Fast Food Workers Stage Strike, Demand Higher Minimal Wage.

[Frisivisia]

That's clearly not a racist slant you're putting, and let's pretend that the most inexpensive comestibles typically affordable for the working poor aren't processed food products that are high in healthy substances like salt, sugar and fat.



Because clearly fast food workers should be prepared to endure harsh physical conditions and fight or possibly die for their country.

Also, unless you're really fucking up, a Private is open to promotion and an increase in pay with a much better chance than a typical fast food worker has of advancing his or her wages.

And obviously the Army is suffering from a malnutrition epidemic.

Oh, did I just see a race card being pulled? Tell me how the photo is racist? She chose to be fat, anybody that has her BMI is unattractive, I don't care what color of skin he/she has.

I had a very frugal diet and it was also very healthy. Turkey/chicken, oatmeal, onions, some milk, some OJ, some eggs, bananas, beans, rice, and tomatoes. My diet was low fat and cheap. I hate when liberals say eating healthy is expensive. My diet was a bit boring, I was limited and skipped many healthy foods I wanted due to price (such as asparagus, berries, and healthy dried cereals) but many other healthy foods are cheap.

Price per pound, junk food is often expensive. Potato chips and pork rinds are tasty but the price per pound is high and a reason I don't eat them. Soda has no nutrition benefits so I considered it wasteful spending and drank cheap coffee or cheap tea (1 penny per bag) instead. Sugary cereals are also high in price/pound. Fast food is also not cheap. I can buy 5 pounds of oats for a cheaper price than 1 fast food meal. The 5 pounds of oats will make many breakfast meals.

Fast food workers should not be paid more than soldiers. They are asking to be paid more which seems unfair.

I left the army at a E-4 rank. The army paid around $1600-1700 a month for that rank when I left. It paid $500 per month bonus if you were in Iraq though. The army had a 0630-1700 day and many days we had 2 hour GI parties from 1800-1900 or 2000. I suppose if I don't count meal breaks as work time and ignore time deployed (since most of my time there I was not deployed and my unit did not have many field exercises) we can say that pay was $10 per hour at my highest rank. This is still way less than what the fast food workers are asking for.

That lady eats too much food. She needs to learn to eat less food. Why is it so hard to do something LESS?! She needs to stop eating fries and drinking soda at work, the McDonald's I worked at gave free soda to workers. They also gave free water. She can drink water instead. She can grab carrots (also very cheap) and oatmeal for her meals. Not hard.

She can also work at McDonald's in Indianapolis instead of NYC and stretch her money further. She chooses to live in an overpriced city, don't feel sorry for her.

Bricks of text about how people who can only afford cheap, shitty food should just eat less and move even though they don't have the means to.

[Freiheit Reich]

Oh, did I just see a race card being pulled? Tell me how the photo is racist? She chose to be fat, anybody that has her BMI is unattractive, I don't care what color of skin he/she has.

I had a very frugal diet and it was also very healthy. Turkey/chicken, oatmeal, onions, some milk, some OJ, some eggs, bananas, beans, rice, and tomatoes. My diet was low fat and cheap. I hate when liberals say eating healthy is expensive. My diet was a bit boring, I was limited and skipped many healthy foods I wanted due to price (such as asparagus, berries, and healthy dried cereals) but many other healthy foods are cheap.

Price per pound, junk food is often expensive. Potato chips and pork rinds are tasty but the price per pound is high and a reason I don't eat them. Soda has no nutrition benefits so I considered it wasteful spending and drank cheap coffee or cheap tea (1 penny per bag) instead. Sugary cereals are also high in price/pound. Fast food is also not cheap. I can buy 5 pounds of oats for a cheaper price than 1 fast food meal. The 5 pounds of oats will make many breakfast meals.

Fast food workers should not be paid more than soldiers. They are asking to be paid more which seems unfair.

