Is anyone actually harmed by gay marriage?

[Seitonjin]

Hey Liri should we invite this person to our sleepover?

Hey kids, this better be a Levitical friendly sleep over or Mean old Menassa's Gonna be angry.

Oh my.

[The Scientific States]

You want to prevent discrimination of homosexuals (etc) by discriminating them, how does this make sense?You claim to respect their freedom of speech, and yet you want to force them into closets. These are contradictory ideas. If you care about there safety, go after the people threatening their safety.

Please stop ignoring me. I have basically said the same thing for the past few days and still not been answered.

Their saftey would be insured if they kept their existance as a homosexual secret. Who would attack you if they didnt know you were gay. The bigots would have no one to attack if their victims dont exist.

My brain hurts thanks to you.

[Tlaceceyaya]

You want to prevent discrimination of homosexuals (etc) by discriminating them, how does this make sense?You claim to respect their freedom of speech, and yet you want to force them into closets. These are contradictory ideas. If you care about there safety, go after the people threatening their safety.

Please stop ignoring me. I have basically said the same thing for the past few days and still not been answered.

Their saftey would be insured if they kept their existance as a homosexual secret. Who would attack you if they didnt know you were gay. The bigots would have no one to attack if their victims dont exist.

Why not address the fucking problem — the bigots — rather than be one of them? When there are people oppressing others, the human thing to do is to stop the oppressors, not oppress the oppressed.

[Williamson]

My friend I am not a bigot. I care for gays so much I care for their saftey I dont understand why anyone one cant understand. I really do care. I just want them to keep their personel lives secret. I cant understand why everyone attacks me. In fact I never understood. I just want whats best for people thats all.

You want to prevent discrimination of homosexuals (etc) by discriminating them, how does this make sense?You claim to respect their freedom of speech, and yet you want to force them into closets. These are contradictory ideas. If you care about there safety, go after the people threatening their safety.

Please stop ignoring me. I have basically said the same thing for the past few days and still not been answered.

your never going to get an answer. He just going to repeat the same bullshit he been saying for the past couple days

[Meryuma]

Technically human morality is subjective. You get your morality from the Bible; others may not (I get mine from common-sense and tit-for-tat arguments, some may get it from their holy books, etc). To claim homosexuality is evil because of the Bible is inherently subjective because the Bible itself is not an objective text.

For the final time, homosexual tendencies are not sinful, homosexual acts are! That is what I think!

Why would God create people to live lives of misery and repression, though?

And you think that if you ban homosexuals being open about their sexuality that there will be no homosexuals?

That's just such a delusional idea that I need to laugh harder. Hold on.

If you ban the act of being homosexual, their will be still be homosexuals. If you tell them that they must keep themselves secret what have you banned? Nothing. You can still live a long, and meaningful life. Without having to worry about your saftey being comprimised.

If you give the Mafia your money for their protection every month, you can still live a long and meaningful life, without your safety being compromised.

Homosexuality is a sexual fetish.

A sexual fetish involves the fetishization of something non-sexual. Homosexuality is an orientation. There's a difference.

Homosexuality is a sexual fetish. It doesn't deserve special recognition any more than pedophile or zoophile relationships do. Not to mention that broadening the definition of marriage is a slippery slope, as fallacious as some people deem that argument to be, people are already pushing for the acceptance of "transgender" people as being the opposite gender, or even claiming that gender is not binary. The amount of mental gymnastics involved with that is beyond me, but, it's happening. Who knows what will be next? In ten years, maybe people will sign into Nationstates and see a "is anyone really harmed by pedophile marriage?" thread. I hope that isn't the case.

If you'd like to see how homosexuals act when they're unopposed, feel free to Google zombietime.com's article on the Folsom Street Fair (Extremely NSFW and disturbing, browse it at your own risk.) Not to mention they produce abrasive homosexual propaganda aimed at children like this.

PROVE that it's a sexual fetish.

And no, pedophilic marriage will never happen, because children cannot legally consent.

It already has...

in Saudi Arabia, a country where sodomy gets the death penalty.

[Seitonjin]

And is their another person I can annoy on how they are wrong when they say they get harmed by gay marriage and marriage equality?

[Blasveck]

You want to prevent discrimination of homosexuals (etc) by discriminating them, how does this make sense?You claim to respect their freedom of speech, and yet you want to force them into closets. These are contradictory ideas. If you care about there safety, go after the people threatening their safety.

Please stop ignoring me. I have basically said the same thing for the past few days and still not been answered.

Their saftey would be insured if they kept their existance as a homosexual secret. Who would attack you if they didnt know you were gay. The bigots would have no one to attack if their victims dont exist.

