Is anyone actually harmed by gay marriage?

[The Misotheist Reich]

I dont understand what I did to get banned. I was simply staing my most honest opinions, and view points. I may seem to you as a bigot, a horrible person.

You are a bigot and a horrible person, as by definition that's what bigots are.

But the reason behind my argument is that I care about the gays. I dont want them to get hurt.

Restricting their human rights isn't hurting gay people? How does that work?

But I dont want the government breating down my neck with anti discrimination laws either. I only want gays to be safe from discrimination, thats all.

The above makes no sense at all. You want gay people to be safe from discrimination....by abolishing anti-discrimination laws? You're discriminating against gay people by denying them human rights.

As a human being I am inclined to care about others which I do. I respect gays as living breathing human beings with feelings, and hearts.

You don't care and you don't respect gays. No one's falling for that.

I wouldnt want to see them get hurt.

Then why are you advocating doing things that hurt gay people?

I hate homosexualism not homosexuals.

What is homosexualism? You can't hate homosexuality without hating gay people.

I dont like the idea of two of the same sex in a relationship, but I still respect the homosexuals as human beings.

NO ONE IS FORCING YOU TO BE IN A SAME-SEX RELATIONSHIP. Why do you deny other people the right to have a relationship?

I hate communism, but not communist. For its the idea I despise, not the people behind it.

No, you do hate communists too. And why aren't you denying them the right to marry other communists?

So my theory is that to respect peoples freedom to free speech in free countries though I appose it some instances, I am not willing to give it up whlie I still have it, and to ensure this freedom for non violent anti gay activist.

You want free speech for yourself, while you want everyone else silenced.

If you were gay I wouldnt hate you, I would respect you, but that dosent mean I have to like the idea of two men or two women being in a relationship together.

You've made it clear you do hate gay people, enough to deny them basic human rights. Same-sex relationships aren't an idea any more than opposite-sex relationships are. Last I checked, no one is forcing you to be in a relationship and I seriously doubt anyone would want to be with you anyway.

If your an athiest you dont attack theist do you? No you dont.

What does that have to do with anything? Religious beliefs are religious beliefs. You're attacking a sexual orientation, something no one chooses.

You disagree with the notion of a higher intelligence, but you still can respect christians, jews, muslims, buddist, hinduist, etc.

Again.... what does that have to do with you being a homophobe? Homosexuality isn't a notion any more than heterosexuality is. Give one actual reason do dislike homosexuality. I'm guessing your best answer is "eww Icky! BUT LESBIANS ARE OMGHAWTTTTTT"

My friend I am not a bigot. I care for gays so much I care for their saftey I dont understand why anyone one cant understand. I really do care. I just want them to keep their personel lives secret. I cant understand why everyone attacks me. In fact I never understood. I just want whats best for people thats all.

[Neutraligon]

Homosexuality is a sexual fetish. It doesn't deserve special recognition any more than pedophile or zoophile relationships do. Not to mention that broadening the definition of marriage is a slippery slope, as fallacious as some people deem that argument to be, people are already pushing for the acceptance of "transgender" people as being the opposite gender, or even claiming that gender is not binary. The amount of mental gymnastics involved with that is beyond me, but, it's happening. Who knows what will be next? In ten years, maybe people will sign into Nationstates and see a "is anyone really harmed by pedophile marriage?" thread. I hope that isn't the case.

If you'd like to see how homosexuals act when they're unopposed, feel free to Google zombietime.com's article on the Folsom Street Fair (Extremely NSFW and disturbing, browse it at your own risk.) Not to mention they produce abrasive homosexual propaganda aimed at children like this.

Fetishes are different. They're acquired. Homosexuality is, well, it's not really proven how exactly it happens, but one leading theory is that it's essentially a "birth defect" for lack of a better word. It happens when the proper hormonal wash of the brain during the pregnancy fails, and the child is born with part of their brain as the opposite gender, sort of. Specifically the part of the brain that determines sexual attraction. Some may not realize it until later in their lives which is partially why some think of it as an acquired or chosen fetish, but that appears to not be the case.

You know, I have not heard of this explanation.