I left the army at a E-4 rank. The army paid around $1600-1700 a month for that rank when I left. It paid $500 per month bonus if you were in Iraq though. The army had a 0630-1700 day and many days we had 2 hour GI parties from 1800-1900 or 2000. I suppose if I don't count meal breaks as work time and ignore time deployed (since most of my time there I was not deployed and my unit did not have many field exercises) we can say that pay was $10 per hour at my highest rank. This is still way less than what the fast food workers are asking for.

That lady eats too much food. She needs to learn to eat less food. Why is it so hard to do something LESS?! She needs to stop eating fries and drinking soda at work, the McDonald's I worked at gave free soda to workers. They also gave free water. She can drink water instead. She can grab carrots (also very cheap) and oatmeal for her meals. Not hard.

She can also work at McDonald's in Indianapolis instead of NYC and stretch her money further. She chooses to live in an overpriced city, don't feel sorry for her.

Bricks of text about how people who can only afford cheap, shitty food should just eat less and move even though they don't have the means to.

Why not? I could survive on a budget of less than $800 a month where I lived.

Apartment + utilities=$400
Food=$100
Car (optional)=$150
Extra (hygiene, clothes, OTC medicine)=$50

OK-this is $700 a month in Indiana. You can drop it to $350 a month y sharing the apartment and not using a car. We will say $400-500 a month is very possible by riding a bike to work and sharing an apartment.

Minimum wage after taxes=$6 an hour. Work 30 hours a weekX6X4= $720 a month. I am lowballing the potential work salary because fast food places give less hours. Taking 2 fast food jobs makes earning potential go up accordingly. Working hard and becoming a manager is another option (and improves resume as well).

$250 a month shared housing is available, look on craigslist in Indianapolis and South Bend (among many places) for more info.

She can afford my diet, it is not hard. If you want advice on how to eat healthy and cheap than telegram me for more info.

[Alien Space Bats]

I made around $6-7 per hour in the army (we were salary but when I added the extra hours working, included the forced GI cleaning parties and mandatory PT-physical training, the pay per hour is bad).

If you got sick, did the Army take care of your medical bills?

Does McDonald's pay for a worker's college education after just six years woRTH of service?

Again, your comparison is ridiculous. Try comparing fast food with office work, or for that matter pretty much everything else in civilan life.

Hell, by the standards you're spelling out, everyone from workers on an oil rig to construction workers as "fat and lazy". So shoiuld we pass a "maximum wage law" that mandates that all civilian wages must be less that what an E-1 earns in the U.S. Army?

[Freiheit Reich]

I made around $6-7 per hour in the army (we were salary but when I added the extra hours working, included the forced GI cleaning parties and mandatory PT-physical training, the pay per hour is bad).

If you got sick, did the Army take care of your medical bills?

Does McDonald's pay for a worker's college education after just six years woRTH of service?

Again, your comparison is ridiculous. Try comparing fast food with office work, or for that matter pretty much everything else in civilan life.

Hell, by the standards you're spelling out, everyone from workers on an oil rig to construction workers as "fat and lazy". So shoiuld we pass a "maximum wage law" that mandates that all civilian wages must be less that what an E-1 earns in the U.S. Army?

My army job was not the hardest and there are civilian jobs that are more dangerous and harder than mine. However, my job was more stressful than flipping burgers at McDonald's. I did both jobs so I think it is fair for me to compare the 2. Besides, if the free market thinks flipping burgers is worth more than being a solider than companies will voluntarily raise wages to $15 an hour or even higher. How many nurses are making $7-8 an hour? How many pilots are making $7-8 an hour? The free market set the wages for both of those jobs, why not let the free market set the wage for fast food workers?

Many of my co-workers were either high school students or foreigners from Latin America (mostly Mexico). The foreign workers came to the USA to work in fast food. I never heard them gripe about bad wages. They traveled far for those jobs. I give them more credit than the lazy American born workers that don't appreciate their opportunities. I was thankful McDonald's hired me and never felt my wages were unfair ($5.50 per hour starting then). They gave me my first job and helped me improve my very low self-confidence and helped teach me teamwork. I have mostly good memories from that job. Too bad many other workers are ungrateful.

