*United Nations* launches **worldwide** gay rights campaign

[Geilinor]

Didn't Jesus say to love your neighbour and your 'enemy'? If you're not even following his BASIC commandments, then you're not really a Christian, are you?

He also said to leave to Caesar what is Caesar's.

I mean, that's a quite big endorsment of secularism and state and church separation.

The Bible also says to follow secular rule and governance.

1 Peter 2:13 "Submit yourself to every ordinance of man . . . to the king, as supreme; Or unto governors."

[Cadaver breadsticks]

1 Cor. 6:9-10 was a mistranslation of temple prostitutes, I believe.
Can't speak for the others since it's been a while since I last studied a bible.

If that is true, the others clearly condemn it.

I know one of those was also a mistranslation because the writer of that part created a new word without specifying its meaning, instead of using an already common word for homosexuals. I can't recall which, though. :/ The Leviticus parts, though, don't seem to hold standing since so many Christians ignore the rest of the chapter; and it would be unfair to ignore all but one clause, no?

[Blasveck]

1 Cor. 6:9-10 was a mistranslation of temple prostitutes, I believe.
Can't speak for the others since it's been a while since I last studied a bible.

If that is true, the others clearly condemn it.

Sorry, but our laws will not be based on the Bible. It never will.

[Rocopurr]

Your marriage certificate 'doesn't mean anything'........?
:rofl:

The marriage certificate is a meaningless State created artificial piece of shit.

A lot of people seem to forget the legal benefits of marriage in these sorts of threads.

[Liriena]

Your marriage certificate 'doesn't mean anything'........?

The marriage certificate is a meaningless State created artificial piece of shit.

Not really. It's the legal document that ensures that you can have joint custody of your children with your spouse, and that you can visit said spouse at the hospital, for starters.

[Vazdania]

And they are wrong.

EDIT: Ninja clowns!

Lev. 18:22, "You shall not lie with a male as one lies with a female; it is an abomination."1
Lev. 20:13, "If there is a man who lies with a male as those who lie with a woman, both of them have committed a detestable act; they shall surely be put to death. Their bloodguiltness is upon them"
1 Cor. 6:9-10, "Or do you not know that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived; neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor homosexuals, 10nor thieves, nor the covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor swindlers, shall inherit the kingdom of God."
Rom. 1:26-28, "For this reason God gave them over to degrading passions; for their women exchanged the natural function for that which is unnatural, 27 and in the same way also the men abandoned the natural function of the woman and burned in their desire toward one another, men with men committing indecent acts and receiving in their own persons the due penalty of their error. 28 And just as they did not see fit to acknowledge God any longer, God gave them over to a depraved mind, to do those things which are not proper."

What about these versus that condemn homosexuality?

Yea....about that Leviticus only applies to Jews.

[Threlizdun]

Doesn't change the fact that it's still a legally binding piece of paper, and one of the most comprehensive pieces of legislation in terms of human rights ever written.

If you want to live in a world where the freedom to vote, think, speak, love or live as you please is open to arbitrary restrictions, be my guest. I for one like knowing that there's legally binding documents that explicitly say I can't be killed because of my religion, ethnicity, ideology or sexual orientation, and that I have the right to oppose my own government and any political or religious faction that would rather see me dead than living happily.

I don't think so .

I don't think christians want to kill gays just because they are against LGBT Rights .

By opposing this, you are supporting allowing these nations and groups to continue killing people because of their sexual orientation or gender idenity.

[Luveria]

1 Cor. 6:9-10 was a mistranslation of temple prostitutes, I believe.
Can't speak for the others since it's been a while since I last studied a bible.

If that is true, the others clearly condemn it.

Should we start basing laws off of religious texts like the Quran, or only the Bible?

[Vazdania]

The marriage certificate is a meaningless State created artificial piece of shit.

A lot of people seem to forget the legal benefits of marriage in these sorts of threads.

Again, completely artificial.

[Need a Name]

Shut up. We're not radicals like them.

You're exactly like them.

Stop being an idiot, he isn't a radical.

