Archbishop Tutu "won't worship homophobic god"

by **Rupudska** » Sat Jul 27, 2013 4:45 pm

I've never heard of this guy, and already I like him.

by **Fartsniffage** » Sat Jul 27, 2013 4:45 pm

Yumyumsuppertime wrote:
Agorya wrote:Bargain with the devil, Mr. Tutu.

I'm going to go ahead and suspect that God's with the man who has spent his entire career fighting for basic human rights.

The same god who "wrote" the old testament? Floods, rape, slavery and sacrifices.....it's a bit of a coin toss really.

by **Hurdegaryp** » Sat Jul 27, 2013 4:45 pm

Tagmatium wrote:
Napkiraly wrote:I knew he supported LGBT rights, but not this strongly. Damn, you go Mr. Tutu.

Basically.

Desmond Tutu is perhaps one of the best people.

Absolutely. If Christianity in general had the same vibe as archbishop Tutu, I might very well still have been a Christian myself. The world needs more people like Tutu.

by **New Libertarian States** » Sat Jul 27, 2013 4:46 pm

I have never heard of this man, and I already respect and praise him for his work.

by **Quintium** » Sat Jul 27, 2013 4:47 pm

Leviticus 20:13 wants a word with Archbishop Tutu.
As always, it's the fundamentalists who are right about theological matters.

by **Blasveck** » Sat Jul 27, 2013 4:48 pm

Quintium wrote:Leviticus 20:13 wants a word with Archbishop Tutu.
As always, it's the fundamentalists who are right about theological matters.

Tutu is better than that.

by **Slafstopia** » Sat Jul 27, 2013 4:48 pm

Quintium wrote:Leviticus 20:13 wants a word with Archbishop Tutu.
As always, it's the fundamentalists who are right about theological matters.

Leviticus also bans tattoos and seafood.

Plus, people ignore that Exodus bans you from covetting a man's ass anyway.

by **Tagmatium** » Sat Jul 27, 2013 4:50 pm

How the fuck have people not heard of Tutu?

by **Quintium** » Sat Jul 27, 2013 4:51 pm

Blasveck wrote:
Quintium wrote:Leviticus 20:13 wants a word with Archbishop Tutu.
As always, it's the fundamentalists who are right about theological matters.

Tutu is better than that.

If he's better than the Bible, then why is he an archbishop? He could be the second coming of Christ. But I hope not, because I'm irreligious, and the second coming of Christ would be a bad sign for me. Seriously, though, the fundamentalists are usually right about theological matters. And if Desmond Tutu is against homophobia, then he shouldn't call himself a christian any more than someone who tolerates polytheism should call themselves a muslim.

by **Bottle** » Sat Jul 27, 2013 4:52 pm

Quintium wrote:Leviticus 20:13 wants a word with Archbishop Tutu.
As always, it's the fundamentalists who are right about theological matters.

See? This is what I mean.

Ok, so the Christian God want you to murder fags. That sounds like a great reason to NOT WORSHIP THAT GOD, doesn't it? I mean, what if you encountered a God who wanted you to murder children?

Oh. Wait. Don't answer that.

Deuteronomy 17:12
Exodus 21:15
Leviticus 20:9
Deuteronomy 22:20-21
2 Kings 2:23-24

by **Bottle** » Sat Jul 27, 2013 4:54 pm

Tagmatium wrote:How the fuck have people not heard of Tutu?

by **Hurdegaryp** » Sat Jul 27, 2013 4:54 pm

Slafstopia wrote:
Quintium wrote:Leviticus 20:13 wants a word with Archbishop Tutu.
As always, it's the fundamentalists who are right about theological matters.

Leviticus also bans tattoos and seafood.

Plus, people ignore that Exodus bans you from covetting a man's ass anyway.

The Old Testament also tells us that those who do not worship the one true God should be murdered. This includes Christians with their stealth trinity polytheism. Eaters of swine are also horrible, horrible sinners. Got bacon?

But utterly obsolete rules from ancient desert tribes aside, it seems most of us can agree that bishop Tutu is a good person.

by **Hurdegaryp** » Sat Jul 27, 2013 4:57 pm

Tagmatium wrote:How the fuck have people not heard of Tutu?

Oh, that's simple. Quite a few of the younger ones amongst us have not heard about bishop Tutu because they didn't grow up in a world where apartheid was a thing. Kids these days, amirite?

by **Wolfmanne** » Sat Jul 27, 2013 4:59 pm

Quintium wrote:Leviticus 20:13 wants a word with Archbishop Tutu.
As always, it's the fundamentalists who are right about theological matters.