McDonald's has its own university and provides scholarships so in some cases they do help pay for education:

http://www.aboutmcdonalds.com/mcd/corpo ... rsity.html

http://www.mcdonalds.com/us/en/careers/ ... ation.html

If fast food is so bad than why not quit? I found a better job (at a call center) after the military and with only a high school education at that time.

I only went to the doctor for injuries 3 times in the army and both times I really didn't need to go but was forced to by leaders. Once I was burned on the leg thanks to a careless roommate, once for a check up after a van accident, and once due to a very swollen lip due to sunburn. I never had a case of needed medical care during these times, it was just a case of leaders being cautious (which I understand). The only army medical care that benefitted me was dental cleanings which only cost $25 at USI (other universities have similar low costs). I stay healthy, my family has good genes and I eat fairly healthy.

[Geilinor]

Bricks of text about how people who can only afford cheap, shitty food should just eat less and move even though they don't have the means to.

Why not? I could survive on a budget of less than $800 a month where I lived.

Apartment + utilities=$400
Food=$100
Car (optional)=$150
Extra (hygiene, clothes, OTC medicine)=$50

OK-this is $700 a month in Indiana. You can drop it to $350 a month y sharing the apartment and not using a car. We will say $400-500 a month is very possible by riding a bike to work and sharing an apartment.

Minimum wage after taxes=$6 an hour. Work 30 hours a weekX6X4= $720 a month. I am lowballing the potential work salary because fast food places give less hours. Taking 2 fast food jobs makes earning potential go up accordingly. Working hard and becoming a manager is another option (and improves resume as well).

$250 a month shared housing is available, look on craigslist in Indianapolis and South Bend (among many places) for more info.

She can afford my diet, it is not hard. If you want advice on how to eat healthy and cheap than telegram me for more info.

Guess what, Freiheit, not everywhere is as cheap as where you live. An apartment+utilities where I am? $1000/month. The minimum wage is $9.19 an hour, but still.

[Geilinor]

If you got sick, did the Army take care of your medical bills?

Does McDonald's pay for a worker's college education after just six years woRTH of service?

Again, your comparison is ridiculous. Try comparing fast food with office work, or for that matter pretty much everything else in civilan life.

Hell, by the standards you're spelling out, everyone from workers on an oil rig to construction workers as "fat and lazy". So shoiuld we pass a "maximum wage law" that mandates that all civilian wages must be less that what an E-1 earns in the U.S. Army?

My army job was not the hardest and there are civilian jobs that are more dangerous and harder than mine. However, my job was more stressful than flipping burgers at McDonald's. I did both jobs so I think it is fair for me to compare the 2. Besides, if the free market thinks flipping burgers is worth more than being a solider than companies will voluntarily raise wages to $15 an hour or even higher. How many nurses are making $7-8 an hour? How many pilots are making $7-8 an hour? The free market set the wages for both of those jobs, why not let the free market set the wage for fast food workers?

Many of my co-workers were either high school students or foreigners from Latin America (mostly Mexico). The foreign workers came to the USA to work in fast food. I never heard them gripe about bad wages. They traveled far for those jobs. I give them more credit than the lazy American born workers that don't appreciate their opportunities. I was thankful McDonald's hired me and never felt my wages were unfair ($5.50 per hour starting then). They gave me my first job and helped me improve my very low self-confidence and helped teach me teamwork. I have mostly good memories from that job. Too bad many other workers are ungrateful.

McDonald's has its own university and provides scholarships so in some cases they do help pay for education:

http://www.aboutmcdonalds.com/mcd/corpo ... rsity.html

http://www.mcdonalds.com/us/en/careers/ ... ation.html

If fast food is so bad than why not quit? I found a better job (at a call center) after the military and with only a high school education at that time.

The labor market isn't some kind of magical world where you can find the perfect job. People work in fast food when they can't find anything better. You might have found a better job, but not everyone does. Also, if you think the military pays too little, start a petition or something.

[Geilinor]

If you got sick, did the Army take care of your medical bills?