[Chishimotata]

And the nation name is "The Patriarchal States". $10 that the user's an anti-feminist too.

I tend not to depend on nation names so much. We have some very nice Nazis on here.

Good point, but with all of that ignorance, I wouldn't be surprised if the user WAS an anti-feminist.

[Williamson]

Homosexuality is a sexual fetish. It doesn't deserve special recognition any more than pedophile or zoophile relationships do. Not to mention that broadening the definition of marriage is a slippery slope, as fallacious as some people deem that argument to be, people are already pushing for the acceptance of "transgender" people as being the opposite gender, or even claiming that gender is not binary. The amount of mental gymnastics involved with that is beyond me, but, it's happening. Who knows what will be next? In ten years, maybe people will sign into Nationstates and see a "is anyone really harmed by pedophile marriage?" thread. I hope that isn't the case.

If you'd like to see how homosexuals act when they're unopposed, feel free to Google zombietime.com's article on the Folsom Street Fair (Extremely NSFW and disturbing, browse it at your own risk.) Not to mention they produce abrasive homosexual propaganda aimed at children like this.

yeah ignorance who doesn't love that.

[Liriena]

Homosexuality is a sexual fetish. It doesn't deserve special recognition any more than pedophile or zoophile relationships do. Not to mention that broadening the definition of marriage is a slippery slope, as fallacious as some people deem that argument to be, people are already pushing for the acceptance of "transgender" people as being the opposite gender, or even claiming that gender is not binary. The amount of mental gymnastics involved with that is beyond me, but, it's happening. Who knows what will be next? In ten years, maybe people will sign into Nationstates and see a "is anyone really harmed by pedophile marriage?" thread. I hope that isn't the case.

If you'd like to see how homosexuals act when they're unopposed, feel free to Google zombietime.com's article on the Folsom Street Fair (Extremely NSFW and disturbing, browse it at your own risk.) Not to mention they produce abrasive homosexual propaganda aimed at children like this.

Fetishes are different. They're acquired. Homosexuality is, well, it's not really proven how exactly it happens, but one leading theory is that it's essentially a "birth defect" for lack of a better word. It happens when the proper hormonal wash of the brain during the pregnancy fails, and the child is born with part of their brain as the opposite gender, sort of. Specifically the part of the brain that determines sexual attraction. Some may not realize it until later in their lives which is partially why some think of it as an acquired or chosen fetish, but that appears to not be the case.

Not to mention sexual orientation and paraphilias function on widely different levels and equally different ways.

[Solaray]

I think I would have died from laughter except the fact that it is so sad.

And the nation name is "The Patriarchal States". $10 that the user's an anti-feminist too.

Feminism is pretty shitty when taken to the extreme. But, then again, so are a lot of things.

[Menassa]

Thanks for showing us that you have absolutely no understanding regarding the many aspects of homosexuality and paraphilias. That, and an even more hilarious lack of understanding of basic logic and history. Not a single sentence in your entire post was truthful or relevant, and the lack of self-awareness on your part makes it all the more delightful to read.

Hey Liri should we invite this person to our sleepover?

Hey kids, this better be a Levitical friendly sleep over or Mean old Menassa's Gonna be angry.

[Cadaver breadsticks]

You are a bigot and a horrible person, as by definition that's what bigots are.


Restricting their human rights isn't hurting gay people? How does that work?


The above makes no sense at all. You want gay people to be safe from discrimination....by abolishing anti-discrimination laws? You're discriminating against gay people by denying them human rights.


You don't care and you don't respect gays. No one's falling for that.


Then why are you advocating doing things that hurt gay people?


What is homosexualism? You can't hate homosexuality without hating gay people.


NO ONE IS FORCING YOU TO BE IN A SAME-SEX RELATIONSHIP. Why do you deny other people the right to have a relationship?


No, you do hate communists too. And why aren't you denying them the right to marry other communists?


You want free speech for yourself, while you want everyone else silenced.


You've made it clear you do hate gay people, enough to deny them basic human rights. Same-sex relationships aren't an idea any more than opposite-sex relationships are. Last I checked, no one is forcing you to be in a relationship and I seriously doubt anyone would want to be with you anyway.