The Bible shouldn't be taken literally. It is open to interpretation due to the vast amount of contradictions (if Phoenix Wright existed back then he would have a field day). All you have to do is a bit of theology and work it out for yourself.

by **Tagmatium** » Sat Jul 27, 2013 4:59 pm

Bottle wrote:
Tagmatium wrote:How the fuck have people not heard of Tutu?

I'm 25 - by the time I became aware and out of the bubble that people exist in at young ages, I was aware of Desmond Tutu.

If you're older than me and don't know of this chap, hang your head in shame. If you're younger, fucking learn about him.

by **Wolfmanne** » Sat Jul 27, 2013 4:59 pm

Tagmatium wrote:
Bottle wrote:

I'm 25 - by the time I became aware and out of the bubble that people exist in at young ages, I was aware of Desmond Tutu.

If you're older than me and don't know of this chap, hang your head in shame. If you're younger, fucking learn about him.

I knew who he was at 9.

by **Ostroeuropa** » Sat Jul 27, 2013 5:04 pm

Bottle wrote:
Quintium wrote:Leviticus 20:13 wants a word with Archbishop Tutu.
As always, it's the fundamentalists who are right about theological matters.

See? This is what I mean.

Ok, so the Christian God want you to murder fags. That sounds like a great reason to NOT WORSHIP THAT GOD, doesn't it? I mean, what if you encountered a God who wanted you to murder children?

Oh. Wait. Don't answer that.

Deuteronomy 17:12
Exodus 21:15
Leviticus 20:9
Deuteronomy 22:20-21
2 Kings 2:23-24

It's a big reason that there is the distinction of anti-theist.
Not only is god a non-entity, we should be glad of that fact.
I'd hope i'd have the moral fibre to stand with people like Hitchens and Stephen Fry who've said pretty plainly that if they died and found the christian god, they'd still refuse to worship him based on his immorality and the debasing nature of worship in the first place.

by **TaQud** » Sat Jul 27, 2013 5:06 pm

damn he's 81? :eek:

by **Yumyumsuppertime** » Sat Jul 27, 2013 5:07 pm

Fartsniffage wrote:
Yumyumsuppertime wrote:
I'm going to go ahead and suspect that God's with the man who has spent his entire career fighting for basic human rights.

The same god who "wrote" the old testament? Floods, rape, slavery and sacrifices.....it's a bit of a coin toss really.

Our conception of God changes and evolves over time. Those who hold onto the words and beliefs of those who grappled with the subject thousands of years ago, and ignore new understandings and insights since then, are limited and limiting. It is possible that we are inspired to seek God. I find it odd at best to believe that our finite minds have ever completely grasped an infinite concept, and even odder to believe that we have learned nothing new since we first began to consider the subject.

Again, we may be divinely inspired to seek. However, we should not mistake everything we find in this search as divine inspiration.

by **Yumyumsuppertime** » Sat Jul 27, 2013 5:08 pm

Quintium wrote:Leviticus 20:13 wants a word with Archbishop Tutu.
As always, it's the fundamentalists who are right about theological matters.

Tutu is a Levite?

by **Hurdegaryp** » Sat Jul 27, 2013 5:11 pm

Yumyumsuppertime wrote:
Quintium wrote:Leviticus 20:13 wants a word with Archbishop Tutu.
As always, it's the fundamentalists who are right about theological matters.

Tutu is a Levite?

No, not at all. Or where you asking a rhetorical question?

by **Yumyumsuppertime** » Sat Jul 27, 2013 5:13 pm

Hurdegaryp wrote:
Yumyumsuppertime wrote:Tutu is a Levite?

No, not at all. Or where you asking a rhetorical question?

A tongue in cheek one, but yes, it was essentially rhetorical.

by **Hurdegaryp** » Sat Jul 27, 2013 5:14 pm

Yumyumsuppertime wrote:
Hurdegaryp wrote:No, not at all. Or where you asking a rhetorical question?

A tongue in cheek one, but yes, it was essentially rhetorical.

Those do not always work as intended in internet forums, hence my question.

by **Aravea** » Sat Jul 27, 2013 5:17 pm

Slafstopia wrote:
Quintium wrote:Leviticus 20:13 wants a word with Archbishop Tutu.
As always, it's the fundamentalists who are right about theological matters.

Leviticus also bans tattoos and seafood.

Plus, people ignore that Exodus bans you from covetting a man's ass anyway.

You guys haven't read the new testament have you?

by **Bleckonia** » Sat Jul 27, 2013 5:17 pm

Divair wrote:Desmond Tutu is amazing.

Agreed. He's one of my favorite figures of all time, maybe besides Nelson Mandela.

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