[Luveria]

The marriage certificate is a meaningless State created artificial piece of shit.

A lot of people seem to forget the legal benefits of marriage in these sorts of threads.

They only forget it when it involves same-sex marriages.

[Vazdania]

If that is true, the others clearly condemn it.

Should we start basing laws off of religious texts like the Quran, or only the Bible?

That would be great.

[Bundesdeutschland]

Shut up. We're not radicals like them.

Then why are you against the UN's campaign? LGBT people are sometimes executed and often imprisoned. You want to allow Taliban-like exremism to occur.

Okay, maybe things like that are a little extreme. But I don't support LGBT "rights" nonetheless. But I'm guessing this will pass because Armageddon is approaching so I think I'd best let things be...and let others do the work.

[Blasveck]

A lot of people seem to forget the legal benefits of marriage in these sorts of threads.

Again, completely artificial.

And your point is?

[Vazdania]

You're exactly like them.

Stop being an idiot, he isn't a radical.

[Genivaria]

Should we start basing laws off of religious texts like the Quran, or only the Bible?

That would be great.

Satanic Bible it is!

[Geilinor]

A lot of people seem to forget the legal benefits of marriage in these sorts of threads.

Again, completely artificial.

Your point? Someone wrote the Bible, just like someone wrote the law granting marriage benefits.

[Luveria]

You're exactly like them.

Stop being an idiot, he isn't a radical.

He shares the same views putting religious beliefs on sexual orientation before established medical evidence.

[Liriena]

Doesn't change the fact that it's still a legally binding piece of paper, and one of the most comprehensive pieces of legislation in terms of human rights ever written.

If you want to live in a world where the freedom to vote, think, speak, love or live as you please is open to arbitrary restrictions, be my guest. I for one like knowing that there's legally binding documents that explicitly say I can't be killed because of my religion, ethnicity, ideology or sexual orientation, and that I have the right to oppose my own government and any political or religious faction that would rather see me dead than living happily.

I don't think so .

I don't think christians want to kill gays just because they are against LGBT Rights .

You don't think so? Well, then you really need to make plans to move to a parallel universe, then.

Also...if you think that there's no Christians that want to kill homosexuals, then you really need a reality check. Feel free to start with Uganda.

[Agorya]

It's (the Bible) mostly a philosophical argument that is contrary to the widely accepted postmodernist Rawlsian philosophical arguments of the 20th and 21st century. Trying to argue your case seems sort of futile, esp. when neither side will be giving their ground.

Those versus was to the person that thought the bible didn't condemn homosexuality.

I know. I'd just rather you save your breath, and not start anything unnecessary.

[Threlizdun]

Haha there is no say that 1 man and 1 man of marriagble age are to marry. You just quotet the opposite what you said. Yet the document clearly says marriagble woman and man.

In other word homo marriages are not right. The european court confirmsvthat.

No, it says that men and women of marriagable age can marry. In other words, men of marriagable age have the right to marry someone and women of marriagable age have the right to marry someone.

[Vazdania]

Again, completely artificial.

And your point is?

There is no point I'm trying to make...I was just stating my opinion, which you needn't consider relevant.

[Liriena]

Nowhere does it say 1 man and 1 woman.

Haha there is no say that 1 man and 1 man of marriagble age are to marry. You just quotet the opposite what you said. Yet the document clearly says marriagble woman and man.

In other word homo marriages are not right. The european court confirmsvthat.

English, please!

[Scholencia]

Well also not all speaking humans are real humans, although they might think that they are intelligent.

Did you just invert your logic? I'm rather confused by what you're trying to say here; and your lack of clarity isn't really helping one bit.

What do you want to know? Are gays humans or what? I cannot also to see your point.

[Rocopurr]

If that is true, the others clearly condemn it.

Should we start basing laws off of religious texts like the Quran, or only the Bible?

Can I make my own religios book, and then change the law according to what it says?

A lot of people seem to forget the legal benefits of marriage in these sorts of threads.

They only forget it when it involves same-sex marriages.

That is what I meant by these sorts of threads.