Should Animal Bloodsports be Legal?

[Aquafireland]

Seriously, they are all cruel. Whoever made those sports is a fag.

[Freiheit Reich]

They should be legal but torturing the animals (such as rape devices for dogs) should not be allowed.

If the animals want to fight than let them fight. Animal fights occur in nature as well just as human fights occur.

A co-worker from Louisiana raised cocks for fighting. He even kept a photo of his cock in his locker. He said the cock was well fed and seemed proud of it. I am not sure what he is doing with his cocks now that Louisiana made cock-fighting illegal. I don't think he tortured his cock, especially since he made a lot of money from his cock.

It seems the fighting cock had a better life than most chickens which are raised for slaughter. We are fine with eating birds but not with letting them fight? Seems a bit odd.

[Katganistan]

Seriously, they are all cruel. Whoever made those sports is a fag.

*** Warned for trolling ***
Surely you know using a slur for homosexuals to describe something you find vile is a no-no?

It would we just as much a no-no if you referred to them as kikes, niggers, spics, wops, et cetera.

[German-Spanish Empire]

They should be legal but torturing the animals (such as rape devices for dogs) should not be allowed.

If the animals want to fight than let them fight. Animal fights occur in nature as well just as human fights occur.

A co-worker from Louisiana raised cocks for fighting. He even kept a photo of his cock in his locker. He said the cock was well fed and seemed proud of it. I am not sure what he is doing with his cocks now that Louisiana made cock-fighting illegal. I don't think he tortured his cock, especially since he made a lot of money from his cock.

It seems the fighting cock had a better life than most chickens which are raised for slaughter. We are fine with eating birds but not with letting them fight? Seems a bit odd.

Rape devices?

[Aquafireland]

Seriously, they are all cruel. Whoever made those sports is a fag.

*** Warned for trolling ***
Surely you know using a slur for homosexuals to describe something you find vile is a no-no?

It would we just as much a no-no if you referred to them as kikes, niggers, spics, wops, et cetera.

Ok sorry. I didn't know it was trolling.

[Freiheit Reich]

They should be legal but torturing the animals (such as rape devices for dogs) should not be allowed.

If the animals want to fight than let them fight. Animal fights occur in nature as well just as human fights occur.

A co-worker from Louisiana raised cocks for fighting. He even kept a photo of his cock in his locker. He said the cock was well fed and seemed proud of it. I am not sure what he is doing with his cocks now that Louisiana made cock-fighting illegal. I don't think he tortured his cock, especially since he made a lot of money from his cock.

It seems the fighting cock had a better life than most chickens which are raised for slaughter. We are fine with eating birds but not with letting them fight? Seems a bit odd.

Rape devices?

Sadly, yes:

http://www.examiner.com/article/police- ... isly-scene

http://www.aspca.org/about-us/press-rel ... ime-museum

Animal fights are OK, torturing them is not. If torturing them is the only way to make them fight then they should not be allowed.

Sadly, the ASPCA post shows several other cruel devices used on the dogs that I was not aware of.

[German-Spanish Empire]

Rape devices?

Sadly, yes:

http://www.examiner.com/article/police- ... isly-scene

http://www.aspca.org/about-us/press-rel ... ime-museum

Animal fights are OK, torturing them is not. If torturing them is the only way to make them fight then they should not be allowed.

Sadly, the ASPCA post shows several other cruel devices used on the dogs that I was not aware of.

Oh my...well when is comes to being humane,cockfighting is better...

[Northern Dominus]

They should be legal but torturing the animals (such as rape devices for dogs) should not be allowed.

If the animals want to fight than let them fight. Animal fights occur in nature as well just as human fights occur.

A co-worker from Louisiana raised cocks for fighting. He even kept a photo of his cock in his locker. He said the cock was well fed and seemed proud of it. I am not sure what he is doing with his cocks now that Louisiana made cock-fighting illegal. I don't think he tortured his cock, especially since he made a lot of money from his cock.

It seems the fighting cock had a better life than most chickens which are raised for slaughter. We are fine with eating birds but not with letting them fight? Seems a bit odd.

Because animals don't go out and deliberately pick fights without any sort of reason behind it. Again, animals almost always fight for food, mating, territory, or survival, and the ones that don't are by and large an abberation to the extreme rather than the rule. Unlike certain humans who seem to be foaming at the mouth for blood and mayhem because they're desensitized, no animal can consent to being put in a highly stressful condition after being patently abused and tortured into becoming a weapon.

Was this co-worker of yours equally willing to engage in to-the-death bareknuckle boxing matches or knife-fights?

