Is anyone actually harmed by gay marriage?

[The Misotheist Reich]

I do hate communism, but not communist. If you ban the idea, there shall be no communist.

And you think that if you ban homosexuals being open about their sexuality that there will be no homosexuals?

That's just such a delusional idea that I need to laugh harder. Hold on.

If you ban the act of being homosexual, their will be still be homosexuals. If you tell them that they must keep themselves secret what have you banned? Nothing. You can still live a long, and meaningful life. Without having to worry about your saftey being comprimised.

[Blasveck]

And you think that if you ban homosexuals being open about their sexuality that there will be no homosexuals?

That's just such a delusional idea that I need to laugh harder. Hold on.

If you ban the act of being homosexual, their will be still be homosexuals. If you tell them that they must keep themselves secret what have you banned? Nothing. You can still live a long, and meaningful life. Without having to worry about your saftey being comprimised.

Do you KNOW what it's like to hide?

You don't.

So quit fucking saying that gay people should have to hide.

[Williamson]

And you think that if you ban homosexuals being open about their sexuality that there will be no homosexuals?

That's just such a delusional idea that I need to laugh harder. Hold on.

If you ban the act of being homosexual, their will be still be homosexuals. If you tell them that they must keep themselves secret what have you banned? Nothing. You can still live a long, and meaningful life. Without having to worry about your saftey being comprimised.

so basically let the bigots control their lives

[Genivaria]

And you think that if you ban homosexuals being open about their sexuality that there will be no homosexuals?

That's just such a delusional idea that I need to laugh harder. Hold on.

If you ban the act of being homosexual, their will be still be homosexuals. If you tell them that they must keep themselves secret what have you banned? Nothing. You can still live a long, and meaningful life. Without having to worry about your saftey being comprimised.

I hereby ban you from publicly showing your Christianity. You can still have a long and meaningful life as long as you keep it secret.

[Tlaceceyaya]

And you think that if you ban homosexuals being open about their sexuality that there will be no homosexuals?

That's just such a delusional idea that I need to laugh harder. Hold on.

If you ban the act of being homosexual, their will be still be homosexuals. If you tell them that they must keep themselves secret what have you banned? Nothing. You can still live a long, and meaningful life. Without having to worry about your saftey being comprimised.

How about, rather than banning them from being themselves, you just crack down on the bigots you use to justify your hatred of them being equal?

[Neutraligon]

And you think that if you ban homosexuals being open about their sexuality that there will be no homosexuals?

That's just such a delusional idea that I need to laugh harder. Hold on.

If you ban the act of being homosexual, their will be still be homosexuals. If you tell them that they must keep themselves secret what have you banned? Nothing. You can still live a long, and meaningful life. Without having to worry about your saftey being comprimised.

Mind responding to this

You got banned becuase of the way in which you worded your opinion. You want to prevent discrimination of homosexuals (etc) by discriminating them, how does this make sense?You claim to respect their freedom of speech, and yet you want to force them into closets. These are contradictory ideas.

Now for this comment, you think that forcing people to hide who they are will make them feel that like is meaningful. If their safety is compromised then go after the people compromising their safety, like the law demands.

[Liriena]

That makes absolutely no sense.

It's summertime, that should explain all that.

It's the most pathetic attempt at backpedaling I've witnessed in a while.
He started claiming that he opposed the rights of LGBT people.
Then he moved on to saying that he simply did not care about what happened to anyone other than his loved ones and himself.
Now he's claiming that his endorsement of harmful legal discrimination is anything but discrimination?

No. He's not trolling. He was never trolling.
He's only become increasingly desperate, and he has frantically tried over these past few days to find new creative ways to justify his illogical views. When hateful lies did not do the trick, he resorted to cynicism, and when even that failed, he moved on to this crock of bullshit.

He's not a troll. He's simply lying his ass off to save face.

[The Misotheist Reich]

If you ban the act of being homosexual, their will be still be homosexuals. If you tell them that they must keep themselves secret what have you banned? Nothing. You can still live a long, and meaningful life. Without having to worry about your saftey being comprimised.

I hereby ban you from publicly showing your Christianity. You can still have a long and meaningful life as long as you keep it secret.

Too bad I am an agnostic misotheist.

[Tlaceceyaya]

If you ban the act of being homosexual, their will be still be homosexuals. If you tell them that they must keep themselves secret what have you banned? Nothing. You can still live a long, and meaningful life. Without having to worry about your saftey being comprimised.

so basically let the bigots control their lives

No, no, no, he's protecting them from the bigots.
He'd best hide his own beliefs, lest the world leave him behind as it advances past him.

