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Postby Genivaria » Sun Aug 04, 2013 12:27 pm

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Genivaria wrote:Yeaaah I can see how that would break someone's support.
I'm not the most patriotic person myself and that pissed me off beyond belief.


I just returned back to the Democrats. Not quite as liberal as I once was. But a Democrat nonetheless.

Ah. Yeah the GOP has done a real good job at alienating their former base.
Hopefully the GOP will be forced to realign itself with reality.

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Postby Divided America » Sun Aug 04, 2013 12:28 pm

And Thats what happens when you dont go to school
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Postby Imperializt Russia » Sun Aug 04, 2013 12:31 pm

Divided America wrote:And Thats what happens when you dont go to school

Oh wow, insightful.

I wonder if you realise how hilariously wrong you are?
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Postby Gauthier » Sun Aug 04, 2013 12:32 pm

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Divided America wrote:And Thats what happens when you dont go to school

Oh wow, insightful.

I wonder if you realise how hilariously wrong you are?


Clearly all those graduates working in fast food joints with student loan debts didn't go to school. *nod*
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Postby Yes Im Biop » Sun Aug 04, 2013 12:33 pm

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The United Soviet Socialist Republic wrote:Demanding your wage doubled is fucking outrageous behavior.


Can you live on $7.35 an hour?


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Postby Zavea » Sun Aug 04, 2013 12:33 pm

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Divided America wrote:And Thats what happens when you dont go to school

Oh wow, insightful.

I wonder if you realise how hilariously wrong you are?


well, that's what happens when you don't go to school
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Postby Imperializt Russia » Sun Aug 04, 2013 12:34 pm

Gauthier wrote:
Imperializt Russia wrote:Oh wow, insightful.

I wonder if you realise how hilariously wrong you are?


Clearly all those graduates working in fast food joints with student loan debts didn't go to school. *nod*

Or the undergrads funding next semester's schooling.
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Postby Mike the Progressive » Sun Aug 04, 2013 12:34 pm

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Divided America wrote:And Thats what happens when you dont go to school

Oh wow, insightful.

I wonder if you realise how hilariously wrong you are?


Should it have been rephrased to "what happens when you go to school, but do a really shity job/what happens if you actually make it to college, but get a liberal arts degree?"

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Postby Imperializt Russia » Sun Aug 04, 2013 12:35 pm

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Imperializt Russia wrote:Oh wow, insightful.

I wonder if you realise how hilariously wrong you are?


Should it have been rephrased to "what happens when you go to school, but do a really shity job/what happens if you actually make it to college, but get a liberal arts degree?"

There's simply nothing correct about the inference on any level.
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Postby Aequalitia » Sun Aug 04, 2013 12:38 pm

Divided America wrote:And Thats what happens when you dont go to school

That's not a argument, but just some silly words.

But if I read back to the OP page, then 15 dollars per hour is just high, too high to be honest. That means that if there work 8 hours and that 22 workdays, then there month wage is 2640 dollars. That is a lot more then what I earn! I can't even pay it to life on my own and some people there are just mad but ask a ridiculous wage per hour.

Serious, not to be egoistic but I would deserve then also a better wage rate per hour :eyebrow:
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Postby Yes Im Biop » Sun Aug 04, 2013 12:41 pm

Rhodesi wrote:How much do McDonalds workers actually to deserve this pay rise.


To deal with the dick's that harass cashieres ? About 50 or 70 bucks an hour why?
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Postby Mike the Progressive » Sun Aug 04, 2013 12:42 pm

Imperializt Russia wrote:
Mike the Progressive wrote:
Should it have been rephrased to "what happens when you go to school, but do a really shity job/what happens if you actually make it to college, but get a liberal arts degree?"

There's simply nothing correct about the inference on any level.


Sure there is. I mean can you find a sauce saying that a majority fast-food workers were actually Rhodes scholars, but they just couldn't afford an airline ticket to the UK?

Chances are most fast food worker's highest degree is a high school diploma or a GED. I'm not trying to belittle people who have those, that's all my mother has, and my grandparents didn't have either one, but that's just how it is.

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Postby Ceannairceach » Sun Aug 04, 2013 12:43 pm

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Imperializt Russia wrote:There's simply nothing correct about the inference on any level.


Sure there is. I mean can you find a sauce saying that a majority fast-food workers were actually Rhodes scholars, but they just couldn't afford an airline ticket to the UK?

Chances are most fast food worker's highest degree is a high school diploma or a GED. I'm not trying to belittle people who have those, that's all my mother has, and my grandparents didn't have either one, but that's just how it is.

Sadly, you're probably right. The current economic climate is against those without higher education; Sadly, this means that those with limited education will not get the greatest of jobs.

That, of course, doesn't mean that they don't deserve a fair shake.

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Postby Imperializt Russia » Sun Aug 04, 2013 12:44 pm

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Imperializt Russia wrote:There's simply nothing correct about the inference on any level.


Sure there is. I mean can you find a sauce saying that a majority fast-food workers were actually Rhodes scholars, but they just couldn't afford an airline ticket to the UK?

Chances are most fast food worker's highest degree is a high school diploma or a GED. I'm not trying to belittle people who have those, that's all my mother has, and my grandparents didn't have either one, but that's just how it is.

Find me a source saying that undergraduates in education never go into low-paid service work, such as fast food restaurants.
Because that's the opposite of my inference.
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Postby Grosse Deutscheland » Sun Aug 04, 2013 12:44 pm

No fast food? This is cause for celebration!
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Postby Agritum » Sun Aug 04, 2013 12:45 pm

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Genivaria wrote:Really? Not even the rare breed of Sane Republican?
Well there goes my mental image of you being Will Mcavoy.


