*United Nations* launches **worldwide** gay rights campaign

[Bundesdeutschland]

No you are insulting Christians by stating we live in a Taliban's Fantasyland .

Why? You appear to agree with the Taliban that what recognized governments, international organizations, or health professionals say about homosexuality is irrelevent when your religious beliefs are in question.

Shut up. We're not radicals like them.

[Genivaria]

Yes, it is. Marriage doesn't receive any benefits unless the government recognizes it. You get a civil marriage certificate to be officially married. You can't list yourself as married on documentation unless the government has recorded it.

What is the difference? It is just a stupid paper that does not mean anything.

Your marriage certificate 'doesn't mean anything'........?

[Liriena]

Nope.

You really should start living in reality.

I am.

Sorry, but saying that the Bible 'clearly states that homosexuality is a sin' is either a sign of delusion or mythomania.

The Bible never explicitly calls homosexuality as we know it today a sin. And the only time it comes even remotely close to saying so only applied to Jews.

[Cadaver breadsticks]

And they are wrong.

EDIT: Ninja clowns!

Lev. 18:22, "You shall not lie with a male as one lies with a female; it is an abomination."1
Lev. 20:13, "If there is a man who lies with a male as those who lie with a woman, both of them have committed a detestable act; they shall surely be put to death. Their bloodguiltness is upon them"
1 Cor. 6:9-10, "Or do you not know that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived; neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor homosexuals, 10nor thieves, nor the covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor swindlers, shall inherit the kingdom of God."
Rom. 1:26-28, "For this reason God gave them over to degrading passions; for their women exchanged the natural function for that which is unnatural, 27 and in the same way also the men abandoned the natural function of the woman and burned in their desire toward one another, men with men committing indecent acts and receiving in their own persons the due penalty of their error. 28 And just as they did not see fit to acknowledge God any longer, God gave them over to a depraved mind, to do those things which are not proper."

What about these versus that condemn homosexuality?

1 Cor. 6:9-10 was a mistranslation of temple prostitutes, I believe.
Can't speak for the others since it's been a while since I last studied a bible.

[Geilinor]

Many Christians support LGBT rights.

And many DON'T.

It only insults Christian faith according to homophobes. Other Christians believe that it is compatible with Christianity, hence not insulting.

[Edlichbury]

I have the right to criticize religious fundamentalism as the dangerous piece of shit it is, and that includes Christian fundamentalism.

By the way, thanks for ignoring the fact that I actually responded to your lousy "you can be happy without marriage" argument.

No you are insulting Christians by stating we live in a Taliban's Fantasyland .

Only those that live in the Fantasyland that gays don't deserve rights.

[Agritum]

I am.

Sorry, but saying that the Bible 'clearly states that homosexuality is a sin' is either a sign of delusion or mythomania.

The Bible never explicitly calls homosexuality as we know it today a sin. And the only time it comes even remotely close to saying so only applied to Jews.

And in a passage which prohibits them from wearing clothes of two different materials.

[Liriena]

I have the right to criticize religious fundamentalism as the dangerous piece of shit it is, and that includes Christian fundamentalism.

By the way, thanks for ignoring the fact that I actually responded to your lousy "you can be happy without marriage" argument.

No you are insulting Christians by stating we live in a Taliban's Fantasyland .

Don't put words in my mouth.

[Threlizdun]

Because you say so?

No, because health professionals have observed the effects of such beliefs on sentient wellbeing, and it has been proven to greatly worsen it. Therefore, we can say with complete confidence that those who believe homosexuality is wrong are actually in the wrong themselves.

[Lupelia]

Many Christians support LGBT rights.

And many DON'T.

Didn't Jesus say to love your neighbour and your 'enemy'? If you're not even following his BASIC commandments, then you're not really a Christian, are you?

[Liriena]

Why? You appear to agree with the Taliban that what recognized governments, international organizations, or health professionals say about homosexuality is irrelevent when your religious beliefs are in question.

Shut up. We're not radicals like them.

Actually, you kinda are, since you are openly advocating for the violation of the rights of LGBT people. The only difference is the book you claim to base your sentiments on.

[Agorya]

And they are wrong.

EDIT: Ninja clowns!