[The Patriarchal States]

Homosexuality is a sexual fetish. It doesn't deserve special recognition any more than pedophile or zoophile relationships do. Not to mention that broadening the definition of marriage is a slippery slope, as fallacious as some people deem that argument to be, people are already pushing for the acceptance of "transgender" people as being the opposite gender, or even claiming that gender is not binary. The amount of mental gymnastics involved with that is beyond me, but, it's happening. Who knows what will be next? In ten years, maybe people will sign into Nationstates and see a "is anyone really harmed by pedophile marriage?" thread. I hope that isn't the case.

If you'd like to see how homosexuals act when they're unopposed, feel free to Google zombietime.com's article on the Folsom Street Fair (Extremely NSFW and disturbing, browse it at your own risk.) Not to mention they produce abrasive homosexual propaganda aimed at children like this.

[Chishimotata]

And you think that if you ban homosexuals being open about their sexuality that there will be no homosexuals?

That's just such a delusional idea that I need to laugh harder. Hold on.

If you ban the act of being homosexual, their will be still be homosexuals. If you tell them that they must keep themselves secret what have you banned? Nothing. You can still live a long, and meaningful life. Without having to worry about your saftey being comprimised.

It must be nice to say "oh, just hide your sexuality, it's no big" from your rather privileged position in society, isn't it? I mean, it's not like you ever have to face bigotry, discrimination, or outright hatred and condensation by people who society considers "abnormal".

[Luveria]

I dont understand what I did to get banned. I was simply staing my most honest opinions, and view points. I may seem to you as a bigot, a horrible person.

You are a bigot and a horrible person, as by definition that's what bigots are.

But the reason behind my argument is that I care about the gays. I dont want them to get hurt.

Restricting their human rights isn't hurting gay people? How does that work?

But I dont want the government breating down my neck with anti discrimination laws either. I only want gays to be safe from discrimination, thats all.

The above makes no sense at all. You want gay people to be safe from discrimination....by abolishing anti-discrimination laws? You're discriminating against gay people by denying them human rights.

As a human being I am inclined to care about others which I do. I respect gays as living breathing human beings with feelings, and hearts.

You don't care and you don't respect gay people. No one's falling for that.

I wouldnt want to see them get hurt.

Then why are you advocating doing things that hurt gay people?

I hate homosexualism not homosexuals.

What is homosexualism? You can't hate homosexuality without hating gay people.

I dont like the idea of two of the same sex in a relationship, but I still respect the homosexuals as human beings.

NO ONE IS FORCING YOU TO BE IN A SAME-SEX RELATIONSHIP. Why do you deny other people the right to have a relationship?

I hate communism, but not communist. For its the idea I despise, not the people behind it.

No, you do hate communists too. And why aren't you denying them the right to marry other communists?

So my theory is that to respect peoples freedom to free speech in free countries though I appose it some instances, I am not willing to give it up whlie I still have it, and to ensure this freedom for non violent anti gay activist.

You want free speech for yourself, while you want everyone else silenced.

If you were gay I wouldnt hate you, I would respect you, but that dosent mean I have to like the idea of two men or two women being in a relationship together.

You've made it clear you do hate gay people, enough to deny them basic human rights. Same-sex relationships aren't an idea any more than opposite-sex relationships are. Last I checked, no one is forcing you to be in a relationship and I seriously doubt anyone would want to be with you anyway.

If your an athiest you dont attack theist do you? No you dont.

What does that have to do with anything? Religious beliefs are religious beliefs. You're attacking a sexual orientation, something no one chooses.

You disagree with the notion of a higher intelligence, but you still can respect christians, jews, muslims, buddist, hinduist, etc.

Again.... what does that have to do with you being a homophobe? Homosexuality isn't a notion any more than heterosexuality is. Give one actual reason do dislike homosexuality. I'm guessing your best answer is "eww Icky! BUT LESBIANS ARE OMGHAWTTTTTT"

[Cadaver breadsticks]

Homosexuality is a sexual fetish. It doesn't deserve special recognition any more than pedophile or zoophile relationships do. Not to mention that broadening the definition of marriage is a slippery slope, as fallacious as some people deem that argument to be, people are already pushing for the acceptance of "transgender" people as being the opposite gender, or even claiming that gender is not binary. The amount of mental gymnastics involved with that is beyond me, but, it's happening. Who knows what will be next? In ten years, maybe people will sign into Nationstates and see a "is anyone really harmed by pedophile marriage?" thread. I hope that isn't the case.

If you'd like to see how homosexuals act when they're unopposed, feel free to Google zombietime.com's article on the Folsom Street Fair (Extremely NSFW and disturbing, browse it at your own risk.) Not to mention they produce abrasive homosexual propaganda aimed at children like this.

yay, the slippery slope argument rears it's ugly head again!

[Solaray]

If you ban the act of being homosexual, their will be still be homosexuals. If you tell them that they must keep themselves secret what have you banned? Nothing. You can still live a long, and meaningful life. Without having to worry about your saftey being comprimised.

Do you KNOW what it's like to hide?