I was one, but I have to say that I lost faith in the GOP when during a primary debate in 2012, a gay soldier asked a question about the DADT repeal, the audience booed, and not one Republican candidate up there said "hey, we may not like this guy's sexuality, but we should respect the fact that he is in Iraq and willing to die for our freedoms."

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Postby Mike the Progressive » Sun Aug 04, 2013 12:48 pm

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Sure there is. I mean can you find a sauce saying that a majority fast-food workers were actually Rhodes scholars, but they just couldn't afford an airline ticket to the UK?

Chances are most fast food worker's highest degree is a high school diploma or a GED. I'm not trying to belittle people who have those, that's all my mother has, and my grandparents didn't have either one, but that's just how it is.

Sadly, you're probably right. The current economic climate is against those without higher education; Sadly, this means that those with limited education will not get the greatest of jobs.

That, of course, doesn't mean that they don't deserve a fair shake.


I recall reading an article in Times or Newsweek talking about how in a couple of decades, a BA/BS won't even be enough for many jobs. How you'll need a master's degree. Or at least a larger share of jobs will require/expect one.

And I never said otherwise. I've just always been very skeptical about higher minimum wages making the quality of life better.

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Postby Ifreann » Sun Aug 04, 2013 12:48 pm

Freiheit Reich wrote:Besides, if the free market thinks flipping burgers is worth more than being a solider than companies will voluntarily raise wages to $15 an hour or even higher. How many nurses are making $7-8 an hour? How many pilots are making $7-8 an hour? The free market set the wages for both of those jobs, why not let the free market set the wage for fast food workers?

I love how you think that unions are separate from the free market in some way. These workers think their labour is worth more than they are currently being paid. They are negotiating, through their representatives, to get better conditions. To strengthen their position they're withdrawing their labour. Pure capitalism, baby. People selling or refusing to sell something they have that someone else wants.
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Postby Christian Democrats » Sun Aug 04, 2013 12:48 pm

$15 per hour is too high for a fast food worker

$15 x 40 hours = $600 per week
$600 x 52 weeks = $31,200 per year

All people -- $31,200 = 39th percentile of income
Singles -- $31,200 = 69th percentile of income
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Postby Mike the Progressive » Sun Aug 04, 2013 12:49 pm

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Mike the Progressive wrote:
Sure there is. I mean can you find a sauce saying that a majority fast-food workers were actually Rhodes scholars, but they just couldn't afford an airline ticket to the UK?

Chances are most fast food worker's highest degree is a high school diploma or a GED. I'm not trying to belittle people who have those, that's all my mother has, and my grandparents didn't have either one, but that's just how it is.

Find me a source saying that undergraduates in education never go into low-paid service work, such as fast food restaurants.
Because that's the opposite of my inference.


You did see the part where I said "make it to college, but get a liberal arts degree" right?

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Postby Ceannairceach » Sun Aug 04, 2013 12:49 pm

Mike the Progressive wrote:
Ceannairceach wrote:Sadly, you're probably right. The current economic climate is against those without higher education; Sadly, this means that those with limited education will not get the greatest of jobs.

That, of course, doesn't mean that they don't deserve a fair shake.


I recall reading an article in Times or Newsweek talking about how in a couple of decades, a BA/BS won't even be enough for many jobs. How you'll need a master's degree. Or at least a larger share of jobs will require/expect one.

And I never said otherwise. I've just always been very skeptical about higher minimum wages making the quality of life better.

I know you didn't. I'm just clarifying.

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Postby Mike the Progressive » Sun Aug 04, 2013 12:49 pm

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Mike the Progressive wrote:
I recall reading an article in Times or Newsweek talking about how in a couple of decades, a BA/BS won't even be enough for many jobs. How you'll need a master's degree. Or at least a larger share of jobs will require/expect one.

And I never said otherwise. I've just always been very skeptical about higher minimum wages making the quality of life better.

I know you didn't. I'm just clarifying.


Ah, ok :)

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Postby Ifreann » Sun Aug 04, 2013 12:50 pm

Christian Democrats wrote:$15 per hour is too high for a fast food worker

$15 x 40 hours = $600 per week
$600 x 52 weeks = $31,200 per year

All people -- $31,200 = 39th percentile of income
Singles -- $31,200 = 69th percentile of income

And how exactly is that too high for a fast food worker?
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Postby Genivaria » Sun Aug 04, 2013 12:52 pm

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Mike the Progressive wrote:
Sure there is. I mean can you find a sauce saying that a majority fast-food workers were actually Rhodes scholars, but they just couldn't afford an airline ticket to the UK?

Chances are most fast food worker's highest degree is a high school diploma or a GED. I'm not trying to belittle people who have those, that's all my mother has, and my grandparents didn't have either one, but that's just how it is.

Sadly, you're probably right. The current economic climate is against those without higher education; Sadly, this means that those with limited education will not get the greatest of jobs.

That, of course, doesn't mean that they don't deserve a fair shake.

I'm trying to join the Army right now to get out of my financial situation but because I was diagnosed as ADHD when I was little (me and every other kid) I have to get a cleared of needing medication.
My mother has been doing her best to stonewall my efforts though.

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Postby Ceannairceach » Sun Aug 04, 2013 12:52 pm

Christian Democrats wrote:$15 per hour is too high for a fast food worker

$15 x 40 hours = $600 per week
$600 x 52 weeks = $31,200 per year

All people -- $31,200 = 39th percentile of income
Singles -- $31,200 = 69th percentile of income

I doubt they actually think they'll get $15. It's probably just a starting point.

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