, from my understand a lot of learning curve in French is the grammer, yes?

Yes.

What percentage would you say?

I remember Petain's World War I rally, "They shall not pass!"

But if you look at it in French its like a paragraph, lol (I'm exaggerating, but someone on this forum would stupidly dog me down if I don't make that explicit )

[Yorkopolis]

I actually am more for redistribution rather than transferring ownership of the means of production.

Except in Agriculture, Co-operatives seem to be alright. I need to do more research on the worker-owned Spanish conglomerate (forgot the biggest one's name).

Are you mad about what I said about rich women quitting leaving their work? It's data, you can find it yourself if you'd like.

I'm personally a little peeved about your constant slurs and objectification of women in the OP, and the fact that you're considering languages based on your perceived attractiveness of stereotypical 'bitches' from those nations.

That, indeed, bothers me, too. But I should stop threadjacking it, even though it's indeed bothersome how one claiming to be a socialist can objectify women in such an awfully sexist way.

[Vazdania]

Yes.

What percentage would you say?

I remember Petain's World War I rally, "They shall not pass!"

But if you look at it in French its like a paragraph, lol (I'm exaggerating, but someone on this forum would stupidly dog me down if I don't make that explicit )

I've no idea, because it differs from teacher to teacher. My teacher placed a strict emphasis on learning words and the culture of France.

[Firmador]

I actually am more for redistribution rather than transferring ownership of the means of production.

Except in Agriculture, Co-operatives seem to be alright. I need to do more research on the worker-owned Spanish conglomerate (forgot the biggest one's name).

Are you mad about what I said about rich women quitting leaving their work? It's data, you can find it yourself if you'd like.

I'm personally a little peeved about your constant slurs and objectification of women in the OP, and the fact that you're considering languages based on your perceived attractiveness of stereotypical 'bitches' from those nations.

Perceived?

Faces are made from the gene pool, different countries have different, average, characteristics.

Do you want me to post the World's Map of average cup size? Is it really a sin to want to go somewhere that has something I like better? Wine, the laws, the landscape, what makes going to it over a women, on top of the other benefits, so awful? I'm a guy, I objectify. Women objectify, they constantly judge each other subconsciously and consciously based on their bodies.

[Fulflood]

Whose idea was it to make four different classes of preposition, each with a different case(s)? Why have they done this to us?

I'm curious as to how it even developed?

And how has it stayed that way for so long? I mean, why hasn't someone just said "Fuck it, I'm just gonna use accusative".

[The Rebel Alliances]

Of what you listed. I would learn French. Russian a close second.

Of what you have not listed. I would learn....Afrikaans or Swahili. Just cause.

I am actually studying Chinese.

[Vazdania]

Of what you listed. I would learn French. Russian a close second.

Of what you have not listed. I would learn....Afrikaans or Swahili. Just cause.

I am actually studying Chinese.

good luck with that.....

[Firmador]

Of what you listed. I would learn French. Russian a close second.

Of what you have not listed. I would learn....Afrikaans or Swahili. Just cause.

I am actually studying Chinese.

Best of luck, Chinese, from what I heard, is roughhhhhhhhh.

You posting or should I post first (I may take a while, not feeling it today to be frank)

[Fulflood]

I'm personally a little peeved about your constant slurs and objectification of women in the OP, and the fact that you're considering languages based on your perceived attractiveness of stereotypical 'bitches' from those nations.

Perceived?

Yes, perceived. Contrary to popular belief, not everyone finds blonde, big-breasted women to be the pinnacle of attractiveness.

Faces are made from the gene pool, different countries have different, average, characteristics.

When you have countries as big and as varied as France and Germany, the distinction is meaningless.

Do you want me to post the World's Map of average cup size? Is it really a sin to want to go somewhere that has something I like better? Wine, the laws, the landscape, what makes going to it over a women, on top of the other benefits, so awful? I'm a guy, I objectify. Women objectify, they constantly judge each other subconsciously and consciously based on their bodies.

By all means objectify, but don't expect it to get you anywhere past a sub-par night with a drunken, insecure young woman.
And does that have any relevance to your choice of language? Barely.