[German-Spanish Empire]

They should be legal but torturing the animals (such as rape devices for dogs) should not be allowed.

If the animals want to fight than let them fight. Animal fights occur in nature as well just as human fights occur.

A co-worker from Louisiana raised cocks for fighting. He even kept a photo of his cock in his locker. He said the cock was well fed and seemed proud of it. I am not sure what he is doing with his cocks now that Louisiana made cock-fighting illegal. I don't think he tortured his cock, especially since he made a lot of money from his cock.

It seems the fighting cock had a better life than most chickens which are raised for slaughter. We are fine with eating birds but not with letting them fight? Seems a bit odd.

Because animals don't go out and deliberately pick fights without any sort of reason behind it. Again, animals almost always fight for food, mating, territory, or survival, and the ones that don't are by and large an abberation to the extreme rather than the rule. Unlike certain humans who seem to be foaming at the mouth for blood and mayhem because they're desensitized, no animal can consent to being put in a highly stressful condition after being patently abused and tortured into becoming a weapon.

Was this co-worker of yours equally willing to engage in to-the-death bareknuckle boxing matches or knife-fights?

Um...the chickens are fighting for survival...

[Northern Dominus]

Because animals don't go out and deliberately pick fights without any sort of reason behind it. Again, animals almost always fight for food, mating, territory, or survival, and the ones that don't are by and large an abberation to the extreme rather than the rule. Unlike certain humans who seem to be foaming at the mouth for blood and mayhem because they're desensitized, no animal can consent to being put in a highly stressful condition after being patently abused and tortured into becoming a weapon.

Was this co-worker of yours equally willing to engage in to-the-death bareknuckle boxing matches or knife-fights?

Um...the chickens are fighting for survival...

Actually, no they're not. Fighting roosters tear into each other with blades attached to their legs because they're systematically tortured and conditioned to do so. In essence they're brainwashed to be hyper-aggressive and antisocial to the point of basically being homicidal when they're cooped up with an equally homicidal bird.
I mean yes, left to their own devices two roosters in the same general vicinity might fight for breeding rights, but if they're not corralled and certainly if they're not conditioned in the aformentioned manner eventually things will be sorted out and one or the other will more often than not walk away after the squabble, and mating rights will have been determined.

Again, this is nothing but bloodlust for desnsitized assholes who are too cowardly to take matters into their own hands. If you're willing to inflict this sort of horror upon an animal then you'd better be willing to fight to the death with knives, axes, or your own fists.
If not then that's cowardice.

[German-Spanish Empire]

Um...the chickens are fighting for survival...

Actually, no they're not. Fighting roosters tear into each other with blades attached to their legs because they're systematically tortured and conditioned to do so. In essence they're brainwashed to be hyper-aggressive and antisocial to the point of basically being homicidal when they're cooped up with an equally homicidal bird.
I mean yes, left to their own devices two roosters in the same general vicinity might fight for breeding rights, but if they're not corralled and certainly if they're not conditioned in the aformentioned manner eventually things will be sorted out and one or the other will more often than not walk away after the squabble, and mating rights will have been determined.

Again, this is nothing but bloodlust for desnsitized assholes who are too cowardly to take matters into their own hands. If you're willing to inflict this sort of horror upon an animal then you'd better be willing to fight to the death with knives, axes, or your own fists.
If not then that's cowardice.

One thing I don't like is people sort of "putting down" other peoples opinions. That's like if I called "a group" of people that disagree with this hippy assholes...

[Northern Dominus]

Actually, no they're not. Fighting roosters tear into each other with blades attached to their legs because they're systematically tortured and conditioned to do so. In essence they're brainwashed to be hyper-aggressive and antisocial to the point of basically being homicidal when they're cooped up with an equally homicidal bird.
I mean yes, left to their own devices two roosters in the same general vicinity might fight for breeding rights, but if they're not corralled and certainly if they're not conditioned in the aformentioned manner eventually things will be sorted out and one or the other will more often than not walk away after the squabble, and mating rights will have been determined.

Again, this is nothing but bloodlust for desnsitized assholes who are too cowardly to take matters into their own hands. If you're willing to inflict this sort of horror upon an animal then you'd better be willing to fight to the death with knives, axes, or your own fists.
If not then that's cowardice.

One thing I don't like is people sort of "putting down" other peoples opinions. That's like if I called "a group" of people that disagree with this hippy assholes...

You may not like it, but you dangled it out there for the world to see and do whatever it likes with it whether you approve of not.

So how about it, if you're willing to throw a rooster or a dog into a no-escape situation and force them to fight to the death, are you also willing to subject yourself to fights to the death as well, either armed with rudimentary weapons or your own body?