You don't.

So quit fucking saying that gay people should have to hide.

Are you presuming that he has never played hide and seek? How dare you!

On a serious matter this guy must be super dedicated to have pretty much single-handedly kept this topic going while being totally outnumbered and being modded at least once, I think,(I haven't really been following).

[Neutraligon]

Homosexuality is a sexual fetish. It doesn't deserve special recognition any more than pedophile or zoophile relationships do. Not to mention that broadening the definition of marriage is a slippery slope, as fallacious as some people deem that argument to be, people are already pushing for the acceptance of "transgender" people as being the opposite gender, or even claiming that gender is not binary. The amount of mental gymnastics involved with that is beyond me, but, it's happening. Who knows what will be next? In ten years, maybe people will sign into Nationstates and see a "is anyone really harmed by pedophile marriage?" thread. I hope that isn't the case.

If you'd like to see how homosexuals act when they're unopposed, feel free to Google zombietime.com's article on the Folsom Street Fair (Extremely NSFW and disturbing, browse it at your own risk.) Not to mention they produce abrasive homosexual propaganda aimed at children like this.

Sigh, this again. Homosexuality is not a fetish, nor can it be compared to zoophilia or pedophilia since consent is a thin. Your fallacy is the slippery-slope-fallacy. I don't think you could hit any more wrong statements if you tried. Oh by the way, nice to meet you, I am agendered.

[Liriena]

And you think that if you ban homosexuals being open about their sexuality that there will be no homosexuals?

That's just such a delusional idea that I need to laugh harder. Hold on.

If you ban the act of being homosexual, their will be still be homosexuals. If you tell them that they must keep themselves secret what have you banned? Nothing. You can still live a long, and meaningful life. Without having to worry about your saftey being comprimised.

By having no rights outside of their homes? You are actually saying that LGBT people are better off living imprisoned in their own homes? That they should not expect the state to recognize their relationships or their families as equal or free under the law? That they should not expect society to ever respect them in the least, and live like outcasts?

You don't want to keep them safe. You just want them to like living like lesser beings.

Disgusting.

[Blasveck]

Homosexuality is a sexual fetish. It doesn't deserve special recognition any more than pedophile or zoophile relationships do. Not to mention that broadening the definition of marriage is a slippery slope, as fallacious as some people deem that argument to be, people are already pushing for the acceptance of "transgender" people as being the opposite gender, or even claiming that gender is not binary. The amount of mental gymnastics involved with that is beyond me, but, it's happening. Who knows what will be next? In ten years, maybe people will sign into Nationstates and see a "is anyone really harmed by pedophile marriage?" thread. I hope that isn't the case.

If you'd like to see how homosexuals act when they're unopposed, feel free to Google zombietime.com's article on the Folsom Street Fair (Extremely NSFW and disturbing, browse it at your own risk.) Not to mention they produce abrasive homosexual propaganda aimed at children like this.

PROVE that it's a sexual fetish.

And no, pedophilic marriage will never happen, because children cannot legally consent.

[The Scientific States]

Homosexuality is a sexual fetish. It doesn't deserve special recognition any more than pedophile or zoophile relationships do. Not to mention that broadening the definition of marriage is a slippery slope, as fallacious as some people deem that argument to be, people are already pushing for the acceptance of "transgender" people as being the opposite gender, or even claiming that gender is not binary. The amount of mental gymnastics involved with that is beyond me, but, it's happening. Who knows what will be next? In ten years, maybe people will sign into Nationstates and see a "is anyone really harmed by pedophile marriage?" thread. I hope that isn't the case.

If you'd like to see how homosexuals act when they're unopposed, feel free to Google zombietime.com's article on the Folsom Street Fair (Extremely NSFW and disturbing, browse it at your own risk.) Not to mention they produce abrasive homosexual propaganda aimed at children like this.

I'm sick to my stomach.

That post is ignorant and untrue.

[Chishimotata]

Homosexuality is a sexual fetish. It doesn't deserve special recognition any more than pedophile or zoophile relationships do. Not to mention that broadening the definition of marriage is a slippery slope, as fallacious as some people deem that argument to be, people are already pushing for the acceptance of "transgender" people as being the opposite gender, or even claiming that gender is not binary. The amount of mental gymnastics involved with that is beyond me, but, it's happening. Who knows what will be next? In ten years, maybe people will sign into Nationstates and see a "is anyone really harmed by pedophile marriage?" thread. I hope that isn't the case.

<snip to not get in trouble>

Hm, let's see: slippery slope fallacy, a misunderstanding of what sexuality is, ignorance about trans* issues, ignorance about gender, ignorance about science, AND a suggestion to visit a NSFW link? SMART.

