Should Animal Bloodsports be Legal?

[Threlizdun]

Yes, someone who displays no empathy towards these beings and derives pleasure from killing them is most certainly exhibiting psychopathic behavior.

No. Someone who dismembers a cat is exhibiting psychopathic behavior someone who hunts a deer is not.

They are killing for fun either way. Why is the person killing a deer not a psychopath when the person killing a cat is? That's just a cultural tendency against killing a commonly domesticated animal.

[Geilinor]

No. Someone who dismembers a cat is exhibiting psychopathic behavior someone who hunts a deer is not.

If they're hunting that deer for little more than their own amusement, then there isn't really a difference.

This.^ Shooting an animal for fun is still inflicting grievous bodily harm for amusement.

[Des-Bal]

What part of 'killing animals for amusement is a sign of serious mental illness or abuse' do you not understand?
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12108563
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12108563
http://www.humanesociety.org/issues/abu ... n_faq.html

The part where recreational fishing and hunting are considered to be a sign of psychotic behavior no matter how poorly you try to apply sources.

[Des-Bal]

No. Someone who dismembers a cat is exhibiting psychopathic behavior someone who hunts a deer is not.

They are killing for fun either way. Why is the person killing a deer not a psychopath when the person killing a cat is? That's just a cultural tendency against killing a commonly domesticated animal.[/quote]

So you're saying recreational hunting is psychotic behavior?

[Des-Bal]

Then don't use that logic.

Let me rephrase; that in no way shape or form resembles logic.

[Threlizdun]

So you're saying recreational hunting is psychotic behavior?

Killing for fun is psychotic, yes.

[Vareiln]

What part of 'killing animals for amusement is a sign of serious mental illness or abuse' do you not understand?
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12108563
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12108563
http://www.humanesociety.org/issues/abu ... n_faq.html

The part where recreational fishing and hunting are considered to be a sign of psychotic behavior no matter how poorly you try to apply sources.

If it's for entertainment, that is cruelty in and of itself. Animal cruelty is a sign of psychotic behavior.
Really, I could express this in symbolic logic and it wouldn't be any simpler.

[Des-Bal]

Killing for fun is psychotic, yes.

Good I no longer have to take you seriously.

[Des-Bal]

If it's for entertainment, that is cruelty in and of itself. Animal cruelty is a sign of psychotic behavior.
Really, I could express this in symbolic logic and it wouldn't be any simpler.

Bull. Shit.

[Anachronous Rex]

The only cockfighting I support involves steamy man-on-man romance.

[Arcturus Novus]

HELL NO. These animals have done nothing to deserve such a fate.

[Threlizdun]

Killing for fun is psychotic, yes.

Good I no longer have to take you seriously.

As a consistent rape apologist, individual who refuses to accept others for their gender identity because you personally don't feel like recognizing it, and supporter of killing sentient beings for fun, I'm really having to wonder why anyone takes you seriously.

[Geilinor]

Killing for fun is psychotic, yes.

Good I no longer have to take you seriously.

I can quote more sources. http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/741856.stm
http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2005/aug/11/ukcrime.animalwelfare

[Des-Bal]

As a consistent rape apologist, individual who refuses to accept others for their gender identity because you personally don't feel like recognizing it, and supporter of killing sentient beings for fun, I'm really having to wonder why anyone takes you seriously.

Because questioning bad laws, refusing to sacrifice logic in the name of political connectivity, and recognizing the difference between recreation and psychopathic behavior are things to be applauded.

[Des-Bal]

I can quote more sources. http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/741856.stm
http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2005/aug/11/ukcrime.animalwelfare

Find me one that says recreational hunting and fishing are psychotic behavior.

[Geilinor]

I can quote more sources. http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/741856.stm
http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2005/aug/11/ukcrime.animalwelfare

Find me one that says recreational hunting and fishing are psychotic behavior.

What's the difference between maiming for amusement and hunting for amusement?

[Des-Bal]

What's the difference between maiming for amusement and hunting for amusement?

Could you not find a source for that?

[Vareiln]

If it's for entertainment, that is cruelty in and of itself. Animal cruelty is a sign of psychotic behavior.
Really, I could express this in symbolic logic and it wouldn't be any simpler.

Bull. Shit.

Alright, let's try it.
I represents hunting/fishing/whatever
E represents entertainment
C represents cruelty
P represents psychopathic behavior.

E→C
C→P
(I∧P)↔(I∧E)

[Des-Bal]

Alright, let's try it.
I represents hunting/fishing/whatever
E represents entertainment
C represents cruelty
P represents psychopathic behavior.

E→C
C→P
(I∧P)↔(I∧E)

Except neither hunting nor fishing are cruelty.

[Vareiln]

Alright, let's try it.
I represents hunting/fishing/whatever
E represents entertainment
C represents cruelty
P represents psychopathic behavior.

E→C
C→P
(I∧P)↔(I∧E)

Except neither hunting nor fishing are cruelty.

How the flying fuck did you not get that?
Here, I'll explain it:
If you're killing for entertainment, then it's cruelty.
If it's cruelty, then it's a sign of psychopathic behavior.
Hunting/fishing/whatever is a sign of psychopathic behavior if and only if the hunting/fishing/whatever is for entertainment.

Really, it's that simple.

[Arcturus Novus]

Alright, let's try it.
I represents hunting/fishing/whatever
E represents entertainment
C represents cruelty
P represents psychopathic behavior.

E→C
C→P
(I∧P)↔(I∧E)

Except neither hunting nor fishing are cruelty.

There's no point in hunting/fishing if you don't plan on utilising or selling the materials it provided. The First Americans held that belief for millenia.

[New Frenco Empire]

Alright, let's try it.
I represents hunting/fishing/whatever
E represents entertainment
C represents cruelty
P represents psychopathic behavior.

E→C
C→P
(I∧P)↔(I∧E)

Except neither hunting nor fishing are cruelty.

It really depends on opinions. Some think it's cruelty, others not so much. I don't hunt, but I occasionally like fishing. Fish really aren't as sentient as deer.

I'm not a fan of hunting, but thinking anyone who hunts is a psychopath is asinine.

[Geilinor]

What's the difference between maiming for amusement and hunting for amusement?

Could you not find a source for that?

I'm asking your opinion. I think that harming sentient animals simply for amusement could be a sign of a psychological problem. I don't care if it's maiming or hunting, a sentient being is still dying due to zoosadism.

[Des-Bal]

How the flying fuck did you not get that?
Here, I'll explain it:
If you're killing for entertainment, then it's cruelty.
If it's cruelty, then it's a sign of psychopathic behavior.
Hunting/fishing/whatever is a sign of psychopathic behavior if and only if the hunting/fishing/whatever is for entertainment.

Really, it's that simple.

Let me explain this to you; find me a source that says recreational fishing and hunting are signs of psychopathy. I do not respect your credentials on the matter.

[Vareiln]

Except neither hunting nor fishing are cruelty.

It really depends on opinions. Some think it's cruelty, others not so much. I don't hunt, but I occasionally like fishing. Fish really aren't as sentient as deer.

I'm not a fan of hunting, but thinking anyone who hunts is a psychopath is asinine.

Except I never said that "anyone who hunts is a psychopath".
Nice try, though.
Also, sentience isn't a qualifier for cruelty.