Stormcloak or Imperial? (Thalmor welcome)

[Fritzergald]

A question asked thousands of times. Personally, I side with the true sons and daughters of skyrim. Here are the rules:

And that wraps up the rules of the forum, have at it.

[Mkuki]

This belongs in Arts & Fiction.

[Fritzergald]

This belongs in Arts & Fiction.

oops. I have someone say that every time. im on a terrible streak.

[Mkuki]

This belongs in Arts & Fiction.

oops. I have someone say that every time. im on a terrible streak.

No problem. I'm sure a mod can move it.

[Fritzergald]

well. that declined quickly.

[Zilam]

Skyrim is for Nerds.erm..NORDS!

[Trotskylvania]

So Nordic Nazis, decadent imperialists, or Elven Nazis.

Some great choices thar.

[Olthar]

I find the Thalmor to be the least objectionable of the three.

[Aldheim]

Those cat people

[Slafstopia]

The An-xileel is firmly sick of your homocentric (as in the genus) bickering.

[Trotskylvania]

I find the Thalmor to be the least objectionable of the three.

How are anti-natalist Elven supremacist Nazis the least objectionable?

[Caninope]

I find the Thalmor to be the least objectionable of the three.

How are anti-natalist Elven supremacist Nazis the least objectionable?

Because they're the most fun.

[Olthar]

I find the Thalmor to be the least objectionable of the three.

How are anti-natalist Elven supremacist Nazis the least objectionable?

Well, all three sides are fill with arrogant, ethnocentric, power-hungry, racist assholes, so none of them win the likability contest. Thus, we have to look at their goals and intentions. The Stormcloaks are trying to fight for independence and self-determinism, which is a noble goal. The Imperials are trying to fight to maintain security and safety throughout the Empire, which is also a noble goal. Meanwhile, the Thalmor are trying to unmake creation, which is probably the most charitable thing anyone in Tamriel has ever done.

[Faith Hope Charity]

Non-racist Stormcloaks FTW (Thalmor are still kill on sight, lol).

[4years]

A faithful son of the empire.


But seriously none of the three are terribly pleasant.

[Soviet Post Punk]

dunmer.

[AETEN II]

I find the Thalmor to be the least objectionable of the three.

The Thalmor are trying to undo Mundus and literally kill everyone as they reclaim their old status as Aedra. When undoing the towers that hold Mundus together, they'd kill off all of the Beast Races and Mankind. They're easily the most evil sonsofabitches in the TES lore.

Also, the Stormcloaks are a Thalmor puppet without even realizing, so not so positive either. The only 'good' faction is the Imperials, especially if Bethesda makes it canon that Mede bit the dust. Hopefully (and the best thing that could happen), would be if the Dragonborn copied Tiber Septim's unification war and united all provinces under the Empire again, and gained the backing of the Daedra (which hate the Altmer for being descendants of the Aedra) and led a massive war to finally kill off the Altmer and permanently save Mundus from their attempts to kill off everyone.

Then find out where in the bloody hell did the Dwemer go and how to obtain their level of technology again in order to technologically advance.

Cause really, Tamriel is in shambles. The Empire's eroded and needs a Dragonborn on the throne again to ensure it works properly. Plus the Dragonborn has access to the spells and abilities to render himself immortal. Hell, upon the slaying of Alduin, he's shown himself to be the current most powerful Dovah, and possibly rally more of the Dovah to his side.

[Olthar]

I find the Thalmor to be the least objectionable of the three.

The Thalmor are trying to undo Mundus and literally kill everyone as they reclaim their old status as Aedra. When undoing the towers that hold Mundus together, they'd kill off all of the Beast Races and Mankind. They're easily the most evil sonsofabitches in the TES lore.

Also, the Stormcloaks are a Thalmor puppet without even realizing, so not so positive either. The only 'good' faction is the Imperials, especially if Bethesda makes it canon that Mede bit the dust. Hopefully (and the best thing that could happen), would be if the Dragonborn copied Tiber Septim's unification war and united all provinces under the Empire again, and gained the backing of the Daedra (which hate the Altmer for being descendants of the Aedra) and lead a massive war to finally kill off the Altmer and permanently save Mundus from their attempts to kill off everyone.

Then find out where in the bloody hell did the Dwemer go and how to obtain their level of technology again in order to technologically advance.