Does McDonald's pay for a worker's college education after just six years woRTH of service?

Again, your comparison is ridiculous. Try comparing fast food with office work, or for that matter pretty much everything else in civilan life.

Hell, by the standards you're spelling out, everyone from workers on an oil rig to construction workers as "fat and lazy". So shoiuld we pass a "maximum wage law" that mandates that all civilian wages must be less that what an E-1 earns in the U.S. Army?

my family has good genes

Not everyone is as lucky as you. You really need a lesson in understanding other people.

[Freiheit Reich]

Why not? I could survive on a budget of less than $800 a month where I lived.

Apartment + utilities=$400
Food=$100
Car (optional)=$150
Extra (hygiene, clothes, OTC medicine)=$50

OK-this is $700 a month in Indiana. You can drop it to $350 a month y sharing the apartment and not using a car. We will say $400-500 a month is very possible by riding a bike to work and sharing an apartment.

Minimum wage after taxes=$6 an hour. Work 30 hours a weekX6X4= $720 a month. I am lowballing the potential work salary because fast food places give less hours. Taking 2 fast food jobs makes earning potential go up accordingly. Working hard and becoming a manager is another option (and improves resume as well).

$250 a month shared housing is available, look on craigslist in Indianapolis and South Bend (among many places) for more info.

She can afford my diet, it is not hard. If you want advice on how to eat healthy and cheap than telegram me for more info.

Guess what, Freiheit, not everywhere is as cheap as where you live. An apartment+utilities where I am? $1000/month. The minimum wage is $9.19 an hour, but still.

Then move. Indiana has low state taxes and cheap cost of living and they are ranked better than several states in various quality of life surveys. Not my favorite state but WAY ahead of Georgia and Florida (just my opinion though).

Oklahoma, Kansas, Missouri, Texas (except Austin), and Nebraska could be considered as well.

[Wintersun]

Seriously, I learned this when I was, like 13 and being taught about unions and industrial action. How are so many people not getting it?

I don't recall unions ever being discussed in my history classes.

They were briefly mentioned in my 9th grade history class, during the Robber Barons section. They were put in a bad light though so you didn't miss much. It was mostly "workers get exploited, workers strike, workers are clearly ebil!"

[Freiheit Reich]

I don't recall unions ever being discussed in my history classes.

They were briefly mentioned in my 9th grade history class, during the Robber Barons section. They were put in a bad light though so you didn't miss much. It was mostly "workers get exploited, workers strike, workers are clearly ebil!"

Unions were discussed a lot in my history class and usually in positive terms. I wish the textbook mentioned that the pro-union workers had the right to quit their job and find another one if they hated their 60 hours a week jobs with unsafe working conditions. Also they should have mentioned that parents chose to send their children to work, the parents need to be criticized, not the companies that used child labor. The textbook omitted a few key details in the union sections.

[Fartsniffage]

They were briefly mentioned in my 9th grade history class, during the Robber Barons section. They were put in a bad light though so you didn't miss much. It was mostly "workers get exploited, workers strike, workers are clearly ebil!"

Unions were discussed a lot in my history class and usually in positive terms. I wish the textbook mentioned that the pro-union workers had the right to quit their job and find another one if they hated their 60 hours a week jobs with unsafe working conditions. Also they should have mentioned that parents chose to send their children to work, the parents need to be criticized, not the companies that used child labor. The textbook omitted a few key details in the union sections.

Just like people who oppose unions have the right to quit the country that allows them. Right?

[Gauthier]

Guess what, Freiheit, not everywhere is as cheap as where you live. An apartment+utilities where I am? $1000/month. The minimum wage is $9.19 an hour, but still.

Then move. Indiana has low state taxes and cheap cost of living and they are ranked better than several states in various quality of life surveys. Not my favorite state but WAY ahead of Georgia and Florida (just my opinion though).

Oklahoma, Kansas, Missouri, Texas (except Austin), and Nebraska could be considered as well.