[Coccygia]

He even kept a photo of his cock in his locker. I don't think he tortured his cock, especially since he made a lot of money from his cock.

[Geilinor]

If the animals want to fight than let them fight. Animal fights occur in nature as well just as human fights occur.

They don't want to fight. Animals fight in nature for food, habitat, expression of dominance, mates etc. Animals do not fight for fun. Attaching blades to an animal's legs and forcing it to fight is not natural. It's cruel and abusive.

[German-Spanish Empire]

One thing I don't like is people sort of "putting down" other peoples opinions. That's like if I called "a group" of people that disagree with this hippy assholes...

You may not like it, but you dangled it out there for the world to see and do whatever it likes with it whether you approve of not.

So how about it, if you're willing to throw a rooster or a dog into a no-escape situation and force them to fight to the death, are you also willing to subject yourself to fights to the death as well, either armed with rudimentary weapons or your own body?

I'll be more than glad to fight another human being,actually seems fun! PURGE TIME!!!

[Northern Dominus]

You may not like it, but you dangled it out there for the world to see and do whatever it likes with it whether you approve of not.

So how about it, if you're willing to throw a rooster or a dog into a no-escape situation and force them to fight to the death, are you also willing to subject yourself to fights to the death as well, either armed with rudimentary weapons or your own body?

I'll be more than glad to fight another human being,actually seems fun! PURGE TIME!!!

Good. Then you can go out and try to inflict as much mayhem and injury as you want. That's your choice, you consented to that.
Animals in no way consent to getting into a small space with no escape with another animal which might kill them, nor are they willing bloodthirsty combatants. Animals which are "trained" to fight are traumatized, damaged, horribly abused, and suffering, and the fighting and the resulting horror is the end result of another human inflicting those horrors upon it.

Since humans love this "tradition" so much, they can willingly participate and should. The more people that die in this manner, the better off the rest of us and any domesticated animal will be.

[Terrordome]

When I was working on a farm I shot rabbits as pest control but i also enjoyed it. But when I shot one we used to eat it for dinner so it's not that bad.

I find cockfighting and dogfighting extremely distasteful however and can't see why someone would enjoy that.

[Freiheit Reich]

If the animals want to fight than let them fight. Animal fights occur in nature as well just as human fights occur.

They don't want to fight. Animals fight in nature for food, habitat, expression of dominance, mates etc. Animals do not fight for fun.

I agree but many humans also fight each other for the reasons you mentioned. I bet most fights between humans are not for fun (which shows we aren't really much better than dogs, cats, or monkeys).

The animals would be fighting for food, mates and dominance. I am sure they are given incentives to fight. Eventually, many will be killed anyway so why not let the owners have them fight and let people have some entertainment? They could be together in a ring and even letting owners put blades on their claws is fine because the animals are still being given the choice to fight. I am against the torture aspects though. Beating and shocking animals that lose fights is not cool.

Banning torture might make the fights less interesting and less popular but I would allow the fighting to occur. I am moderate on this issue. If the animals want to fight when placed in a ring (and given weapons) than let them fight. Torture is not fair though.

[German-Spanish Empire]

I'll be more than glad to fight another human being,actually seems fun! PURGE TIME!!!

Good. Then you can go out and try to inflict as much mayhem and injury as you want. That's your choice, you consented to that.
Animals in no way consent to getting into a small space with no escape with another animal which might kill them, nor are they willing bloodthirsty combatants. Animals which are "trained" to fight are traumatized, damaged, horribly abused, and suffering, and the fighting and the resulting horror is the end result of another human inflicting those horrors upon it.

Since humans love this "tradition" so much, they can willingly participate and should. The more people that die in this manner, the better off the rest of us and any domesticated animal will be.

That's with dog fighting, in cockfighting (lawl) animals are only bred and trained to fight. When a cock (lawl) is bred to fight they are natural fighters.

[Northern Dominus]

They don't want to fight. Animals fight in nature for food, habitat, expression of dominance, mates etc. Animals do not fight for fun.

I agree but many humans also fight each other for the reasons you mentioned. I bet most fights between humans are not for fun (which shows we aren't really much better than dogs, cats, or monkeys).

The animals would be fighting for food, mates and dominance. I am sure they are given incentives to fight. Eventually, many will be killed anyway so why not let the owners have them fight and let people have some entertainment? They could be together in a ring and even letting owners put blades on their claws is fine because the animals are still being given the choice to fight. I am against the torture aspects though. Beating and shocking animals that lose fights is not cool.