What does that have to do with anything? Religious beliefs are religious beliefs. You're attacking a sexual orientation, something no one chooses.


Again.... what does that have to do with you being a homophobe? Homosexuality isn't a notion any more than heterosexuality is. Give one actual reason do dislike homosexuality. I'm guessing your best answer is "eww Icky! BUT LESBIANS ARE OMGHAWTTTTTT"

My friend I am not a bigot. I care for gays so much I care for their saftey I dont understand why anyone one cant understand. I really do care. I just want them to keep their personel lives secret. I cant understand why everyone attacks me. In fact I never understood. I just want whats best for people thats all.

"What's best for people" does not equal forcing everyone of a non-heterosexual orientation to have to hide their sexuality to satisfy bigoted minds.

Don't be so dishonest with yourself to believe it does.

[The Scientific States]

You are a bigot and a horrible person, as by definition that's what bigots are.


Restricting their human rights isn't hurting gay people? How does that work?


The above makes no sense at all. You want gay people to be safe from discrimination....by abolishing anti-discrimination laws? You're discriminating against gay people by denying them human rights.


You don't care and you don't respect gays. No one's falling for that.


Then why are you advocating doing things that hurt gay people?


What is homosexualism? You can't hate homosexuality without hating gay people.


NO ONE IS FORCING YOU TO BE IN A SAME-SEX RELATIONSHIP. Why do you deny other people the right to have a relationship?


No, you do hate communists too. And why aren't you denying them the right to marry other communists?


You want free speech for yourself, while you want everyone else silenced.


You've made it clear you do hate gay people, enough to deny them basic human rights. Same-sex relationships aren't an idea any more than opposite-sex relationships are. Last I checked, no one is forcing you to be in a relationship and I seriously doubt anyone would want to be with you anyway.


What does that have to do with anything? Religious beliefs are religious beliefs. You're attacking a sexual orientation, something no one chooses.


Again.... what does that have to do with you being a homophobe? Homosexuality isn't a notion any more than heterosexuality is. Give one actual reason do dislike homosexuality. I'm guessing your best answer is "eww Icky! BUT LESBIANS ARE OMGHAWTTTTTT"

My friend I am not a bigot. I care for gays so much I care for their saftey I dont understand why anyone one cant understand. I really do care. I just want them to keep their personel lives secret. I cant understand why everyone attacks me. In fact I never understood. I just want whats best for people thats all.

Stop lying. You can't force people to stay silent. That's oppression and if you cared the tiniest bit for LGBT people you wouldn't tell them to be quiet.

[Tlaceceyaya]

You are a bigot and a horrible person, as by definition that's what bigots are.


Restricting their human rights isn't hurting gay people? How does that work?


The above makes no sense at all. You want gay people to be safe from discrimination....by abolishing anti-discrimination laws? You're discriminating against gay people by denying them human rights.


You don't care and you don't respect gays. No one's falling for that.


Then why are you advocating doing things that hurt gay people?


What is homosexualism? You can't hate homosexuality without hating gay people.


NO ONE IS FORCING YOU TO BE IN A SAME-SEX RELATIONSHIP. Why do you deny other people the right to have a relationship?


No, you do hate communists too. And why aren't you denying them the right to marry other communists?


You want free speech for yourself, while you want everyone else silenced.


You've made it clear you do hate gay people, enough to deny them basic human rights. Same-sex relationships aren't an idea any more than opposite-sex relationships are. Last I checked, no one is forcing you to be in a relationship and I seriously doubt anyone would want to be with you anyway.


What does that have to do with anything? Religious beliefs are religious beliefs. You're attacking a sexual orientation, something no one chooses.


Again.... what does that have to do with you being a homophobe? Homosexuality isn't a notion any more than heterosexuality is. Give one actual reason do dislike homosexuality. I'm guessing your best answer is "eww Icky! BUT LESBIANS ARE OMGHAWTTTTTT"

My friend I am not a bigot. I care for gays so much I care for their saftey I dont understand why anyone one cant understand. I really do care. I just want them to keep their personel lives secret. I cant understand why everyone attacks me. In fact I never understood. I just want whats best for people thats all.