And here is the crux of your fallacy. You think moving is quick and cheap. Let's pretend that the costs of transportation, finding a place to stay in, and paying utilities as well as groceries are nonexistent. And let's pretend that there's a perfect job opening in the new state that pays more than the previous one.

Here's a tip: Monopoly is not an accurate documentary on moving to a new place.

[Geilinor]

Then move. Indiana has low state taxes and cheap cost of living and they are ranked better than several states in various quality of life surveys. Not my favorite state but WAY ahead of Georgia and Florida (just my opinion though).

Oklahoma, Kansas, Missouri, Texas (except Austin), and Nebraska could be considered as well.

And here is the crux of your fallacy. You think moving is quick and cheap. Let's pretend that the costs of transportation, finding a place to stay in, and paying utilities as well as groceries are nonexistent. And let's pretend that there's a perfect job opening in the new state that pays more than the previous one.

I wonder how dodgy his response will be.

[Geilinor]

Guess what, Freiheit, not everywhere is as cheap as where you live. An apartment+utilities where I am? $1000/month. The minimum wage is $9.19 an hour, but still.

Then move. Indiana has low state taxes and cheap cost of living and they are ranked better than several states in various quality of life surveys. Not my favorite state but WAY ahead of Georgia and Florida (just my opinion though).

Oklahoma, Kansas, Missouri, Texas (except Austin), and Nebraska could be considered as well.

I'm not saying I dislike the place where I live, I'm just pointing out that not everywhere is dirt cheap. Do you actually have a more constructive response than, "Everyone should just move to Indiana, Oklahoma, Kansas, Missouri, Texas, Nebraska, Georgia, or Florida"?

[Freiheit Reich]

Then move. Indiana has low state taxes and cheap cost of living and they are ranked better than several states in various quality of life surveys. Not my favorite state but WAY ahead of Georgia and Florida (just my opinion though).

Oklahoma, Kansas, Missouri, Texas (except Austin), and Nebraska could be considered as well.

And here is the crux of your fallacy. You think moving is quick and cheap. Let's pretend that the costs of transportation, finding a place to stay in, and paying utilities as well as groceries are nonexistent. And let's pretend that there's a perfect job opening in the new state that pays more than the previous one.

Here's a tip: Monopoly is not an accurate documentary on moving to a new place.

Bus ticket is at most $200 (cheaper if you buy 2 weeks in advance)

You can get a roommate in advance (arranging a few interviews is a better idea) via the internet (which is often free at libraries). They may ask for 1st month's rent upfront so plan on $300-400

Grocery costs are the same regardless if you stay or move (actually the states I listed have low prices on many groceries compared to many states)

Job opening is tough, plan on 2 months of money to be safe

$200 (bus) +600 (2 months rent)+ 300 (various)= $1,100

You can save up this money by cutting rental costs (shared housing), working more hours (2nd job), and cutting out luxuries.

This is a high figure, you can make it cheaper though. Some cities have homeless shelters and they will let you stay if you are serious about finding a job. This would suck but they provide a bed and a shower and a place to keep your stuff which is all you really need. They will likely even give you tips on finding work. If you are willing to take any legal job, you should be able to find something fairly quickly. Once you have a job you can start saving money and quit once you find something better.

[Alien Space Bats]

Fast food workers should not be paid more than soldiers. They are asking to be paid more which seems unfair.

Why is it fair that office workers earn more than soldiers? Why is it fair that construction workers earn more than soldiers? Why is it fair that rock stars or professional atheletes earn more than soldiers? Why is it fair that stockbrokers or venture capitalists earn more than soliders? Maybe we should cap everybody's wages at $4-5/hr, so that soldiers earn more than anybody else, and thereby get the respect they deserve?

The thing is, we don't pay people what they deserve; we pay them what they can command in the marketplace, and if fast food workers can manage to force the industry to pay them $15/hr through industrial action, well, more power to them.

She can also work at McDonald's in Indianapolis instead of NYC and stretch her money further. She chooses to live in an overpriced city, don't feel sorry for her.

So you're essentially saying that NYC can't afford to have any fast food outlets, right?