How about "Let people be gay, and don't be a bigot to them."?

[Dyakovo]

I am not a bigot. I care for gays so much.

Bullshit.

[The Scientific States]

And is their another person I can annoy on how they are wrong when they say they get harmed by gay marriage and marriage equality?

There are two people here who you can annoy with that.

[Neutraligon]

You want to prevent discrimination of homosexuals (etc) by discriminating them, how does this make sense?You claim to respect their freedom of speech, and yet you want to force them into closets. These are contradictory ideas. If you care about there safety, go after the people threatening their safety.

Please stop ignoring me. I have basically said the same thing for the past few days and still not been answered.

Their saftey would be insured if they kept their existance as a homosexual secret. Who would attack you if they didnt know you were gay. The bigots would have no one to attack if their victims dont exist.

Actually, it wouldn't be, even in countries where people try and keep it safe, people are illed for apparent homosexuality. And again, why not have people deal with those who are breaking the law by harming homosexuals instead of forcing homosexuals into the closet (preventing them from their freedom of speech). You really did fail to answer my question.

[Riiser-Larsen]

You want to prevent discrimination of homosexuals (etc) by discriminating them, how does this make sense?You claim to respect their freedom of speech, and yet you want to force them into closets. These are contradictory ideas. If you care about there safety, go after the people threatening their safety.

Please stop ignoring me. I have basically said the same thing for the past few days and still not been answered.

Their saftey would be insured if they kept their existance as a homosexual secret. Who would attack you if they didnt know you were gay. The bigots would have no one to attack if their victims dont exist.

Your argument is that we shouldn't say anything and leave society as it is, with gay people discriminated against and oppressed, because there are some people in the world who don't like that gay people exist. Okay, should be also ban the sports that people don't like, because that fits your argument too. I think that people who play softball should never admit to playing softball and hide it, because there are people who don't like softball and think it's a stupid sport. We can have a fun little coming-out-of-the-closet party (or shunning if you're an ass) for people who are brave enough to admit that they play the forbidden sport.

Yeah, I think I'm going to stick to changing society instead of bending over and pulling down my pants for every person who happens to disagree with something I'm okay with.

[Seitonjin]

And is their another person I can annoy on how they are wrong when they say they get harmed by gay marriage and marriage equality?

There are two people here who you can annoy with that.

Thank yous!

[Chishimotata]

And the nation name is "The Patriarchal States". $10 that the user's an anti-feminist too.

I can't tell if you're trolling or you seriously think the word Patriarch is something related to Feminist theory with no other prior uses.

Hint: It's related to the symbol in the center of my flag.

You know, it's really, really not smart to call people trolls on this forum. Just saying!

[Seitonjin]

Homosexuality is a sexual fetish. It doesn't deserve special recognition any more than pedophile or zoophile relationships do. Not to mention that broadening the definition of marriage is a slippery slope, as fallacious as some people deem that argument to be, people are already pushing for the acceptance of "transgender" people as being the opposite gender, or even claiming that gender is not binary. The amount of mental gymnastics involved with that is beyond me, but, it's happening. Who knows what will be next? In ten years, maybe people will sign into Nationstates and see a "is anyone really harmed by pedophile marriage?" thread. I hope that isn't the case.

If you'd like to see how homosexuals act when they're unopposed, feel free to Google zombietime.com's article on the Folsom Street Fair (Extremely NSFW and disturbing, browse it at your own risk.) Not to mention they produce abrasive homosexual propaganda aimed at children like this.

No. It is not a disease or a fetish. Go home and oppress someone else.

[The Misotheist Reich]

Their saftey would be insured if they kept their existance as a homosexual secret. Who would attack you if they didnt know you were gay. The bigots would have no one to attack if their victims dont exist.

Why not address the fucking problem — the bigots — rather than be one of them? When there are people oppressing others, the human thing to do is to stop the oppressors, not oppress the oppressed.

How is a secret oppressive?

[Liriena]

My friend I am not a bigot. I care for gays so much I care for their saftey I dont understand why anyone one cant understand. I really do care. I just want them to keep their personel lives secret. I cant understand why everyone attacks me. In fact I never understood. I just want whats best for people thats all.

You fucking liar!

What I meant was if something happens to gays in Africa, why must the rest of world die? Im straight so I could care less. If something happens to them it wont effect me or any other straight person.

I am a Humam being. I know empathy, but Im straight so I dont care what happens to gay people because Im not gay. So its not my responsibility. You liberals can go charge into battle for the rainbow banner, but Im not. I could care less.

[Neutraligon]

Why not address the fucking problem — the bigots — rather than be one of them? When there are people oppressing others, the human thing to do is to stop the oppressors, not oppress the oppressed.