Cause really, Tamriel is in shambles. The Empire's eroded and needs a Dragonborn on the thrown again to ensure it works properly. Plus the Dragonborn has access to the spells and abilities to render himself immortal. Hell, upon the slaying of Alduin, he's shown himself to be the current most powerful Dovah, and possibly rally more of the Dovah to his side.

Sometimes, life is just so horrible that unmaking it is preferable to living it. The world of TES is one of the worst, cruelest fantasy worlds ever devised. Pretty much throughout the entirety of history, everything has sucked for everyone. The elves are right when they declare Lorkhan the worst evil to ever exist. Tamriel is in shambles because it's always in shambles and will always be in shambles because there will never be a strong enough force for good to change it. Not even the gods will make the world a better place. There are two types of gods in TES: The Daedra, who are evil, and the Aedra who flip-flop between evil and apathy. When the kindest deity in existence is one who does nothing, that's a problem. Mundus would be a far better place if it ceased to exist.

[AETEN II]

The Thalmor are trying to undo Mundus and literally kill everyone as they reclaim their old status as Aedra. When undoing the towers that hold Mundus together, they'd kill off all of the Beast Races and Mankind. They're easily the most evil sonsofabitches in the TES lore.

Also, the Stormcloaks are a Thalmor puppet without even realizing, so not so positive either. The only 'good' faction is the Imperials, especially if Bethesda makes it canon that Mede bit the dust. Hopefully (and the best thing that could happen), would be if the Dragonborn copied Tiber Septim's unification war and united all provinces under the Empire again, and gained the backing of the Daedra (which hate the Altmer for being descendants of the Aedra) and lead a massive war to finally kill off the Altmer and permanently save Mundus from their attempts to kill off everyone.

Then find out where in the bloody hell did the Dwemer go and how to obtain their level of technology again in order to technologically advance.

Cause really, Tamriel is in shambles. The Empire's eroded and needs a Dragonborn on the thrown again to ensure it works properly. Plus the Dragonborn has access to the spells and abilities to render himself immortal. Hell, upon the slaying of Alduin, he's shown himself to be the current most powerful Dovah, and possibly rally more of the Dovah to his side.

Sometimes, life is just so horrible that unmaking it is preferable to living it. The world of TES is one of the worst, cruelest fantasy worlds ever devised. Pretty much throughout the entirety of history, everything has sucked for everyone. The elves are right when they declare Lorkhan the worst evil to ever exist. Tamriel is in shambles because it's always in shambles and will always be in shambles because there will never be a strong enough force for good to change it. Not even the gods will make the world a better place. There are two types of gods in TES: The Daedra, who are evil, and the Aedra who flip-flop between evil and apathy. When the kindest deity in existence is one who does nothing, that's a problem. Mundus would be a far better place if it ceased to exist.

Thanks. I haven't laughed that long in a long damn time.

TES is a downright decent place to live. The only reason why it's in shambles is due to the hilarious, unrealistic incompetence of the leaders but does definitely have its brightspots- it just sucks to live in some areas, kinda like real life. Also, Daedra are pretty downright decent in some cases- Hircine out of the gods is pretty reasonable, and becoming a werewolf for garunteed continuation of your soul isn't a half bad deal, even if you have to play the role of prey sometimes- you still respawn when he bags you in his hunting grounds. Sure you've got nasty ones like Molag Bal- however the majority of Daedra are so-so. They're not evil even technically- they're alien extradimensional creatures that don't understand mortal society. It's physically impossible for them to feel it. It'd be like labeling a wolf evil for mauling you- it doesn't have the capacity to feel morality.

(Plus, it's better to just throw yourself in with the Daedric lot and join them.)

Also, if you think oblivion is better than a some sucky-decent afterlives offered in TES, you need a psych checkup.

[Soviet Post Punk]

Hircine out of the gods is pretty reasonable,

Play Bloodmoon.

[AETEN II]

Hircine out of the gods is pretty reasonable,

Play Bloodmoon.

I have. Compared to the King of Rape (Molag Bal), he looks like a damn good deal.

Although if you're of sufficient skill as a mage, there's nothing stopping you from breaking the restoration school and developing spells to stop aging. Couple with enchanted armor, and you should be good to go and invulnerable to death barring divine intervention.

[Olthar]

Sometimes, life is just so horrible that unmaking it is preferable to living it. The world of TES is one of the worst, cruelest fantasy worlds ever devised. Pretty much throughout the entirety of history, everything has sucked for everyone. The elves are right when they declare Lorkhan the worst evil to ever exist. Tamriel is in shambles because it's always in shambles and will always be in shambles because there will never be a strong enough force for good to change it. Not even the gods will make the world a better place. There are two types of gods in TES: The Daedra, who are evil, and the Aedra who flip-flop between evil and apathy. When the kindest deity in existence is one who does nothing, that's a problem. Mundus would be a far better place if it ceased to exist.