You don't give a fuck about their fucking safety. If you did, you'd be opposed to the bigots who oppress them, rather than to them.
Your stance is like suggesting that people should just keep their doors locked when there's a serial killer roaming around rather than trying to find and arrest them.

[Neutraligon]

You are a bigot and a horrible person, as by definition that's what bigots are.


Restricting their human rights isn't hurting gay people? How does that work?


The above makes no sense at all. You want gay people to be safe from discrimination....by abolishing anti-discrimination laws? You're discriminating against gay people by denying them human rights.


You don't care and you don't respect gays. No one's falling for that.


Then why are you advocating doing things that hurt gay people?


What is homosexualism? You can't hate homosexuality without hating gay people.


NO ONE IS FORCING YOU TO BE IN A SAME-SEX RELATIONSHIP. Why do you deny other people the right to have a relationship?


No, you do hate communists too. And why aren't you denying them the right to marry other communists?


You want free speech for yourself, while you want everyone else silenced.


You've made it clear you do hate gay people, enough to deny them basic human rights. Same-sex relationships aren't an idea any more than opposite-sex relationships are. Last I checked, no one is forcing you to be in a relationship and I seriously doubt anyone would want to be with you anyway.


What does that have to do with anything? Religious beliefs are religious beliefs. You're attacking a sexual orientation, something no one chooses.


Again.... what does that have to do with you being a homophobe? Homosexuality isn't a notion any more than heterosexuality is. Give one actual reason do dislike homosexuality. I'm guessing your best answer is "eww Icky! BUT LESBIANS ARE OMGHAWTTTTTT"

My friend I am not a bigot. I care for gays so much I care for their saftey I dont understand why anyone one cant understand. I really do care. I just want them to keep their personel lives secret. I cant understand why everyone attacks me. In fact I never understood. I just want whats best for people thats all.

You want to prevent discrimination of homosexuals (etc) by discriminating them, how does this make sense?You claim to respect their freedom of speech, and yet you want to force them into closets. These are contradictory ideas. If you care about there safety, go after the people threatening their safety.

Please stop ignoring me. I have basically said the same thing for the past few days and still not been answered.

[Chishimotata]

My friend I am not a bigot. I care for gays so much I care for their saftey I dont understand why anyone one cant understand. I really do care. I just want them to keep their personel lives secret. I cant understand why everyone attacks me. In fact I never understood. I just want whats best for people thats all.

You're lying, and you know it. You don't want the best for people. You just don't want to ever feel uncomfortable in your privileged little life.

[Blasveck]

Thanks for showing us that you have absolutely no understanding regarding the many aspects of homosexuality and paraphilias. That, and an even more hilarious lack of understanding of basic logic and history. Not a single sentence in your entire post was truthful or relevant, and the lack of self-awareness on your part makes it all the more delightful to read.

Hey Liri should we invite this person to our sleepover?

Our sleepover is still on?

[Solaray]

Fetishes are different. They're acquired. Homosexuality is, well, it's not really proven how exactly it happens, but one leading theory is that it's essentially a "birth defect" for lack of a better word. It happens when the proper hormonal wash of the brain during the pregnancy fails, and the child is born with part of their brain as the opposite gender, sort of. Specifically the part of the brain that determines sexual attraction. Some may not realize it until later in their lives which is partially why some think of it as an acquired or chosen fetish, but that appears to not be the case.

Not to mention sexual orientation and paraphilias function on widely different levels and equally different ways.

Yeah, fetishes are sort of an "add-on" to orientation, whereas orientation is the base. Gays can have fetishes too.

[Neutraligon]

Hey Liri should we invite this person to our sleepover?

Our sleepover is still on?

It will NEVER end.

[Liriena]

Thanks for showing us that you have absolutely no understanding regarding the many aspects of homosexuality and paraphilias. That, and an even more hilarious lack of understanding of basic logic and history. Not a single sentence in your entire post was truthful or relevant, and the lack of self-awareness on your part makes it all the more delightful to read.

Hey Liri should we invite this person to our sleepover?

Definitely. :3

[Chishimotata]

And the nation name is "The Patriarchal States". $10 that the user's an anti-feminist too.