Lev. 18:22, "You shall not lie with a male as one lies with a female; it is an abomination."1
Lev. 20:13, "If there is a man who lies with a male as those who lie with a woman, both of them have committed a detestable act; they shall surely be put to death. Their bloodguiltness is upon them"
1 Cor. 6:9-10, "Or do you not know that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived; neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor homosexuals, 10nor thieves, nor the covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor swindlers, shall inherit the kingdom of God."
Rom. 1:26-28, "For this reason God gave them over to degrading passions; for their women exchanged the natural function for that which is unnatural, 27 and in the same way also the men abandoned the natural function of the woman and burned in their desire toward one another, men with men committing indecent acts and receiving in their own persons the due penalty of their error. 28 And just as they did not see fit to acknowledge God any longer, God gave them over to a depraved mind, to do those things which are not proper."

What about these versus that condemn homosexuality?

It's (the Bible) mostly a philosophical argument that is contrary to the widely accepted postmodernist Rawlsian philosophical arguments of the 20th and 21st century. Trying to argue your case seems sort of futile, esp. when neither side will be giving their ground.

[Napkiraly]

Because the UDHR says so, seriously try to keep up.

I don't recognize that piece of paper legality to decide what is right or not .

You may not agree with it, but if you break the laws of it, be prepared to be brought before the judiciary. That's how laws work.

[Need a Name]

Lev. 18:22, "You shall not lie with a male as one lies with a female; it is an abomination."1
Lev. 20:13, "If there is a man who lies with a male as those who lie with a woman, both of them have committed a detestable act; they shall surely be put to death. Their bloodguiltness is upon them"
1 Cor. 6:9-10, "Or do you not know that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived; neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor homosexuals, 10nor thieves, nor the covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor swindlers, shall inherit the kingdom of God."
Rom. 1:26-28, "For this reason God gave them over to degrading passions; for their women exchanged the natural function for that which is unnatural, 27 and in the same way also the men abandoned the natural function of the woman and burned in their desire toward one another, men with men committing indecent acts and receiving in their own persons the due penalty of their error. 28 And just as they did not see fit to acknowledge God any longer, God gave them over to a depraved mind, to do those things which are not proper."

What about these versus that condemn homosexuality?

1 Cor. 6:9-10 was a mistranslation of temple prostitutes, I believe.
Can't speak for the others since it's been a while since I last studied a bible.

If that is true, the others clearly condemn it.

[Threlizdun]

Why? You appear to agree with the Taliban that what recognized governments, international organizations, or health professionals say about homosexuality is irrelevent when your religious beliefs are in question.

Shut up. We're not radicals like them.

So are you accepting the position of the UN, developed nation-states, and health professionals on the issue and admitting that nothing is wrong about homosexuality then?

[Druach]

I'm sorry, who appointed you king of the Christian morality? Because I greatly disagree with you about gay marriage and yet am a Christian.

Read your Bible. It clearly states that homosexuality is a sin. And another thing, I still hate the UN for this.

Because the Bible is clearly a 100% accurate source of truthful, no-doubt-about-it information on what's "bad".
Leviticus 18:22 is about the same-sex relationships that were use to worship Caananite deities. Please read the whole chapter, and not just a verse.
The Jewish commentator Bamberger, in his commentary on Leviticus, mentions that there is no record of the death sentence being carried out by Jewish people for violating this prohibition.
Bible scholars are still uncertain about why Sodom and Gomorrah were destroyed.
When these so-called "homosexual" men entered Lot's home, he offered them his DAUGHTERS. What?

Please try to find an up-to-date source on the morality of homosexuality before arguing.
Have a nice day!

[Agritum]

And many DON'T.

Didn't Jesus say to love your neighbour and your 'enemy'? If you're not even following his BASIC commandments, then you're not really a Christian, are you?

He also said to leave to Caesar what is Caesar's.

I mean, that's a quite big endorsment of secularism and state and church separation.

[Need a Name]

Lev. 18:22, "You shall not lie with a male as one lies with a female; it is an abomination."1
Lev. 20:13, "If there is a man who lies with a male as those who lie with a woman, both of them have committed a detestable act; they shall surely be put to death. Their bloodguiltness is upon them"
1 Cor. 6:9-10, "Or do you not know that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived; neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor homosexuals, 10nor thieves, nor the covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor swindlers, shall inherit the kingdom of God."
Rom. 1:26-28, "For this reason God gave them over to degrading passions; for their women exchanged the natural function for that which is unnatural, 27 and in the same way also the men abandoned the natural function of the woman and burned in their desire toward one another, men with men committing indecent acts and receiving in their own persons the due penalty of their error. 28 And just as they did not see fit to acknowledge God any longer, God gave them over to a depraved mind, to do those things which are not proper."

What about these versus that condemn homosexuality?