PROTIP: It's one of the most expensive cities in America; if it has to pay fast food workers more to work there, then that wouldn't be out of line with everything else in NYC, now would it?

[Alien Space Bats]

Besides, if the free market thinks flipping burgers is worth more than being a solider than companies will voluntarily workers will force companies to raise wages to $15 an hour or even higher.

Fixed it for you, 'cause this is how markets work. The Free Market Fairy doesn't just come along, wave her magic wand, and grant peple higher wages; they have to fight for them.

Many of my co-workers were either high school students or foreigners from Latin America (mostly Mexico). The foreign workers came to the USA to work in fast food. I never heard them gripe about bad wages. They traveled far for those jobs. I give them more credit than the lazy American born workers that don't appreciate their opportunities. I was thankful McDonald's hired me and never felt my wages were unfair ($5.50 per hour starting then). They gave me my first job and helped me improve my very low self-confidence and helped teach me teamwork. I have mostly good memories from that job. Too bad many other workers are ungrateful.

So you worked there between 1997-2007, which means you have no appreciation for what industry conditions are like since the Crash of 1008.

McDonald's and other fast food outlets grew through the recession, while other husinesses laid off workers. Whatever memory you may have of the work force at places like McDonald's is therefore no longer relevant, since people have been forced to accept whatever job they can find in recent years as their unemployment benefits have run out.

The median age of the fast worker in America is 28 years old; the mean (average) age is 29.5. You can try all you want to depict fast food workers as teens, immigrants, and "losers", unworthy of a living wage or any opportunity to get ahead in life; but economic reality says otherwise.

And besides: Attempts to assert that a person's wage should reflect their moral worth are both insulting and idiotic. Economic worth and human value are two entirely different things.

McDonald's has its own university and provides scholarships so in some cases they do help pay for education:

http://www.aboutmcdonalds.com/mcd/corpo ... rsity.html

http://www.mcdonalds.com/us/en/careers/ ... ation.html

Becasuse McDonal's "Hamburger University" is an accredited 4-year college, and a $2,500 scholarship will pay for your entire education, from freshman to senior. Right.

<pause>

Not. Sorry.

[Alien Space Bats]

Bus ticket is at most $200 (cheaper if you buy 2 weeks in advance)

You can get a roommate in advance (arranging a few interviews is a better idea) via the internet (which is often free at libraries). They may ask for 1st month's rent upfront so plan on $300-400

Grocery costs are the same regardless if you stay or move (actually the states I listed have low prices on many groceries compared to many states)

Job opening is tough, plan on 2 months of money to be safe

$200 (bus) +600 (2 months rent)+ 300 (various)= $1,100

You can save up this money by cutting rental costs (shared housing), working more hours (2nd job), and cutting out luxuries.

This is a high figure, you can make it cheaper though. Some cities have homeless shelters and they will let you stay if you are serious about finding a job. This would suck but they provide a bed and a shower and a place to keep your stuff which is all you really need. They will likely even give you tips on finding work. If you are willing to take any legal job, you should be able to find something fairly quickly. Once you have a job you can start saving money and quit once you find something better.

FUN FACT: Only teenagers and young 20-somethings ever lose their jobs. Once you have a family, you're set for life and never need to move again.

<nods>

[Greed and Death]

Honestly in the cities they are stirking in they need a higher pay.

[Greed and Death]

Bus ticket is at most $200 (cheaper if you buy 2 weeks in advance)

You can get a roommate in advance (arranging a few interviews is a better idea) via the internet (which is often free at libraries). They may ask for 1st month's rent upfront so plan on $300-400

Grocery costs are the same regardless if you stay or move (actually the states I listed have low prices on many groceries compared to many states)

Job opening is tough, plan on 2 months of money to be safe

$200 (bus) +600 (2 months rent)+ 300 (various)= $1,100

You can save up this money by cutting rental costs (shared housing), working more hours (2nd job), and cutting out luxuries.