How is a secret oppressive?

You are seriously asking this?

[The Scientific States]

Why not address the fucking problem — the bigots — rather than be one of them? When there are people oppressing others, the human thing to do is to stop the oppressors, not oppress the oppressed.

How is a secret oppressive?

Forcing people to hide their true identity is oppressive. You know that.

You know you're lying, and if you'd admit you're spouting this bullshit so you don't have to admit defeat, you'd save yourself a tiny bit of embarrassment.

[Menassa]

Why not address the fucking problem — the bigots — rather than be one of them? When there are people oppressing others, the human thing to do is to stop the oppressors, not oppress the oppressed.

How is a secret oppressive?

It's the not the secret, it's forcing someone to keep it.

[Blasveck]

Why not address the fucking problem — the bigots — rather than be one of them? When there are people oppressing others, the human thing to do is to stop the oppressors, not oppress the oppressed.

How is a secret oppressive?

Don't be fucking oppressive!

Don't be a bigot towards openly gay people!

[Luveria]

You are a bigot and a horrible person, as by definition that's what bigots are.


Restricting their human rights isn't hurting gay people? How does that work?


The above makes no sense at all. You want gay people to be safe from discrimination....by abolishing anti-discrimination laws? You're discriminating against gay people by denying them human rights.


You don't care and you don't respect gays. No one's falling for that.


Then why are you advocating doing things that hurt gay people?


What is homosexualism? You can't hate homosexuality without hating gay people.


NO ONE IS FORCING YOU TO BE IN A SAME-SEX RELATIONSHIP. Why do you deny other people the right to have a relationship?


No, you do hate communists too. And why aren't you denying them the right to marry other communists?


You want free speech for yourself, while you want everyone else silenced.


You've made it clear you do hate gay people, enough to deny them basic human rights. Same-sex relationships aren't an idea any more than opposite-sex relationships are. Last I checked, no one is forcing you to be in a relationship and I seriously doubt anyone would want to be with you anyway.


What does that have to do with anything? Religious beliefs are religious beliefs. You're attacking a sexual orientation, something no one chooses.


Again.... what does that have to do with you being a homophobe? Homosexuality isn't a notion any more than heterosexuality is. Give one actual reason do dislike homosexuality. I'm guessing your best answer is "eww Icky! BUT LESBIANS ARE OMGHAWTTTTTT"

My friend I am not a bigot. I care for gays so much I care for their saftey I dont understand why anyone one cant understand. I really do care. I just want them to keep their personel lives secret. I cant understand why everyone attacks me. In fact I never understood. I just want whats best for people thats all.

You are a bigot.

Bigot:

a person who is obstinately or intolerantly devoted to his or her own opinions and prejudices; especially : one who regards or treats the members of a group (as a racial or ethnic group) with hatred and intolerance.

You see what you're doing? You're being intolerant of gay people. You're devoted to your opinion of oppressing gay people. You're telling gay people to hide their sexual orientation so that they are safe from bigots. That's a really fucked up way of thinking. You're probably one of those people who tells rape victims they shouldn't have dressed so slutty if they didn't want to get raped.

[The Misotheist Reich]

Their saftey would be insured if they kept their existance as a homosexual secret. Who would attack you if they didnt know you were gay. The bigots would have no one to attack if their victims dont exist.

Actually, it wouldn't be, even in countries where people try and keep it safe, people are illed for apparent homosexuality. And again, why not have people deal with those who are breaking the law by harming homosexuals instead of forcing homosexuals into the closet (preventing them from their freedom of speech). You really did fail to answer my question.

How can homosexuals get hurt if bigots dont know that their enemy exist?

[Williamson]

Why not address the fucking problem — the bigots — rather than be one of them? When there are people oppressing others, the human thing to do is to stop the oppressors, not oppress the oppressed.

How is a secret oppressive?

forcing people to hide who they really are is oppressive

[Tlaceceyaya]

Why not address the fucking problem — the bigots — rather than be one of them? When there are people oppressing others, the human thing to do is to stop the oppressors, not oppress the oppressed.

How is a secret oppressive?

What is oppressive is people like you demanding that they hide who they are; that they live in perpetual fear because you are pretending that you care for their safety when you oppress them.

[Chishimotata]

Why not address the fucking problem — the bigots — rather than be one of them? When there are people oppressing others, the human thing to do is to stop the oppressors, not oppress the oppressed.

How is a secret oppressive?

Oh, I don't know, maybe telling other people that they should cater to your bigoted sensibilities and hide their sexuality and pretend that it doesn't exist in a condescending tone is pissing people off?