[Neutraligon]

Homosexuality is a sexual fetish. It doesn't deserve special recognition any more than pedophile or zoophile relationships do. Not to mention that broadening the definition of marriage is a slippery slope, as fallacious as some people deem that argument to be, people are already pushing for the acceptance of "transgender" people as being the opposite gender, or even claiming that gender is not binary. The amount of mental gymnastics involved with that is beyond me, but, it's happening. Who knows what will be next? In ten years, maybe people will sign into Nationstates and see a "is anyone really harmed by pedophile marriage?" thread. I hope that isn't the case.

<snip to not get in trouble>

Hm, let's see: slippery slope fallacy, a misunderstanding of what sexuality is, ignorance about trans* issues, ignorance about gender, ignorance about science, AND a suggestion to visit a NSFW link? SMART.

I think I would have died from laughter except the fact that it is so sad.

[Chishimotata]

Hm, let's see: slippery slope fallacy, a misunderstanding of what sexuality is, ignorance about trans* issues, ignorance about gender, ignorance about science, AND a suggestion to visit a NSFW link? SMART.

I think I would have died from laughter except the fact that it is so sad.

And the nation name is "The Patriarchal States". $10 that the user's an anti-feminist too.

[Liriena]

Homosexuality is a sexual fetish. It doesn't deserve special recognition any more than pedophile or zoophile relationships do. Not to mention that broadening the definition of marriage is a slippery slope, as fallacious as some people deem that argument to be, people are already pushing for the acceptance of "transgender" people as being the opposite gender, or even claiming that gender is not binary. The amount of mental gymnastics involved with that is beyond me, but, it's happening. Who knows what will be next? In ten years, maybe people will sign into Nationstates and see a "is anyone really harmed by pedophile marriage?" thread. I hope that isn't the case.

If you'd like to see how homosexuals act when they're unopposed, feel free to Google zombietime.com's article on the Folsom Street Fair (Extremely NSFW and disturbing, browse it at your own risk.) Not to mention they produce abrasive homosexual propaganda aimed at children like this.

Thanks for showing us that you have absolutely no understanding regarding the many aspects of homosexuality and paraphilias. That, and an even more hilarious lack of understanding of basic logic and history. Not a single sentence in your entire post was truthful or relevant, and the lack of self-awareness on your part makes it all the more delightful to read.

[Neutraligon]

I think I would have died from laughter except the fact that it is so sad.

And the nation name is "The Patriarchal States". $10 that the user's an anti-feminist too.

I tend not to depend on nation names so much. We have some very nice Nazis on here.

[Solaray]

Homosexuality is a sexual fetish. It doesn't deserve special recognition any more than pedophile or zoophile relationships do. Not to mention that broadening the definition of marriage is a slippery slope, as fallacious as some people deem that argument to be, people are already pushing for the acceptance of "transgender" people as being the opposite gender, or even claiming that gender is not binary. The amount of mental gymnastics involved with that is beyond me, but, it's happening. Who knows what will be next? In ten years, maybe people will sign into Nationstates and see a "is anyone really harmed by pedophile marriage?" thread. I hope that isn't the case.

If you'd like to see how homosexuals act when they're unopposed, feel free to Google zombietime.com's article on the Folsom Street Fair (Extremely NSFW and disturbing, browse it at your own risk.) Not to mention they produce abrasive homosexual propaganda aimed at children like this.

Fetishes are different. They're acquired. Homosexuality is, well, it's not really proven how exactly it happens, but one leading theory is that it's essentially a "birth defect" for lack of a better word. It happens when the proper hormonal wash of the brain during the pregnancy fails, and the child is born with part of their brain as the opposite gender, sort of. Specifically the part of the brain that determines sexual attraction. Some may not realize it until later in their lives which is partially why some think of it as an acquired or chosen fetish, but that appears to not be the case.

[Neutraligon]

Homosexuality is a sexual fetish. It doesn't deserve special recognition any more than pedophile or zoophile relationships do. Not to mention that broadening the definition of marriage is a slippery slope, as fallacious as some people deem that argument to be, people are already pushing for the acceptance of "transgender" people as being the opposite gender, or even claiming that gender is not binary. The amount of mental gymnastics involved with that is beyond me, but, it's happening. Who knows what will be next? In ten years, maybe people will sign into Nationstates and see a "is anyone really harmed by pedophile marriage?" thread. I hope that isn't the case.

If you'd like to see how homosexuals act when they're unopposed, feel free to Google zombietime.com's article on the Folsom Street Fair (Extremely NSFW and disturbing, browse it at your own risk.) Not to mention they produce abrasive homosexual propaganda aimed at children like this.

Thanks for showing us that you have absolutely no understanding regarding the many aspects of homosexuality and paraphilias. That, and an even more hilarious lack of understanding of basic logic and history. Not a single sentence in your entire post was truthful or relevant, and the lack of self-awareness on your part makes it all the more delightful to read.

Hey Liri should we invite this person to our sleepover?