Thanks. I haven't laughed that long in a long damn time.

TES is a downright decent place to live. The only reason why it's in shambles is due to the hilarious, unrealistic incompetence of the leaders but does definitely have its brightspots- it just sucks to live in some areas, kinda like real life. Also, Daedra are pretty downright decent in some cases- Hircine out of the gods is pretty reasonable, and becoming a werewolf for garunteed continuation of your soul isn't a half bad deal, even if you have to play the role of prey sometimes- you still respawn when he bags you in his hunting grounds. Sure you've got nasty ones like Molag Bal- however the majority of Daedra are so-so. They're not evil even technically- they're alien extradimensional creatures that don't understand mortal society. It's physically impossible for them to feel it. It'd be like labeling a wolf evil for mauling you- it doesn't have the capacity to feel morality.

(Plus, it's better to just throw yourself in with the Daedric lot and join them.)

Also, if you think oblivion is better than a some sucky-decent afterlives offered in TES, you need a psych checkup.

The Daedra were born from the blood of Padomay. They are the very essence of evil.

And if you think that Hircine is comparatively reasonable, then that only goes to show how utterly deplorable the rest are.

[AETEN II]

Thanks. I haven't laughed that long in a long damn time.

TES is a downright decent place to live. The only reason why it's in shambles is due to the hilarious, unrealistic incompetence of the leaders but does definitely have its brightspots- it just sucks to live in some areas, kinda like real life. Also, Daedra are pretty downright decent in some cases- Hircine out of the gods is pretty reasonable, and becoming a werewolf for garunteed continuation of your soul isn't a half bad deal, even if you have to play the role of prey sometimes- you still respawn when he bags you in his hunting grounds. Sure you've got nasty ones like Molag Bal- however the majority of Daedra are so-so. They're not evil even technically- they're alien extradimensional creatures that don't understand mortal society. It's physically impossible for them to feel it. It'd be like labeling a wolf evil for mauling you- it doesn't have the capacity to feel morality.

(Plus, it's better to just throw yourself in with the Daedric lot and join them.)

Also, if you think oblivion is better than a some sucky-decent afterlives offered in TES, you need a psych checkup.

The Daedra were born from the blood of Padomay. They are the very essence of evil.

And if you think that Hircine is comparatively reasonable, then that only goes to show how utterly deplorable the rest are.

Yeah, and they haven't got anything on a good chunk of the stuff I read. Molag Bal is lite compared to the Eldritch Abominations I'm familiar with.

Also, yeah, forgot about Sanguine. Hircine and Sanguine really aren't that half bad. Just with Hircine you have to accept that your eternity is gonna suck half the time. And the Daedra only appear evil to mortals. Among themselves, their society has no concept of death due to their complete immortality and constant rebirth. They would have no reason to have such moral constructs, which exist among 'mortals' due to it having negative effects on them. They're as evil as a small child stomping insects into the ground with the heel of his boot.

[Soviet Post Punk]

Play Bloodmoon.

I have. Compared to the King of Rape (Molag Bal), he looks like a damn good deal.

Doesn't make him any less of a bastard. Being resigned to a life of rejection by your peers and the knowledge that you could unwittingly slaughter anyone or even spread the loathsome doesn't sound like a good existence. "he's not as bad as the others!!", not a good argument.

[Olthar]

The Daedra were born from the blood of Padomay. They are the very essence of evil.

And if you think that Hircine is comparatively reasonable, then that only goes to show how utterly deplorable the rest are.

Yeah, and they haven't got anything on a good chunk of the stuff I read. Molag Bal is lite compared to the Eldritch Abominations I'm familiar with.

Also, yeah, forgot about Sanguine. Hircine and Sanguine really aren't that half bad. Just with Hircine you have to accept that your eternity is gonna suck half the time. And the Daedra only appear evil to mortals. Among themselves, their society has no concept of death due to their complete immortality and constant rebirth. They would have no reason to have such moral constructs, which exist among 'mortals' due to it having negative effects on them. They're as evil as a small child stomping insects into the ground with the heel of his boot.

And? Just because worse exists doesn't mean that bad isn't bad. Just because there have been genocides in the past, it doesn't suddenly make murder okay.