This is a high figure, you can make it cheaper though. Some cities have homeless shelters and they will let you stay if you are serious about finding a job. This would suck but they provide a bed and a shower and a place to keep your stuff which is all you really need. They will likely even give you tips on finding work. If you are willing to take any legal job, you should be able to find something fairly quickly. Once you have a job you can start saving money and quit once you find something better.

FUN FACT: Only teenagers and young 20-somethings ever lose their jobs. Once you have a family, you're set for life and never need to move again.

<nods>

Fast food jobs are meant for teenagers early 20 somethings, parents should really only look to them as an in between jobs type deal.

[Vitaphone Racing]

FUN FACT: Only teenagers and young 20-somethings ever lose their jobs. Once you have a family, you're set for life and never need to move again.

<nods>

Fast food jobs are meant for teenagers early 20 somethings, parents should really only look to them as an in between jobs type deal.

Plenty of parents work fast food jobs because of the hours they work.

[Freiheit Reich]

Fast food workers should not be paid more than soldiers. They are asking to be paid more which seems unfair.

Why is it fair that office workers earn more than soldiers? Why is it fair that construction workers earn more than soldiers? Why is it fair that rock stars or professional atheletes earn more than soldiers? Why is it fair that stockbrokers or venture capitalists earn more than soliders? Maybe we should cap everybody's wages at $4-5/hr, so that soldiers earn more than anybody else, and thereby get the respect they deserve?

The thing is, we don't pay people what they deserve; we pay them what they can command in the marketplace, and if fast food workers can manage to force the industry to pay them $15/hr through industrial action, well, more power to them.

She can also work at McDonald's in Indianapolis instead of NYC and stretch her money further. She chooses to live in an overpriced city, don't feel sorry for her.

So you're essentially saying that NYC can't afford to have any fast food outlets, right?

PROTIP: It's one of the most expensive cities in America; if it has to pay fast food workers more to work there, then that wouldn't be out of line with everything else in NYC, now would it?

OK, I should have said, they have the right to ask for more money and bosses have the right to laugh in their face and tell them 'no, if you don't like your wages than go elsewhere.'

I also said the free market should decide the wages for non-govt. jobs. I said pilots and nurses make more than minimum wage which means the free market decided their wages. They are being paid fairly, so are movie stars and rock musicians.

NYC can afford fast food places, if the workers refuse to work for $7 an hour than the places will either close down or raise wages to attract workers. If workers are willing to take $7 an hour than the wages are fair.

How many hospitals can hire qualified nurses at $7 an hour? They would probably love to pay that but they know that qualified nurses won't accept these wages. This is why they have to pay more. Simple supply and demand economics.

Slavery is illegal in the USA. I never feel sorry for people choosing to work for low wages because they are obviously getting paid fairly. If they hate their wages than they can get a different job. If they can't get a different job than they should be grateful for the job they had. I was grateful for my $5.50 an hour McDonald's job, why can't they have the same attitude?

[Greed and Death]

Fast food jobs are meant for teenagers early 20 somethings, parents should really only look to them as an in between jobs type deal.

Plenty of parents work fast food jobs because of the hours they work.

If they choose that lifestyle then I shall play the worlds smallest violin for them.

[Freiheit Reich]

Fast food jobs are meant for teenagers early 20 somethings, parents should really only look to them as an in between jobs type deal.

Plenty of parents work fast food jobs because of the hours they work.

Fast food has opportunities for those that work hard. You can move up the ranks to become a manager. Of course, the pay in this sector is lower than many other sectors but there are opportunities. Sadly, many Americans hate the concept of EARNING promotions and higher pay and prefer to get higher pay by the kindness of Big Brother Government.

http://www.mcdonalds.com/us/en/careers/ ... _here.html

"Nearly 50% of corporate restaurant managers started as crew."

"Maybe it’s a way to buy that first car. It could be a way to support yourself in college. Or it might be the way you enter the corporate world. Whatever you’re looking for, McDonald’s can help you make your own way, with challenging careers, quality benefits and the best opportunities around."

[Arkinesia]

Scrap the minimum wage, and allow all workers to freely unionize.

It's the only way.