It's (the Bible) mostly a philosophical argument that is contrary to the widely accepted postmodernist Rawlsian philosophical arguments of the 20th and 21st century. Trying to argue your case seems sort of futile, esp. when neither side will be giving their ground.

Those versus was to the person that thought the bible didn't condemn homosexuality.

[Luveria]

Why? You appear to agree with the Taliban that what recognized governments, international organizations, or health professionals say about homosexuality is irrelevent when your religious beliefs are in question.

Shut up. We're not radicals like them.

You're exactly like them.

[Geilinor]

Why? You appear to agree with the Taliban that what recognized governments, international organizations, or health professionals say about homosexuality is irrelevent when your religious beliefs are in question.

Shut up. We're not radicals like them.

Then why are you against the UN's campaign? LGBT people are sometimes executed and often imprisoned. You want to allow Taliban-like exremism to occur.

[Liriena]

And they are wrong.

EDIT: Ninja clowns!

Lev. 18:22, "You shall not lie with a male as one lies with a female; it is an abomination."1
Lev. 20:13, "If there is a man who lies with a male as those who lie with a woman, both of them have committed a detestable act; they shall surely be put to death. Their bloodguiltness is upon them"
1 Cor. 6:9-10, "Or do you not know that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived; neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor homosexuals, 10nor thieves, nor the covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor swindlers, shall inherit the kingdom of God."
Rom. 1:26-28, "For this reason God gave them over to degrading passions; for their women exchanged the natural function for that which is unnatural, 27 and in the same way also the men abandoned the natural function of the woman and burned in their desire toward one another, men with men committing indecent acts and receiving in their own persons the due penalty of their error. 28 And just as they did not see fit to acknowledge God any longer, God gave them over to a depraved mind, to do those things which are not proper."

What about these versus that condemn homosexuality?

Leviticus only applies to Jews.
Corinthians is mistranslated, and blatantly so.
Romans should be read in the context of the entire chapter. It's about pagan idolatry through sex, not homosexuality in general.

[Vazdania]

What is the difference? It is just a stupid paper that does not mean anything.

Your marriage certificate 'doesn't mean anything'........?

The marriage certificate is a meaningless State created artificial piece of shit.

[Bundesdeutschland]

Lev. 18:22, "You shall not lie with a male as one lies with a female; it is an abomination."1
Lev. 20:13, "If there is a man who lies with a male as those who lie with a woman, both of them have committed a detestable act; they shall surely be put to death. Their bloodguiltness is upon them"
1 Cor. 6:9-10, "Or do you not know that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived; neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor homosexuals, 10nor thieves, nor the covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor swindlers, shall inherit the kingdom of God."
Rom. 1:26-28, "For this reason God gave them over to degrading passions; for their women exchanged the natural function for that which is unnatural, 27 and in the same way also the men abandoned the natural function of the woman and burned in their desire toward one another, men with men committing indecent acts and receiving in their own persons the due penalty of their error. 28 And just as they did not see fit to acknowledge God any longer, God gave them over to a depraved mind, to do those things which are not proper."

What about these versus that condemn homosexuality?

Yes. Everyone is illegible...as along as they turn from their sins, which renders all the verses valid.
1 Cor. 6:9-10 was a mistranslation of temple prostitutes, I believe.
Can't speak for the others since it's been a while since I last studied a bible.

[Industries (Ancient)]

I don't recognize that piece of paper legality to decide what is right or not .

Doesn't change the fact that it's still a legally binding piece of paper, and one of the most comprehensive pieces of legislation in terms of human rights ever written.

If you want to live in a world where the freedom to vote, think, speak, love or live as you please is open to arbitrary restrictions, be my guest. I for one like knowing that there's legally binding documents that explicitly say I can't be killed because of my religion, ethnicity, ideology or sexual orientation, and that I have the right to oppose my own government and any political or religious faction that would rather see me dead than living happily.

I don't think so .

I don't think christians want to kill gays just because they are against LGBT Rights .

[Scholencia]

I am to lazy to read the whole declaration. Just show the important parts. The Europeqn court has certainly read the UN documents and there is not such thing that gay mar. are human.right. The judges were rational.

The right of men and women of marriageable age to marry and to found a family shall be recognized.

Nowhere does it say 1 man and 1 woman.

Haha there is no say that 1 man and 1 man of marriagble age are to marry. You just quotet the opposite what you said. Yet the document clearly says marriagble woman and man.

In other word homo marriages are not right. The european court confirmsvthat.