Feminism is pretty shitty when taken to the extreme. But, then again, so are a lot of things.

It's not a feminism thread, so I won't argue with you on this point. Needless to say, misandry is not feminism.

[Blasveck]

Hey Liri should we invite this person to our sleepover?

Hey kids, this better be a Levitical friendly sleep over or Mean old Menassa's Gonna be angry.

It's always Levitical friendly....

Don't worry.

[Pouksland]

It needs to be banned. Homosexuality is a sin.

So a man and a man or a woman and a woman marrying is a sin, but a rapist marrying his victim is not? Flawless logic as always...

[The Patriarchal States]

And the nation name is "The Patriarchal States". $10 that the user's an anti-feminist too.

I can't tell if you're trolling or you seriously think the word Patriarch is something related to Feminist theory with no other prior uses.

Hint: It's related to the symbol in the center of my flag.

[Luveria]

Homosexuality is a sexual fetish.

1) Source?

2) Implying fetishes are wrong?

It doesn't deserve special recognition any more than pedophile or zoophile relationships do.]

Consent. Do you know what that is? Or do you not give a fuck about people saying yes or no? What a horrible person you are if you don't care about consent.

Not to mention that broadening the definition of marriage is a slippery slope, as fallacious as some people deem that argument to be, people are already pushing for the acceptance of "transgender" people as being the opposite gender, or even claiming that gender is not binary.

Slippery slope fallacy.

Transgender people should be accepted. I don't want to be treated like shit because of bigots like you. Secondly, male and female aren't opposite genders. And gender isn't binary. This is well established, and sex isn't binary either. Unless you want to provide a source that gender isn't binary? You can't, can you? Of course not. You just spout a lot of claims without ever backing it up with anything. Typical of you homophobes.

The amount of mental gymnastics involved with that is beyond me, but, it's happening.

You've made it clear the concept of gender is beyond your cognitive capabilities. That doesn't mean other people are incapable of understanding scientific facts.

Who knows what will be next? In ten years, maybe people will sign into Nationstates and see a "is anyone really harmed by pedophile marriage?" thread. I hope that isn't the case.

What does pedophilia have to do with transgender people? Are you really that much of a fucking bigot to compare transgender people with pedophiles? Wow.

If you'd like to see how homosexuals act when they're unopposed, feel free to Google zombietime.com's article on the Folsom Street Fair (Extremely NSFW and disturbing, browse it at your own risk.)

What the fuck. Unopposed? Implying homosexuals need to be kept down? If it's a NSFW link, then don't tell people to go it.

Not to mention they produce abrasive homosexual propaganda aimed at children like this.

The icing on the cake.

BUT THINK OF THE CHILDREN!!!!!!!111!1!11!1

[The Misotheist Reich]

My friend I am not a bigot. I care for gays so much I care for their saftey I dont understand why anyone one cant understand. I really do care. I just want them to keep their personel lives secret. I cant understand why everyone attacks me. In fact I never understood. I just want whats best for people thats all.

You want to prevent discrimination of homosexuals (etc) by discriminating them, how does this make sense?You claim to respect their freedom of speech, and yet you want to force them into closets. These are contradictory ideas. If you care about there safety, go after the people threatening their safety.

Please stop ignoring me. I have basically said the same thing for the past few days and still not been answered.

Their saftey would be insured if they kept their existance as a homosexual secret. Who would attack you if they didnt know you were gay. The bigots would have no one to attack if their victims dont exist.

[Cadaver breadsticks]

And the nation name is "The Patriarchal States". $10 that the user's an anti-feminist too.

I can't tell if you're trolling [...]

Rich.

[Frisivisia]

And the nation name is "The Patriarchal States". $10 that the user's an anti-feminist too.

I can't tell if you're trolling or you seriously think the word Patriarch is something related to Feminist theory with no other prior uses.

Hint: It's related to the symbol in the center of my flag.

You're into nailing boards through other boards?

[Blasveck]

It needs to be banned. Homosexuality is a sin.

So a man and a man or a woman and a woman marrying is a sin, but a rapist marrying his victim is not? Flawless logic as always...

*cough*Thats in the OT.*cough*