Banning torture might make the fights less interesting and less popular but I would allow the fighting to occur. I am moderate on this issue. If the animals want to fight when placed in a ring (and given weapons) than let them fight. Torture is not fair though.

Except by "banning torture" as you so put it (which is really the only way animals become aggressive enough to fight another animal without much provocation), that essentially trumps virtually all forms of animal fighting. Left to their own devices roosters won't immediately fly at each other and start tearing away, and dogs won't start growling and lunging at each other either. Both are nominally social creatures, so they have to be confined in an inescapable situation and stressed to the point of fighting, which in and of itself is torture.

Again, animals can't consent to that no how much anyone insists that their fighting rooster or dog is a "natural warrior", and usually they're such cowards that even getting backhanded would probably make them curl up in the fetal position.

[German-Spanish Empire]

I agree but many humans also fight each other for the reasons you mentioned. I bet most fights between humans are not for fun (which shows we aren't really much better than dogs, cats, or monkeys).

The animals would be fighting for food, mates and dominance. I am sure they are given incentives to fight. Eventually, many will be killed anyway so why not let the owners have them fight and let people have some entertainment? They could be together in a ring and even letting owners put blades on their claws is fine because the animals are still being given the choice to fight. I am against the torture aspects though. Beating and shocking animals that lose fights is not cool.

Banning torture might make the fights less interesting and less popular but I would allow the fighting to occur. I am moderate on this issue. If the animals want to fight when placed in a ring (and given weapons) than let them fight. Torture is not fair though.

Except by "banning torture" as you so put it (which is really the only way animals become aggressive enough to fight another animal without much provocation), that essentially trumps virtually all forms of animal fighting. Left to their own devices roosters won't immediately fly at each other and start tearing away, and dogs won't start growling and lunging at each other either. Both are nominally social creatures, so they have to be confined in an inescapable situation and stressed to the point of fighting, which in and of itself is torture.

Again, animals can't consent to that no how much anyone insists that their fighting rooster or dog is a "natural warrior", and usually they're such cowards that even getting backhanded would probably make them curl up in the fetal position.

I want facts that gamecocks are provoked into fighting...

[Geilinor]

Good. Then you can go out and try to inflict as much mayhem and injury as you want. That's your choice, you consented to that.
Animals in no way consent to getting into a small space with no escape with another animal which might kill them, nor are they willing bloodthirsty combatants. Animals which are "trained" to fight are traumatized, damaged, horribly abused, and suffering, and the fighting and the resulting horror is the end result of another human inflicting those horrors upon it.

Since humans love this "tradition" so much, they can willingly participate and should. The more people that die in this manner, the better off the rest of us and any domesticated animal will be.

When a cock (lawl) is bred to fight they are natural fighters.

They still can't give consent to participate in fights to the death.

[Northern Dominus]

Good. Then you can go out and try to inflict as much mayhem and injury as you want. That's your choice, you consented to that.
Animals in no way consent to getting into a small space with no escape with another animal which might kill them, nor are they willing bloodthirsty combatants. Animals which are "trained" to fight are traumatized, damaged, horribly abused, and suffering, and the fighting and the resulting horror is the end result of another human inflicting those horrors upon it.

Since humans love this "tradition" so much, they can willingly participate and should. The more people that die in this manner, the better off the rest of us and any domesticated animal will be.

That's with dog fighting, in cockfighting (lawl) animals are only bred and trained to fight. When a cock (lawl) is bred to fight they are natural fighters.

There is no "breeding" for cockfighting. Chickens are nominally flocking animals, so that sort aggression isn't a desirable trait. Yes roosters might fight over hens once in awhile but extremely rarely to the death and never with razors on their legs.

There's nothing "natural" or "honorable" about raising any animal to be a fighter. It's nothing but sensationalism and desensitization by a collection of idiots who are too scared to fight themselves but have no problem inflicting such horrors upon animals that can't realistically fight back.

Notice how Tiger or Bear or Elephant fighting isn't a thing? It's because these animals can pretty handily kill a human the second they get shocked or prodded with a sharp object. So once again, training animals to fight is just plain cowardly.

[Geilinor]

*** Warned for trolling ***
Surely you know using a slur for homosexuals to describe something you find vile is a no-no?

It would we just as much a no-no if you referred to them as kikes, niggers, spics, wops, et cetera.

Ok sorry. I didn't know it was trolling.

What did you think? Using highly discriminatory terms isn't socially accepted.

[German-Spanish Empire]

When a cock (lawl) is bred to fight they are natural fighters.

They still can't give consent to participate in fights to the death.

Jesus,you guys just don't understand. If something is BRED to fight,if they see another cock,natural or not they ARE GOING TO FIGHT IT!